Yoda versus Dumbledore (the Force versus Hogwarts magic)

Started by EmperorSidious248 pages
Originally posted by Nibedicus
http://youtu.be/xUlqDMcS_RE

Thank you for that video but not what I asked for I already know he has powerful displays of telekinesis but I'm asking for when Yoda takes someone's lightsaber out of their hands. This video did not show that. But thanks for trying.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Water spell or firestorm used by dumbledore in order of the Phoenix and half blood prince both long range and unblockable

Yoda pulls him into them, using his spells against him.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Yoda doesn't need to tk the wand.

Dumbledore won't be able to cast any spells if he's being flung around like a ragdoll.

Heck might take like one or two flings to KO him as fitter humans have been one shot with a force push.

True, I'm just amused at his demands that I show clips of Yoda using a specific tactic in battle, yet his entire argument has been based on Dumbledore using tactics and spells that Dumbles has never once used in or out of battle.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Thank you for that video but not what I asked for I already know he has powerful displays of telekinesis but I'm asking for when Yoda takes someone's lightsaber out of their hands. This video did not show that. But thanks for trying.

Pls reread what the claim that you replied to was.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Yoda pulls him into them, using his spells against him.

So they both get engulfed by it? Wouldn't Yoda be to concerned about the wave hitting him and sense it's so close I don't beleive Yoda would have the time to move out of the way. And with that I believe dumbledore would then drown him.

Originally posted by Silent Master
True, I'm just amused at his demands that I show clips of Yoda using a specific tactic in battle, yet his entire argument has been based on Dumbledore using tactics and spells that Dumbles has never once used in or out of battle.

Well I'm doing this because you demand specific clips of dumbledore using certain spells see I used yourself against you.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Pls reread what the claim that you replied to was.

I did and my request was very specific. I didn't ask for a showing of his telekinesis in general I wanted a clip from the movie showing Yoda taking someone's lightsaber through the force. From the movies and no where else.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
So they both get engulfed by it? Wouldn't Yoda be to concerned about the wave hitting him and sense it's so close I don't beleive Yoda would have the time to move out of the way. And with that I believe dumbledore would then drown him.

Nope, while long range, they still needed time to get to their target. Time Dumbledore won't have.

Also, Dumbledore used water that already existed in the battlefield against Voldemort.

Featureless environment as per forum rules won't have water fountains to manipulate.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Nope, while long range, they still needed time to get to their target. Time Dumbledore won't have.
So dumbledore does not have 1-3 seconds. I would beleive he does as Yoda is about to get engulfed in a ball of water and Yoda would look and stare and by the time he raises his hands water is already upon him

Also, Dumbledore used water that already existed in the battlefield against Voldemort.

Featureless environment as per forum rules won't have water fountains to manipulate.

Ok is there a place like speciffacly I can go and look at the official rules. This is my first real debate so I'm not sure how all this stuff works per forum rules. Also he can create water so I wouldn't say it's hard for him to launch a jet of water at Yoda and he get like sorta overwhelmed and then make enough to engulf him in Yoda sized bubble. Also what about the spells used by mcgonagall in deathly hollows part 2 against snape

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Well I'm doing this because you demand specific clips of dumbledore using certain spells see I used yourself against you.

Difference is that Yoda has used tk in battle multiple times, Dumbledore has never used the spells you were claiming he would.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
I did and my request was very specific. I didn't ask for a showing of his telekinesis in general I wanted a clip from the movie showing Yoda taking someone's lightsaber through the force. From the movies and no where else.

Reread.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Thank you for that video but not what I asked for I already know he has powerful displays of telekinesis but I'm asking for when Yoda takes someone's lightsaber out of their hands. This video did not show that. But thanks for trying.

THIS is what you replied to with the above:

Originally posted by Silent Master
I can show multiple feats of Yoda using tk in battle, including summoning his lightsaber and flinging people around,

so this idea that he can't tk Dumbles wand is laughable.

^--- this is a belief, not a claim.

Thus I showed him performing TK attacks. As no one made the claim that Yoda has TK'd weapons/wands away from ppl. Just that the chance of it happening is entirely plausible.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
But thanks for trying.

And this just makes you sound both arrogant and stupid. Congrats!

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Reread.

THIS is what you replied to with the above:

^--- this is a belief, not a claim.

Thus I showed him performing TK attacks. As no one made the claim that Yoda has TK'd weapons/wands away from ppl. Just that the chance of it happening is entirely plausible.

That was retaliation for him telling me Dumbledore couldn't use any of the spells not seen used by him in the movies when he actually can use abilities not seen used by him in the movies. So yes I know it's compltey plausible I'm just retaliating and the way you both feel towards me about that is the same way i feel toward him about that

And this just makes you sound both arrogant and stupid. Congrats!


Arrogant yes stupid not really

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Arrogant yes stupid not really

I'm sure in your head, you certainly think so.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
I'm sure in your head, you certainly think so.

Yes possibly who knows. I guess I know but that's not the topic at hand. Where is there a place to find the official rules of this forum so I know how to debat properly

Ok you know what before anyone does anything before Yoda even has a chance to do anything dumbledore turns Yoda into a ferret

Yeah, again, ignoring the fact that YODA IS MUCH FASTER YOU GODDAMN DIPSHIT

I would give a shit if Yoda could react and get to him within that time frame and see

They both enter ring dumbledore has already though I got shit I need to do I can't just stand here all day.

So he goes in there and with the 1 second flick of his wrist the grandmaster of the Jedi order is now a ferret

Because Yoda isn't going to think the same thing, right, objectivity

So he goes in there and with the 1 second flick of his wrist the grandmaster of the Jedi order is now a ferret

In the opening second Dumbledore's cut apart Raiden style

Hey look at me I can script too

Have fun moving a muscle before Yoda speedblitzes him

Originally posted by StealthRanger
Because Yoda isn't going to think the same thing, right, objectivity

We'll see Yoda just sits there in his mediation room all day farting and mediating and getting slower with his force abilities and even basic shit is hard for this guy I mean look at him vs dooku the very first move this guy is struggling maybe he should stop farting and get his act together but unfortunately it's to late as he is a ferret forevermore

In the opening second Dumbledore's cut apart Raiden style

See like I said that would interest me if Yoda could cover 500 meters in the time it takes for dumbledore to turn he is small self into a ferret

Hey look at me I can script too
Cool but Yoda still gets turned into a ferret

Have fun moving a muscle before Yoda speedblitzes him

Well he actually will be able to move several as per the films Yoda isn't as fast but I'm not getting into that I'm sticking with this 500 meters. Yoda can't cover that in the amount of time dumbledore needs you dumby. Dumbledore would just flick his wrist and yodas a ferret and dumbledore is going back to handle his business

If you want to go with the .5 kilometer starting distance, By all means post examples of Dumbledore being able to hit targets that are .5 kilometers away