Frank kills the DCU (for real)

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
It has nothing to do with willpower if you're a masocist, that example does not apply to Frank, terrible reasoning he does what he does because he thinks it right not because its "fun". Eating shit doesnt take willpower if you already like it.

Im bettng you dont do surgery on yourself on a regular basis.

Based on the fcat that if characters with superpowers has the same powerset is Frank that would not be able to do what he does (savage beating does surgery on himself regularly).

The fact of the matter isn't whether Frank is a masochist or not, it's that willpower and pain threshold are not necessarily related.

Plenty of people can take a punch to the face much more easily than they can go a day without a cigarette. The former is pain threshold. The latter is willpower.

Two distinct attributes.

Originally posted by SuperiorTech
You gonna give me some example's of these feat's of will power I honestly want to know.

Well his bio states that he does surgery on himself on a regular basis.

You seen where he gets the crap beaten out of him by the Russian but still kept going. Alot of other heroes eventhough they have superhuman durability couldnt take that crap.

Im giving the example as well that he has no qualms in taking his life to destroy his enemy, alot of other characters would be hesistant about this, but he would feel no way about it.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
You seen where he gets the crap beaten out of him by the Russian but still kept going. Alot of other heroes eventhough they have superhuman durability couldnt take that crap.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone

Im giving the example as well that he has no qualms in taking his life to destroy his enemy, alot of other characters would be hesistant about this, but he would feel no way about it.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot

Lack of value for one's life doesn't imply willpower. Unless you think suicide bombers are incredibly strong willed people, and not just stupid desperate gullible kids.

Originally posted by Soljer
The fact of the matter isn't whether Frank is a masochist or not, it's that willpower and pain threshold are not necessarily related.

That depends.

Originally posted by Soljer

Plenty of people can take a punch to the face much more easily than they can go a day without a cigarette. The former is pain threshold. The latter is willpower.

Two distinct attributes.

Originally posted by Soljer
Pain Threshold != Willpower.

That does not apply to doing surgery on yourself. Alot of people could not do this because of the pain, so in this case it takes willpower.

again...

Originally posted by Phantom Zone

2. your assuming that all people that kill themselves arent doing it because they believe they are doing the right thing and it takes alot of guts to do it. you might not value your life but that doesnt mean you gut the guts to blow yuourself up and put yourself through intense pain.

So the post doesnt neccesarily prove anything.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone

Alot of people could not do this because of the pain.

Are you illiterate?

Pain Threshold != Willpower.

Originally posted by Soljer
Are you illiterate?

Pain Threshold != Willpower.

Does doing surgery on yourself acquire alot of willpower of it hurts....ALOT? 🤨

Im not sure what != means anyway.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
doing surgery on yourself hurts....ALOT?

Originally posted by Soljer
Are you illiterate?

Pain Threshold != Willpower.

Answer the question.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Does doing surgery on yourself acquire alot of willpower of it hurts....ALOT? 🤨

Im not sure what != means anyway.

Thanos has better willpower than Frank by infinite fold... so I can't see why we're attributing Frank as having one of the greatest willpowers eva!

Cap... has willpower. Magneto has willpower. Doom has willpower. Surfer has willpower.

Frank does teh sergery on himself!!!! he awsome! He weigh better than the resters!

1. What question?

How would performing surgery acquire any amount of willpower?

2. Answer my question.

Originally posted by Soljer
Are you illiterate?

Pain Threshold != Willpower.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Thanos has better willpower than Frank by infinite fold... so I can't see why we're attributing Frank as having one of the greatest willpowers eva!

Cap... has willpower. Magneto has willpower. Doom has willpower. Surfer has willpower.

Frank does teh sergery on himself!!!! he awsome! He weigh better than the resters!

Those guys have powers Frank hasnt you missed the point...again. Cap has SSS that can help him with his pain threshold Frank doesnt. dur

Originally posted by Soljer
1. What question?

How would performing surgery acquire any amount of willpower?

2. Answer my question.

Anyway im off and im not responding to your post until you answer my question.

Powers have nothing to do with willpower. And these guys actually have feats that say "Through force of will, Magneto fights through X's attacks.".

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Emo's have amazing willpower as well then. 🙂

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Thanos has better willpower than Frank by infinite fold... so I can't see why we're attributing Frank as having one of the greatest willpowers eva!

Cap... has willpower. Magneto has willpower. Doom has willpower. Surfer has willpower.

Frank does teh sergery on himself!!!! he awsome! He weigh better than the resters!

Lets list the people with more willpower than Frank!

Captain America
Batman
Superman
Silver Surfer
Thanos
Doom
Magneto
Hal
Kyle
Guy
John
Kilowog
Sodam Yat (Even if Bran hates him. 🙁 )
Deadpool
Cable
Wolverine
Black Adam
Doc Strange
Colossus
Thing
Mon-El
Peter Parker
Namor
Wally West
Ray Palmer

And guess what? Despite all of these characters having more willpower than "TEH FRANK CASTLE DAT DUZ TEH SURGRIEZ!" half of them would ALSO make piss-poor lanterns.

Originally posted by Soljer
Lets list the people with more willpower than Frank!

Captain America
Batman
Superman
Silver Surfer
Thanos
Doom
Magneto
Hal
Kyle
Guy
John
Kilowog
Sodam Yat (Even if Bran hates him. 🙁 )
Deadpool
Cable
Wolverine
Black Adam
Doc Strange
Colossus
Thing
Mon-El
Peter Parker
Namor
Wally West
Ray Palmer

And guess what? Despite all of these characters having more willpower than "TEH FRANK CASTLE DAT DUZ TEH SURGRIEZ!" half of them would ALSO make piss-poor lanterns.

you missed the point alot of those poeple have superhuman powers Frank doesnt. If they didnt have powers would they be able to do what he does...get it?

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Powers have nothing to do with willpower. And these guys actually have feats that say "Through force of [b]will, Magneto fights through X's attacks.".

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Emo's have amazing willpower as well then. 🙂 [/B]

That could be explaine by the fcat that he can use magnetism to affect telepathy. 😬

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
you missed the point alot of those poeple have superhuman powers Frank doesnt. If they didnt have powers would they be able to do what he does...get it?

What he does? What? Shoot people? Sure.

Take a hit? Sure.

Collect lots of ignorant fanboys?

Well...you might just have me there. I dunno if they'd manage.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
That could be explaine by the fcat that he can use magnetism to affect telepathy. 😬

Except it isn't.

It's explained via willpower.

🙂.

Originally posted by Soljer
I cant make a rebutt so i'll just troll instead

Originally posted by Soljer
Except it isn't.

It's explained via willpower.

🙂.

Prove it show me the scan. Hell even if it is thats doesnt mean that they're arent people with stronger will power than him I dindt say he has the best will power I said he has one of the best, they're are alot of superheroes and hes at the top.

I don't see where I posted that. *looks*

Nope, nowhere.

You asked a question, and I answered it. Would the people I mentioned be able to do what Frank does?

As far as willpower goes? Without a seconds doubt.

Frank does have a lot of willpower, read the first fight between him and Barracuda in MAX Punisher.