Originally posted by Pyron_is_God
..............................................................You have proven once and for all you do not read my posts.
Not ONCE in that post I quoted again did I mention Andromeda.
Yet you answered it?
WTF?
its incredibly relevent because the way he tralks about Makai is similiar to Andromeda, the look and picture is all the same, the whole line of this argument is around him being Andromeda size which is a broken claim by you, the fact remains, he is simply thinking about it, end of argument, also it makes sense he is not in Makai, otherwise considering his size he would of wiped out that planet
imo, it depends on who strikes first.
both are immortal but shinnok is considerably more powerful. mk has a poor and inconsistent level of feats by it's characters but, it can be assessed by shinnoks' greatest feats that he is indeed a badass.
kain is bonifide, and can only be killed by the reaver blade, which he holds.
if shinnok manages to separate the reaver from kain. kain is in trouble that is, if shinnok figures out that important tid bit.
(i believe any one can wield the physical reaver)
as rule of thumb, any "vs topic" can be resolved by k.o. when a clear victor needs to be determined.
as such i can see that going either way but, more in shinnoks favor.
if kain manages to get close enough, which isn't as hard as some may think (given his impressive powers), he could use the reaver on shinnok.
i think for the sake of the fight, shinnok would have a soul to devour. why not? i did it for my "raziel and kratos vs olympus gods" topic.
my final assessment.
shinnok 6/10
kains' still the badder mofo. 😮💨
Originally posted by Pyron_is_God
If Raziel wielded the Reaver he could have kicked Kain's ass.
He was invincible with it.
I never quite understood that. Maybe it had somethign to do with time wouldn't let him be harmed.
the games' time-line is all kinds of crazy.
the quantum physics get a little fuzzy. especially when raziel kills himself. i guess the universe doesn't implode after all. but, it's all theory anyways.
it's kinda like the movie "southland" only it makes a little more sense and it doesn't have the rock.
man, can you imagine raziel and the rock?
it would be like "back to the future" meets the "scorpion king," and "ghostbusters."
i'd watch it.
I would think it has a greater chance of killing Kain now that it's a soul-devourering blade. Raziel had spiritual immortality in his soul can not be destroyed. Kain is immortal because his body is supposedly indestructible and his soul will be always trapped in him. So, now that the blade devours souls, it can bypass his physical immortality and get at his vulnerable soul.
Originally posted by Pyron_is_God
I would think it has a greater chance of killing Kain now that it's a soul-devourering blade. Raziel had spiritual immortality in his soul can not be destroyed. Kain is immortal because his body is supposedly indestructible and his soul will be always trapped in him. So, now that the blade devours souls, it can bypass his physical immortality and get at his vulnerable soul.
exactly...
All this about the reaver killing Kain, heres the big "oops" to anyone who thinks so
the ONLY reason anyone thought kain could be defeatd by the reaver or Raziel is because of the fact they thought he was the vampire champ destined to fall to the hylden champ when Raziel was infact both, Kain is neither, meaning Kain is unkillable, also its unkown if Kain sitll has a soul OR if he does, if it is indeed touchable, since the heart of darkness was supposed to be the thing giving him his vampiric unlife, and holding his soul to the corpse, without it, kain "should" of died, but ofc he cannot, so he did not.
yet Kain is not dead, nothing would allow Kain to die permanently, he was always destined, also show me this about Raziel going to kill Kain...since time is immutable, something would always allow kain to survive
also how would stabbing Kain with the reaver kill him? his heart (soul and basically excistence keeping his corpse alive) ripped out is just as bad
A. Time was ****ed up in SR2. Kain was supposed to die and Raziel was supposed to be absorbed by the Reaver. Neither happened. Time can be changed with enough effort, the edge of the coin or the introduction of paradoxes like multiple versions of the Reaver in one room at one time.
B. The Soul Reaver eats your soul. It's Kain's soul that is vulnerable with his body being invulnerable to a degree.
A: time is immutable, do you want me to show you the official developer questions and answers page where it says time IS IMMUTABLE meaning kain never was really going to die, also Kain HAS never been properly killed, it doesnt matter if he was apprently according to you "going to"
B: prove this, its not Kains soul thats vulerable, his body is indeed invulerable, since it doesnt matter, its his soul that does, but his soul seems damn untouchable to with the Heart of darkness, its main link to the body ripped out