Illuminati vs. Authority

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Illuminati vs. Authority

Two versions.
With infinity Gems
With out Infinity Gems

And its Authority team from volume 1 #1

Then the Illuminati in a curbstomp, in either scenario.

Vol. 1 Issue #1, it was Jenny Sparks (not Quantum) and The Doctor had never used his powers on a large scale. The first time he did so, he passed out. With the big guns non-factors, The Authority might put up a fight (it would need to be in a city for them to have a prayer at that point) but that's about it.

Indeed - this is a bit unfair.

If we consider the team from the original Authority, but also consider the later showings of power....

I'd say the Doctor'd have a good chance of solo'ing(without the infinity gems), considering how big a punk Strange acts these days.

What Soljer said, but it would need to be current Doctor, or at least later in Jeroen's run.

Get past Strange and no one really has the kind of defense to avoid getting turned into dice by the Doctor. But again, Issue #1 Doctor wouldn't be able to handle it.

Strange is the big problem but if we used crappy Strange it might go different.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Then the Illuminati in a curbstomp, in either scenario.

Vol. 1 Issue #1, it was Jenny Sparks (not Quantum) and The Doctor had never used his powers on a large scale. The first time he did so, he passed out. With the big guns non-factors, The Authority might put up a fight (it would need to be in a city for them to have a prayer at that point) but that's about it.

You miss understood, feats are not restricted to issue 1, of Authority.

Its simply the character line up, as it was introduced in v1 #1 in Authority.

So basically the Doctor vs Illuminati

50/50 split without

Illuminati stomp with if they can use the gems with any sort of effectiveness.

With the gems, the Illuminati definitely wins. Without them, I'm not sure. I would probably give the win to the Authority. Strange would definitely be the problem, but I'm not sure he can cast a good enough protection spell faster than the Doctor could severely harm the team.

Originally posted by id369
You miss understood, feats are not restricted to issue 1, of Authority.

Its simply the character line up, as it was introduced in v1 #1 in Authority.

Oh.

Well then. That changes things.

As with most team fights, it would come down to the big guns. If the Doctor could beat Strange, that's ballgame. Or vice versa.

Put it in a city and I like the Authority's chances, because MNer/Angie > Panther/Tony, Jack (in city)/Apollo would be roughly equal to maybe Namor/BB, Jenny could shut down Xavier's brain function, etc.

With gems, obviously a different fight.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Oh.

Well then. That changes things.

As with most team fights, it would come down to the big guns. If the Doctor could beat Strange, that's ballgame. Or vice versa.

Put it in a city and I like the Authority's chances, because MNer/Angie > Panther/Tony, Jack (in city)/Apollo would be roughly equal to maybe Namor/BB, Jenny could shut down Xavier's brain function, etc.

With gems, obviously a different fight.

I wouldn't say that Jack and Apollo could take Namor and Black Bolt.

I would, however, be confident in saying that the Doctor could kick the shit out of current Strange, and that Jack and Apollo would be able to hold off Namor and Black Bolt for long enough for Jeroen to solo everyone else.

Originally posted by Soljer
I'd say the Doctor'd have a good chance of solo'ing(without the infinity gems), considering how big a punk Strange acts these days.
I never really followed the Authority..

What makes the Doctor such a badass?

Originally posted by Soljer
I wouldn't say that Jack and Apollo could take Namor and Black Bolt.

I would, however, be confident in saying that the Doctor could kick the shit out of current Strange, and that Jack and Apollo would be able to hold off Namor and Black Bolt for long enough for Jeroen to solo everyone else.

Fair enough. My logic was Namor < Jack (in city) < Apollo < BB ....so I made them equal for the fight's purposes.

Originally posted by Galan007
I never really followed the Authority..

What makes the Doctor such a badass?

Lots of things. Check out his respect thread for the details, or any of my tourney matches ( 😉 ). Basically, he has more powers than Jesus (actually, it's true in WS continuity because Jesus was a former "Doctor"😉 and top-shelf matter manipulation skills, so most of his enemies end up transmuted into hippie imagery.

Originally posted by Galan007
I never really followed the Authority..

What makes the Doctor such a badass?

In short, I'll ask you to look at the respect thread.

It's a cop out answer, sure...but if I were to tell you, I'd pretty much just be reciting the thread anyways, and I'm sure whatever I could say has already been said there - likely in a more eloquent fashion, and with scans.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Lots of things. Check out his respect thread for the details, or any of my tourney matches ( 😉 ). Basically, he has more powers than Jesus (actually, it's true in WS continuity because Jesus was a former "Doctor"😉 and top-shelf matter manipulation skills, so most of his enemies end up transmuted into hippie imagery.
Jesus? That's great! 😂

I saw a scan where someone was blown to pieces, but pulled himself back together in an instant, and made some sort of cheeky comment. A badass instance, iirc.

Wasn't that the Doctor?

Originally posted by Galan007
Jesus? That's great! 😂

I saw a scan where someone was blown to pieces, but pulled himself back together in an instant, and made some sort of cheeky comment. A badass instance, iirc.

Wasn't that the Doctor?

That was an ex-Doctor who recived the Doctor's powers temporarily.

Jack in a desent sized city beats Namor most probably. Namor has the advantage of flight, but Jack is incredibly agile and (the ability some people tend to forget) can draw power from the city to increase his physical stats like he did against Regis.
Though the best he can hope against Black Bolt is not getting killed...but if he keeps himself merged and distracts BB long enough for Doctor to transmute him in a scared puppy...

Originally posted by Galan007
Jesus? That's great! 😂

I saw a scan where someone was blown to pieces, but pulled himself back together in an instant, and made some sort of cheeky comment. A badass instance, iirc.

Wasn't that the Doctor?

As Erik pointed out...

Kind of.

It was one of the Authority's enemies after he was given Jeroen's powers.

Cool beans.

Thanks all! 😄

Originally posted by Galan007
Cool beans.

Thanks all! 😄

A pleasure. 🙂.

Illuminati destroy em with the gems

2nd fight...either way