Originally posted by Soljer
I can see where your logic comes from, but it's inherently flawed. The 'generational' nature of Doctors points towards an additive process, rather than a multiplicative one.
Originally posted by King Kandy
Yeah, but each Doctor has the power of all his ancestors. Therefore, adding one more Doctor is the same as adding all the Doctors before him, therefore doubling it.
No, because there's overlap. If you have Jesus and Jeroen, then he dies and Habib inherits their memories, he inherits Jeroen and Jesus, not Jeroen/Jesus/Jesus. Besides, the quotes refer to memories and experience, not a power increase. They increase in power because their knowledge increases, not because of your mutiplicative theory.
It's not without merit, I just don't think there's enough to justify it as plausible. And if there were, I'd be all over it.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
No, because there's overlap. If you have Jesus and Jeroen, then he dies and Habib inherits their memories, he inherits Jeroen and Jesus, not Jeroen/Jesus/Jesus.
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The Second Doctor has the powers of all previous Doctors, so he also has "1".
Then when the third Doctor comes along, he gets the powers of both of the previous Doctors, giving him a power of 2.
Then the fourth Doctor comes along, and he gets the powers of all previous Doctors. 1+1+2=4, so he has a power of 4, double what the previous Doctor had. So on and so on.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Besides, the quotes refer to memories and experience, not a power increase. They increase in power because their knowledge increases, not because of your mutiplicative theory.It's not without merit, I just don't think there's enough to justify it as plausible. And if there were, I'd be all over it.
I understand your math, but we're going to have to remain in disagreement. In your scenario, let's say Jesus was your "1" ..."3" would get Jesus' power twice. Again, it makes more sense that it's additive, not multiplicative. So if there's been 20 Doctors, he'd be 20x the first one.
But it's cool if you disagree. It's a semantic point anyway. Additive or multiplicative, he's still just a beast. I just don't think there's enough corroborating evidence from the comics to support it.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
I understand your math, but we're going to have to remain in disagreement. In your scenario, let's say Jesus was your "1" ..."3" would get Jesus' power twice.
Originally posted by DigiMark007
Again, it makes more sense that it's additive, not multiplicative. So if there's been 20 Doctors, he'd be 20x the first one.
And "not displaying powers outside urban environments"- his powers are augumented physical stats+urbanopathy (control over cities). Without urbanopathy he's left with...well,augumented physical stats aka H2H. In any non-urban\pseudourban(Carrier) setting H2H is the only thing he has.
That couple of scans just shows that those augumented stats don't instantly fade when he's taken out of city.
Seriously, go read respect thread for a buddy. And BTW, one of Coruscant options for Jack- has city lessen gravity on Hulk (he has done that before on huge alien space station, BTW, so he can control some "weird" not Earth cities like urban environments), then draw power from the city to augument his stats (again, has done that before against Regis, and given that the bigger the city is, the more powerful Jack becomes, the powerup would be pretty nice) and just PWN huc via BFR. Simple solution of green nonsence.
Originally posted by Charlotte DeBelWhen I first saw you read you say your the master or whatever with Jack I had my doubts but you proved you are the girl to go to in this thread. 👆
And "not displaying powers outside urban environments"- his powers are augumented physical stats+urbanopathy (control over cities). Without urbanopathy he's left with...well,augumented physical stats aka H2H. In any non-urban\pseudourban(Carrier) setting H2H is the only thing he has.
That couple of scans just shows that those augumented stats don't instantly fade when he's taken out of city.Seriously, go read respect thread for a buddy. And BTW, one of Coruscant options for Jack- has city lessen gravity on Hulk (he has done that before on huge alien space station, BTW, so he can control some "weird" not Earth cities like urban environments), then draw power from the city to augument his stats (again, has done that before against Regis, and given that the bigger the city is, the more powerful Jack becomes, the powerup would be pretty nice) and just PWN huc via BFR. Simple solution of green nonsence.
Have just thought...lessening gravity on Hulk can probably leave him without leverage, so ridiculous "continent drowing step" becomes quite hard to perform...an opposite to sucking Hulk into concrete (and given stats of some things\creatures he has buried into concrete, just punching out of it is quite hard thing to perform even for uberhuc).
Lessening the gravity feat
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He can also do that on himself, and in NYsized city it almost grants him flight.
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Originally posted by Yowsa
When I first saw you read you say your the master or whatever with Jack I had my doubts but you proved you are the girl to go to in this thread. 👆
To say it in the modest way...Jack is one of the characters I know really well here. And one of those I enjoy debating for... I don't enjoy debating for the sake of debating, so I post relatively rarely here.
Or bury him into concrete. Or just blow him the f*ck up- small "renovation"....or not that small in Coruscant case.
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Given the future tech on Coruscant, Jack will have much more than "pathetic gaspipes" to pwn Huc.
no city could "destroy" Hulk, all that would happen is that you'd have one busted up city and one pissed off Worldbreaker.
Hulk literally jumped from one of Saraak's moons to the planet, enduring reentry and landing without the slightest problem, he's easily - without even the least bit of trouble - taken city destroying nukes on Sakaar... and this while he was actually weaker than usual and didn't have the healing on uber-fast.
essentially there's no way that Hawkesmoore can take down Hulk. just impossible.
Originally posted by janus77If this was WWH you might have a point but regular gets taken down.
no city could "destroy" Hulk, all that would happen is that you'd have one busted up city and one pissed off Worldbreaker.Hulk literally jumped from one of Saraak's moons to the planet, enduring reentry and landing without the slightest problem, he's easily - without even the least bit of trouble - taken city destroying nukes on Sakaar... and this while he was actually weaker than usual and didn't have the healing on uber-fast.
essentially there's no way that Hawkesmoore can take down Hulk. just impossible.
'grok you're typing again, stop it. makes you look like a fool. more so than you are anyway. well I hope.
Originally posted by Yowsa
If this was WWH you might have a point but regular gets taken down.
frankly there's no sane argument you can make against what I've said.
Blowing up a gasline is going to take out the Hulk? Concrete will stop the Hulk? 😂 stop you're killing me over here.
Given the futuristic tech on Coruscant it's only going to cause Hawksmoore more pain when Hulk trashes it and causes greater explosions which we know he can tank and regen from pretty quickly given his current level. Maybe the weak jobbers that Hawksmoore usually kills would be scared of a gas main blowing up in their face, but this is the big boys now.
But what's really funny about this whole thing, though, is that you know Hawksmoore can't beat Hulk even on Coruscant, thus he must BFR him and Hulk must now be reduced to standing still and knocked out by gas pipe level explosions (though I reckon Hulk could use a big bang level thunderclap to propel him into the ground and level Coruscant like he did the asteroid which was twice the size of the Earth, since one time showings are all the rage nowadays) and getting swallowed by....concrete.
Originally posted by janus77
no city could "destroy" Hulk, all that would happen is that you'd have one busted up city and one pissed off Worldbreaker.Hulk literally jumped from one of Saraak's moons to the planet, enduring reentry and landing without the slightest problem, he's easily - without even the least bit of trouble - taken city destroying nukes on Sakaar... and this while he was actually weaker than usual and didn't have the healing on uber-fast.
essentially there's no way that Hawkesmoore can take down Hulk. just impossible.
Exactly, all this Hawksmoore beat Hulk foolishness comes from the fan jerking the Authority receives on this board.
Yes yes yes, they do look rather stylish killing those jobbers, but nothing shows that (barring the reality manipulators on their teams) they're anything above mid-tier really.
What's funny is that these Hulk apparently loses to scrubs like the Authority started off as Hulk vs. Authority sans reality manipulators, then when people realised how one sided it was it became Hulk vs. Authority on Coruscant.
