Originally posted by Xzpunisher
Agreed Thanos is NOT a skyfather level beingSupes beating DS has always been pure PIS bullcrap
Like when he beat him and threw him into the source wallPure PIS
Supes was losing badly untill the sun amp....and he still needed to resort to the source wall so it wasn't really a true victory.
Originally posted by The Great Galen
You sure it was "10 times"his normal strength....oddly enough thor has knocked Thanos back under his normal strenght before, and Odin was not stalemated he just simply avoided the situation cause he didn't want to kill his own son. Supes probably couldn't solo the infinity watch without some amp like thor did....but the same could be said for a lot of peak heralds.
Yes. Warrior Madness increases Thor's strength tenfold. Amped by the Power Gem, its more than that.
Thor knocking Thanos back is not only a low showing, but its before Thanos' upgrade.
Odin & Thor were locked in a stalemate, grappling, before Odin decided he couldn't overpower Thor without killing him in the process. Pretty good strength, holding his own against THE premier skyfather.
Originally posted by The Great Galen
So are we just going to ingore DD's abilities then lol.
He doesn't adapt on the fly like THAT. And he doesn't adapt to physical harm. Superman was harming him with punches, etc, right up to the point where his arm was broken and he was hurled into the power generators for the planet they were fighting on (forget the name of it - starts with a C.)
Originally posted by fangirl101When did DD beat a skyfather?
Are you kidding me? Your case is sad. Thanos did not hold the edge. And there are some differences between H/P DD and Thor. for one. DD beat Skyfathers. Thor beat NONE. Thanos's shields cracked like tissue paper. He was using amped energy and still got punked into a wall. On top of that, Thor does not evolve on the fly and still felt pain. Something DD has over him.
Originally posted by fangirl101How is stayne above top tiers? How?
. Orion, Was able to contain UNIVERSAL destroying energies. And he has been bitched so many times by DS. So how the hell is Pre-DOTNG DS not skyfather?DS created stayne who is so far above the top tier it isn't funny. Out of his own power. He's one shotted the uber trans tiered EASG. He Pwned Jimmy with the combined might of thousands of New Gods. He also Beat Cyborg Superman and then held him captive. Something not even the Source Wall could completely do. And DD resurrected from Pure Omega Beams and then Beat DS. Yes DD beat a skyfather. Thor did not.
Ds owned the inexperienced olsen right after he couldnt put superman down on his own. Ds defeated cyborg. Ok,and?
Originally posted by XzpunisherDarkseid backed down from Doomsday and swore steppenwulf to secrecy.
That was an avatar of Darkseid that Doomsday pwnedA few hundred thousand years ago Darkseid met DD and could have killed him with the OE but wanted to fight him hand to hand instead
The fight never took place because the planet was about to blow
Originally posted by The Great GalenThanos is well above Darkseid. Well above.
No one really has...well cept supes that one time. Anyhow Thor wasn't tapping anywhere near the energy he could have and Thanos being skyfather is to generous IMO.
Originally posted by XzpunisherWhat does it matter if strange is a joke now if he wasnt back then. The surfer was also there. LOL.
To be honest beating the IW isn't that impressive
Especially if its current Adam Warlock and DraxAlthough Classic Adam Warlock was a freakin beast
And Strange is a joke now
Originally posted by XzpunisherNo,it really hasnt been. The have been mentioned and treated as peers how many times now. You calling pis is you trying to ignore certain showings while highlighting only certain showings.
Agreed Thanos is NOT a skyfather level beingSupes beating DS has always been pure PIS bullcrap
Like when he beat him and threw him into the source wallPure PIS
Originally posted by The Great GalenIt was a victory with aid.
Supes was losing badly untill the sun amp....and he still needed to resort to the source wall so it wasn't really a true victory.
Originally posted by The Great GalenThanos has other abilities besides physical strength which I dispute. He can erect shields,encase him in pure force block,bfr,etc.
Holding his own becase Odin wanted to, Supes has stalemated the Zeal or something like that whom is also a skyfather level being as well in a strength contest. Anyhow no one is disputing the high level of strength Thanos has, but IMO I just see H/P Doomsday being>Thanos in strength.
Originally posted by The Great GalenThanos can kill him physically as well.
Stomp, thanos would put up a fight but it would be pretty one-sided with DD adapting at the pace of every strike thrown...DD is basically custom made to nulify physical attacks altogether. Short out a BFR...Thanos doesn't have a chance.
Originally posted by quanchi112
When did DD beat a skyfather? How is stayne above top tiers? How?Ds owned the inexperienced olsen right after he couldnt put superman down on his own. Ds defeated cyborg. Ok,and?
Stayne=Takion
Flash and Kyle are top tiers.
Captain Atom is herald lvl.
Takion reversed the sources energy.
As if your opinion on New Gods matters. It doesn't.
Thanos is certainly a Skyfather level being. Pre Crisis DS was but Post DS certainly wasn't. He would lose to heralds like Superman, DD and also lost to Orion 2 times. Thanos doesn't lose to heralds |v| at all while DS does. Now DS is protrayed again to Skyfather levels. However, make no mistake Thanos wins this match so many ways it's not even funny. DD has been killed by physical harm and can be again. Superman did it and imo Thanos is higher on the food chain then supes. He doesn't even need to go h2h though he can win any number of ways.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Thanos is certainly a Skyfather level being. Pre Crisis DS was but Post DS certainly wasn't. He would lose to heralds like Superman, DD and also lost to Orion 2 times. Thanos doesn't lose to heralds |v| at all while DS does. Now DS is protrayed again to Skyfather levels. However, make no mistake Thanos wins this match so many ways it's not even funny. DD has been killed by physical harm and can be again. Superman did it and imo Thanos is higher on the food chain then supes. He doesn't even need to go h2h though he can win any number of ways.
Prove this.
He doesn't lose to herald level being like DS or DD. When you fight multiple heroes at once some of who are herald |v| with little issue your clearly above them. When you don't lose to peak herald |v|'s clearly your far surpass them. When you almost kill THE peak herald in SS in 6 punches that explains where you are pre upgrade. When you were already at least herald level or trans before your resurrected by death and upgraded clearly you've moved higher up on the food chain. When you can blast Galactus who is well above skyfather through his ship and send him flying 100's of feet clearly your well above herald |v|. When you battle a PG WM Thor and get the better of the fight with somebody who is clearly beyond peak herald |v| and in the Trans or skyfather area clearly that puts you on a certain pedestal. When you battle THE peak skyfather level being to a stalemate when he's out for the kill clearly your in the skyfather range. Yes Odin was getting the better of the fight but at the end of the day Odin said he hasn't battled anybody of Thanos level for sometime and saluted Thanos. Thanos didn't yield and was ready to continue the battle. How it would've gone nobody knows. However, he was able to hang with peak skyfather and has been upgraded since so where do you think that places him? When you face somebody like tyrant who is well beyond Skyfather level and has just punked a few peak heralds and mid high heralds with minimum effort and you hang with him and go toe to toe that place you in a certain category. Yes he had the orb but nobody knows how much he was drawing from it, and many would argue he's then added that power to his powerset. Not to mention the fact that again he was upgraded since then. Yes Tyrant would've won no doubt but he's clearly beyond skyfather |v| himself so where does that place Thanos. When you devise a plan with aid and beat the omega who again is clearly above skyfather and take his best shot that places you in a certain range. Good enough?