Now let's pick those pathetic arguments apart.
- DS has defeated skyfather level characters like Mordru and Highfather, and the rest of the DCU pantheon is afraid of him.
- Fighting several herald level characters is something Black Adam and Superman has done on several occasion, not to mention Doomsday.
- Almost killing SS in 2? Thor w/madness had him down 3 punches and Odin dropped him in a single one.
- It's possible to be upgraded as a high herald, and still not move out of the tier. Surfer did it recently. Debate using feats and not supposed upgrades.
- Blasting Galactus? I've addressed this so many times. GALACTUS IS BEYOND PHYSICAL HARM. It doesn't matter how much to chip off of his armour because he is unaffected by it. INVISIBLE WOMAN BLASTED A HOLY STRAIGHT THROUGH HIS CHEST, IS SHE A SKYFATHER?
- Nobody knows how it would've gone? Well here's a little hint for you. Thanos was struggling to stand up and hadn't laid a single scratch on Odin. The enchanters did more damage to Odin when they fought. Odin is not a "peak" skyfather, he is simply a skyfather. Surtur w/items is a peak skyfather.
- Tyrant has been her by characters below herald and Thanos was attacking Tyrant using part of Tyrant's technology. Not once did he use any part of his own powerset to injure Tyrant.
- When the Thanos (later retconned into a clone) used a plot device to incapacitate Odin, he acknowledges that Odin won the last time they fought.
Wow, I don't know whether to issue warnings for extreme fanboyism or send some special help for these poor souls. I've seen people distort what occurred in a comic to make a point but this is genuinely pathetic. Distorting feats and events to prop up on characters while downplaying and lowballing feats and events to diminish another character.....FAIL
There will be warnings and bans coming soon. So the few of you who continue to spew your fanboy induced posts have fun while it lasts....
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Now let's pick those pathetic arguments apart.- DS has defeated skyfather level characters like [b]Mordru and Highfather
, and the rest of the DCU pantheon is afraid of him.He cheapshotted Highfather correct? Yes he's lost to herald levelers like Superman and DD. I would even put orion in there because Orion certainly has distinguished himself by beating skyfather level beings or herald level being on the regular. Batkick for the win?
- Fighting several herald level characters is something Black Adam and Superman has done on several occasion, not to mention Doomsday.
This proves what exactly? That thanos has done the same thing and thus it could indicate him being higher then merely a herald? Thanks
- Almost killing SS in 2? Thor w/madness had him down 3 punches and Odin dropped him in a single one.
One Shotting isn't equal to almost killing him which was stated on panel. Fact is SS is peak herald and is utterly destroyed and wreak every single time. So, your saying this can't mean he's above Herald level? Thanks
- It's possible to be upgraded as a high herald, and still not move out of the tier. Surfer did it recently. Debate using feats and not supposed upgrades.
So, your concede that upgrades could also put you above herald level as well. Arguments work both ways. If he's clearly distinguished himself before upgrades and superior to peak heralds that to me means he's already above them and now with upgrades.. game set match.
- Blasting Galactus? I've addressed this so many times. GALACTUS IS BEYOND PHYSICAL HARM. It doesn't matter how much to chip off of his armour because he is unaffected by it. INVISIBLE WOMAN BLASTED A HOLY STRAIGHT THROUGH HIS CHEST, IS SHE A SKYFATHER?
Faulty logic. Invisible woman doesn't have the other feats against skyfathers and heralds that Thanos has. He not only blasted him for 100's of feet through a ship but also test him in a mental battle which Galactus did struggle with
- Nobody knows how it would've gone? Well here's a little hint for you. Thanos was struggling to stand up and hadn't laid a single scratch on Odin. The enchanters did more damage to Odin when they fought. Odin is not a "peak" skyfather, he is simply a skyfather. Surtur w/items is a peak skyfather.
Surtur with items is above skyfather which explains how weak your rating system is. Odin is concidered THE skyfather and peak skyfather by most. Because you want to have your argument suit your stance doesn't change the fact of how Odin is regarded. So, let me ask you this if Thanos hung with Odin and Odin was out for the kill and saluted Thanos. Could that not be an example of Thanos being skyfather level ish. Maybe not as high on the chain but couldn't that illustrate he's in that area. This was also pre upgrade as well.
- Tyrant has been her by characters below herald and Thanos was attacking Tyrant using part of Tyrant's technology. Not once did he use any part of his own powerset to injure Tyrant.
Do you know how much he wa using of the orb? Do you also believe he then absorb that orb later on which many contend? If so wouldn't that now be part of his powerset and what he's able to do against somebody well above skyfather level. Not to mention again an upgrade besides that lol.
- When the Thanos (later retconned into a clone) used a plot device to incapacitate Odin, he acknowledges that Odin won the last time they fought.
Odin never won he was winning. Your disputing that and saying he actually won the battle and had thanos out or dead?
Thanks for playing [/B]
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
That is how he's regarded by many from his feats and how he's done against others. Don't be mad DS losses to heralds while thanos punks them.
The day losing to Superman becomes a low feat, is the day comics ceases to be.
Now I believe you've already been warned, so I suggest you stop pushing before Raoul puts you in your place again.
Many people would place Superman Prime at skyfather level. Which skyfather level beings has he beaten? He didn't defeat any Guardians. He had help beating Mxy. He basically stalemated Monarch and was amped anyway.
Thanos tanked two blasts from Odin without flinching while walking through a third. One of those blasts one-shotted Surfer, who like Superman is peak herald.
I have no problems placing Prime at skyfather level. Just like I have no problems placing Thanos at skyfather level. Peak skyfather? No. But skyfather nonetheless.
Why is this a problem?
Originally posted by Enyalus
Many people would place Superman Prime at skyfather level. Which skyfather level beings has he beaten? He didn't defeat any Guardians. He had help beating Mxy. He basically stalemated Monarch and was amped anyway.Thanos tanked two blasts from Odin without flinching while walking through a third. One of those blasts one-shotted Surfer, who like Superman is peak herald.
I have no problems placing Prime at skyfather level. Just like I have no problems placing Thanos at skyfather level. Peak skyfather? No. But skyfather nonetheless.
Why is this a problem?
If you're serious about this, take it to the tier thread and make an official request to have Thanos moved off it.
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=447826&pagenumber=351#post11417398
Let the fireworks commence. 😄
Also, Prime is arguable for skyfather, save an extreme lack of versatility. Or did you miss the 'retcon-punch'? Or his punching out of the phantom zone?
Thanos has nothing on those feats.
Originally posted by Enyalus
Many people would place Superman Prime at skyfather level. Which skyfather level beings has he beaten? He didn't defeat any Guardians. He had help beating Mxy. He basically stalemated Monarch and was amped anyway.Thanos tanked two blasts from Odin without flinching while walking through a third. One of those blasts one-shotted Surfer, who like Superman is peak herald.
I have no problems placing Prime at skyfather level. Just like I have no problems placing Thanos at skyfather level. Peak skyfather? No. But skyfather nonetheless.
Why is this a problem?