Equality law could bar white men from jobs

Originally posted by KidRock
So should some black kids on the high school basketball team not be allowed on the team because there are too many already..and a white kid who isnt as good should be let on?

That was exactly my point. My coworker would have been the better choice because he played better. Some African Americans/Native Americans/<insert minorty label that is given a handicap in American here> work their asses off and earn EVERYTHING they get. I know that there is not perfect equality, but instead of giving out handicaps, give out taylored education to a particular group that is failing or failling behind.

Originally posted by KidRock
Or we shouldnt put black people in prison there are too many..we should let the white guys in instead..I kid, I kid.

holy shit, bro...you are going to hell.

Originally posted by dadudemon

holy shit, bro...you are going to hell.

It was a joke. Also that really wouldn't warrant someone going to hell lol.

Also answer me this..which race has the most individuals in prison right now in America? If you would answer it that would be great.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Indeed. That former young man's hopes and dreams were virtually shattered. Now he works in IT fixing computers...

The closest he gets to harmonizing is server clusters.

WTF... now you're a Yo-yo Ma could/should have been? Mormon, please.

You're in your early 20's, pick a a cello and play, fat-boy, play.

Originally posted by KidRock
It was a joke. Also that really wouldn't warrant someone going to hell lol.

"You are going to hell" is a saying around here when someone makes a low brow joke. I found it humorous in a "holy shit i can't believe he went there" way.

Originally posted by KidRock
Also answer me this..which race has the most individuals in prison right now in America? If you would answer it that would be great.

I assume you mean per capita...because that would get the point across that you are trying to make....racist. 😛

Here is one with nice statistical perspective. (I mean the math.)

http://www.lagriffedulion.f2s.com/prison.htm

Here is something a little more for the laymen:

" Nationwide, blacks are incarcerated at 8.2 times the rate of whites. That is, a black person is 8.2 times more likely to be in prison than a white person."

...

"Blacks are incarcerated nationally at a rate of 1,547 per 100,000 black residents. In some states, the black rate of incarceration reaches extraordinary levels (Table 3). In Alaska, Arizona, Connecticut, Delaware, Iowa, Oklahoma, Rhode Island, Texas, Wisconsin and the District of Columbia, blacks are incarcerated at rates that exceed 2,000 per 100,000. The lowest incarceration rate for blacks, 570 in North Dakota, exceeds the highest rate for whites, 440 in Arizona."

"Because of their extraordinary rate of incarceration, one in every 20 black men over the age of 18 is in a state or federal prison, compared to one in every 180 whites. In certain states, the incarceration of black men reaches devastating levels: in Oklahoma and Iowa one in every thirteen black men is in state prison; in Rhode Island, Texas and Wisconsin, the figure is one in every fourteen."

That is a hard pill to swallow, imo. Why is it so high?

I didn't think it was that bad. That shows how naive I am. Now I understand the racist jokes about incarceration from both races. (Seriously, I was that naive.)

http://www.hrw.org/reports/2000/usa/Rcedrg00-01.htm

Here are some links to some tables

http://www.hrw.org/reports/2000/usa/Table6.pdf

And here it is by ratio:

http://www.hrw.org/reports/2000/usa/Table5.pdf

However, I want it to be by ALL races.

Originally posted by KidRock
So should some black kids on the high school basketball team not be allowed on the team because there are too many already..and a white kid who isnt as good should be let on?

Or we shouldnt put black people in prison there are too many..we should let the white guys in instead..I kid, I kid.

At my highschool, we sponsored white, slavic exchange students because they could play basketball and were 7 feet tall. They weren't even Catholics, they just fit the bill of the parent's community-based desire to have bragging rights.

Originally posted by Robtard
WTF... now you're a Yo-yo Ma could/should have been? Mormon, please.

You're in your early 20's, pick a a cello and play, fat-boy, play.

What are you talking about? I am in NO WAY a cello player. This is someone else. Since I work in IT, it stands to reason that my coworker would also work in IT. Did you get that?

I am so confused.

Also, I used the word "virtually" because he could have pursued his dream of playing the cello for a philharmonic/symphony orchestra IF he really tried. He actually compiles his own music now...it is kind of like 311s music.

Originally posted by dadudemon
What are you talking about? I am in NO WAY a cello player. This is someone else. Since I work in IT, it stands to reason that my coworker would also work in IT. Did you get that?

I am so confused.

Also, I used the word "virtually" because he could have pursued his dream of playing the cello for a philharmonic/symphony orchestra IF he really tried. He actually compiles his own music now...it is kind of like 311s music.

Hence the question mark.

I was being on the accusatory side though, as you've claimed outlandish "feats" before, my error, this time.

Edit: Isn't that what C3PO said, "I'm so confused", if so, you just quoted a gay-robot, homosexual

Originally posted by KidRock
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=536050&in_page_id=1770&in_page_id=1770&expand=true#StartComments

White men could be legally blocked from getting jobs under new anti-discrimination laws being considered by Labour.

Damn when will the white man stop holding the brothas down.

Originally posted by Robtard
Hence the question mark.

Yeah, you can't pull that one. Adding a question mark to the end of a verbally abusive statement that is intended as a rhetorical question for the entertainment of others at my expense, is NOT a literal question. Also, the remainder of your post does not allude to the plausibility that your first sentence was a genuine question from the perspective of ignorance seeking enlightenment.

Ergo, your attempt to relegate your incorrect assertion of a verbally abusive, yet genuine question, fails.

Originally posted by Robtard
I was being on the accusatory side though, as you've claimed outlandish "feats" before, my error, this time.

Name those "outlandish 'feats'".

Originally posted by Robtard
Edit: Isn't that what C3PO said, "I'm so confused", if so, you just quoted a gay-robot, homosexual

Yes, he said it.

No, I did not quote him.

Did you see any quotation marks on my part? Given the large quantity of spoken and written words, the probability that I will post something that is from a book, movie, or other type of media is highly probable. You claimed to have a good memory in the past, you should realize by now that I quote when I am quoting.

If a firm can prove that an individual has been dismissed on the lack of academic achievements and requirements, than thats that. A 'greviance' law (so to speak) that entitles the dismissed candidate would make more sense than this 'barring' proposal.

Frankly, I dont think this barring law will be ratified.

Originally posted by Robtard
Proof please?

I dont agree with positive discrimination but why ask for that evidence when surely you know at some point black people were discriminated at work within the last 100 years?

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
I dont agree with positive discrimination but why ask for that evidence when surely you know at some point black people were discriminated at work within the last 100 years?

Have whites never been discriminated against?

I heard a lot on this when I lived in the New Orleans area of Louisiana.

Just say it is the ideal that the man get the job and feel civilized and okay and poof the rule will be gone.

Did you also hear about the flagrant racism of the government towards black people, during Katrina?

Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Did you also hear about the flagrant racism of the government towards black people, during Katrina?

This would be a heated topic in such an area.... I will be thinking of it and coming back to this thread to see if I can think of anything to post.

I think they say it is flagrant because they think that blacks cannot use the excuse that they were brought up different and claim they are the same as whites since they look different. It is famous that Louisiana is the only place I know of that says if you are part white you are all white or get white rights. In Indonesia, I know the Indonesians did not mind being in 3rd caste, probably because the Chinese were upset being 2nd to Dutch. The point is in Louisiana they thought it was neat because they got more work done. I think they put part white blacks as head of blacks, too.

They definitely get hit with the spotlight when something like a hurricane comes. It is dangerous when someone from somewhere else uses another culture's way as an excuse, though, and then people like me from there have no escape, along with the others.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
I dont agree with positive discrimination but why ask for that evidence when surely you know at some point black people were discriminated at work within the last 100 years?

Not proof that Blacks were discriminated against, as we all know it happened/happens (with non-blacks too, but who cares about that?). Proof that there were laws set in place to specifically discriminate against Blacks.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Yeah, you can't pull that one. Adding a question mark to the end of a verbally abusive statement that is intended as a rhetorical question for the entertainment of others at my expense, is NOT a literal question. Also, the remainder of your post does not allude to the plausibility that your first sentence was a genuine question from the perspective of ignorance seeking enlightenment.

Ergo, your attempt to relegate your incorrect assertion of a verbally abusive, yet genuine question, fails.

Name those "outlandish 'feats'".

Yes, he said it.

No, I did not quote him.

Did you see any quotation marks on my part? Given the large quantity of spoken and written words, the probability that I will post something that is from a book, movie, or other type of media is highly probable. You claimed to have a good memory in the past, you should realize by now that I quote when I am quoting.

Oh shit, you trapped me, what am I to do!? Yeah, I said it was my error in the very same post, besides admitting my mistake, not sure what else I can do.

Your uber intelligence for one, I believe there might have been one or two more, let me ponder that for a bit.

The C3PO bit was a joke.

Originally posted by Robtard
Not proof that Blacks were discriminated against, as we all know it happened/happens (with non-blacks too, but who cares about that?). Proof that there were laws set in place to specifically discriminate against Blacks.

Well yeah I know you asked for that specifically but im just wondering, why bother?

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Well yeah I know you asked for that specifically but im just wondering, why bother?

Because he consistently makes ridiculous claims without ever backing them up. Maybe one day, he will.

Originally posted by dadudemon
Funny you should mention that. My white (ginger, actually) coworker was a ridiculously good Cello player.

He auditioned to attend Juilliard. He auditioned late but there was one "slot" left. He had to beat out another person. His grades were identical to the other guys so it literally came down to the audition. I think they had to write an essay or something but, basically, they were dead even in all categories until they played audition.

He performed very well and scored slightly better than the other gentleman.

Guess who got the slot?

Anyone?

You guessed it....NOT my coworker. The other player was African American. My coworker said that before they even started to compare the two, the other guy was automatically awarded 10 points for his skin color.(A disadvantage for anyone other than another race that gets awarded 10 points from the get go.) My coworker scored just barely better...something like two points. He asked the counselor why the hell he was lead onto believe that he even stood a chance (something about points...unless the other guy just totally bombed the audition...there was no way in hell my coworker would have gotten the slot.) The counselor said something about they both had to get the opportunity to play to meet some kind of guideline. I don't know how Juilliard works...but that kind of sucked. It may ave been a government grant qualification, or something. So many minorities attending and you get money or something? I am just guessing at this point.

IMO, the better candidate should have gotten the slot. I don't see a skin color, I see a cello player.

That is incredibly disheartening. What is your co-worker doing now? Political correctness does nothing but give justification to double standards. Minorities have the best tuition, grant and loan programs. I suppose this is a good thing, it caters to minorities that suffer from poverty, but nothing, other than porn, should be race specific in this day.