Originally posted by Lt. ValerianSidious got lucky that after Yoda over powered him with his own force attack and they both flew back, that a bar magically appeared for him to grab on to. Yoda was overpowering him and that's really all there is to it.
It may have seemed, but they are stated to be equals. It will probably be the same here: someone needs to "get lucky" to be able to beat the other.
Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
Sidious got lucky that after Yoda over powered him with his own force attack and they both flew back, that a bar magically appeared for him to grab on to. Yoda was overpowering him and that's really all there is to it.
Yeah, I agree that Yoda was overpowering him, you could just tell by the look on Sidious's face, I also believe that Yoda would probably win in the saber duel, because in the movie he did disarm Sidious of his saber, even though they didn't show it, it's pretty obvious that he did disarm him, otherwise Sidious would have whipped it out when Yoda was flying up to meet him, rather then having that concerned look on his face. With that in mind, I think Yoda would take this matchup.
Originally posted by Darth Subjekt
Sidious got lucky that after Yoda over powered him with his own force attack and they both flew back, that a bar magically appeared for him to grab on to. Yoda was overpowering him and that's really all there is to it.
That's like saying Yoda got lucky when he fell down because a platform to which he could hang on magically appeared. They are equals, there's nothing to it. Besides, there is absolutely nothing indicating Yoda was overpowering Sidious (I just saw the fight in Youtube). A fair duel, let's say, in Dantooine's plains, would be very different. Yoda has nothing to use in his advantage, and neither does Sidious.
probably win in the saber duel, because in the movie he did disarm Sidious of his saber, even though they didn't show it, it's pretty obvious that he did disarm him, otherwise Sidious would have whipped it out when Yoda was flying up to meet him, rather then having that concerned look on his face. With that in mind, I think Yoda would take this matchup.
Yoda did not disarm Sidious. As I said before, I just watched the fight on Youtub and there's not a single moment in the fight suggesting Sidious was disarmed. Besides, your logic fails. Disarming someone doesn't immediately put Person X above Person Y. Being able to disarm an opponent has nothing to do with the person's actual dueling skills.
from how ROTS portrays sidious and yoda i would have to say that yoda takes this but barely.
in ROTS palpatine would rather run away from yoda than face him.
During their lightsaber fight it is very clear to see yoda out dueling him. if you don't agree go to youtube right now and watch the fight palpatine struggles to overcome yoda at least twice from what the film shows.
and lastly during their force fight yoda confidently overcomes palpatines sith lightning( which is more or less quite powerful seeing as how he is the most powerful sith who ever lived and how it looks like he was putting alot of power into it from how the movie shows this scene) and when palpatine realizes that yoda can overcome this the look on his face is priceless and dumbfounded.
so from i i've deduced from the film is that although yoda and sidious are equals yoda is just a better combatant and putting them in a nutreal fighting area i'd say that 6/10 times yoda would win.
after a long and tiring very close fight i believe yoda manages to kill sidious
Originally posted by xxxpoppunker182
from how ROTS portrays sidious and yoda i would have to say that yoda takes this but barely.
That's speculation from your part.
in ROTS palpatine would rather run away from yoda than face him.
That's easily explained: Sidious knew how powerful Yoda is. He didn't want to risk fighting someone such as him, because he knew anyone could emerge victorious.
During their lightsaber fight it is very clear to see yoda out dueling him.
I just don't understand why people keep saying this. It's just not true.
if you don't agree go to youtube right now and watch the fight palpatine struggles to overcome yoda at least twice from what the film shows.
I just did... and of course he struggles. They. Are. Equals. That is why both of them struggle.
and lastly during their force fight yoda confidently overcomes palpatines sith lightning
Confidently? I can assure you he put up a bloody lot of effort to be able to block the lightning.
PS: I forgot to mention this in my other reply: Actually, Sidious is the one who disarms Yoda...
during the lightsaber fight yoda doesn't seem to be struggling at all. but then again i don't own the novelization so he very well could be stated as such but i wouldn't know.
also with that we seem to just have two different takes on how that fight appears to us.
during the force battle yes, yoda put in alot of effort to counter the lightning and i guess confident wasn't what i should have said more like determined. before they were blast apart yoda and sidious knew that yoda had overpowered the sith lightning and the look on yoda face right before they are blast apart is one of either determination or confidence. but again this is what it appears to me.
aren't all vs forums everyones own speculation on who wins and why. so we come together to argue points from our perspective along with canon evidence?
ya i agree. i do think though that in fights like this when it comes down to personal opinions and speculation wouldn't we have to go towards what the majority say?
i think so because of the different cultures around the world. for example here in America it's illegal for anyone to be in public naked because the majority of people are offended by it but over in africa it isn't offensive so it's ok.
the same situation but depending on how the majority views it determines how the situation is dealt with. here in America a naked person would be arrested for indecent exposure and over in Africa the naked will go unpunished all because of peoples different takes on the same issue.
Originally posted by 0°Mandalore°0
That's like saying Yoda got lucky when he fell down because a platform to which he could hang on magically appeared. They [B]are equals, there's nothing to it. Besides, there is absolutely nothing indicating Yoda was overpowering Sidious (I just saw the fight in Youtube). A fair duel, let's say, in Dantooine's plains, would be very different. Yoda has nothing to use in his advantage, and neither does Sidious.Yoda did not disarm Sidious. As I said before, I just watched the fight on Youtub and there's not a single moment in the fight suggesting Sidious was disarmed. Besides, your logic fails. Disarming someone doesn't immediately put Person X above Person Y. Being able to disarm an opponent has nothing to do with the person's actual dueling skills. [/B]
The way "I" perceived the fight he "did" disarm him, I mean really, when Yoda chucked the senate pod back up at Sidious, and Sidious jumped down to another pod, he was looking all frightened and scared, like where is he, where is he, at that point if he "actually" did have his saber "I" think it would have been a good time to pull it out, don't you?