Originally posted by NozdormuGanondorf is physically more powerful than all of them because he can in a near death state jump from under the weight of a castle. Find me a Diablo Hero doing that. The Barb's weapon is not the size of Ganon's, it is about 6', Ganon's weapon is about the same height as him, he is at least 9' tall. And dual wielding two handed weapons makes the Barb's attacks weaker.
You havent mentioned much feats either.. The Diablo Paladin is how he is in-game, only smarter and more effective.. All you are saying is that Ganondorf is stronger, without backing it up with anything.. You are also saying his minions are stronger, without backing it up..Lets think like this then:
In Diablo a warrior downed Diablo's complete form. A barbarian is stronger than a Diablo warrior, while a Paladin is on par or perhaps even beyond the Barbarian. A Paladin also has the majority of skills that a warrior has and many skills on par to the barbarian. They also have holy abilities, which enhance all their abilities vastly and grants them a bunch of more.
1. Oh, I guess an amazon can run a kilometer in a few seconds, dodge the majority of attacks, both projectiles and melee strikes. If you say you have not seen anything that can rival Ganon, you have clearly played too little Diablo 2, or you are very BIASed. The barbarian can for example carry two swords the size of Ganon's one, they strike ten times faster than him, they run faster than him and the paladin is above the barbarian at all physical capabilities.
2. Yes, with perfect AI, gear and a touch of lore. The touch of lore is so that you wont base it entirely on the diablo character, but instead think outside the box. For a paladin can jump, they can dodge and they can parry. They are elite soldiers and should be treaten like that, and not some minor game-character.
3. lol. You are basing this on....? You havent brought up anything to back you up.. only "Ganon is better at this", "Ganon is better at that". Is that all you can think of as proof that the Paladin is chanceless?
Ganondorf has dark magic that goes beyond the Paladin's holy auras and attacks from my experience playing. Ganon can turn entire villages into towns inhabited by souls of the original citizens, he can freeze over whole cities, can turn intangible, and in that form possess people(shit, why can't he just do that to the Pally?), has some mild dimensional powers, can teleport, among others that I don't feel like remembering.
Amazon can run a kilo in a few seconds? Can you PROVE that, as in it isn't just a distance estimate? Ganon is fast enough to near instantly jump 30-50 feet in the air to dodge light arrows, which>>>arrows in speed. Paladin is above Barb in all physical areas? You high? Endurance, sure, but not strength, and maybe not dexterity if the Barb is built right.
Ganon can jump 30-50 feet, dodge and parry light arrows and strikes from the Master Sword simultaneously, Ganon is not an elite soldier, he was a warlord, now he's a God.
I just brought up many things Ganon has done. Hell, Ganon could just freeze the Pally in crystal.
Ganon still falls, as soon as he gets near the Paladin he will get blasted by fire, lightning and ice, his own attacks through the thorns Aura will reflect back onto him, if this is a full powered pally, he would be giving ganon more damage back from his own attack, freeze him in crystal? the fire lighting and ice wouldnt blow the crystal?, whats the duration of the crystal? when has he used it?
Paladin will likely smash Ganon to bits before Ganon even knows whats hit him
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Ganondorf has dark magic that goes beyond the Paladin's holy auras and attacks from my experience playing.
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Ganon can turn entire villages into towns inhabited by souls of the original citizens
Null point.
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
in that form possess people(shit, why can't he just do that to the Pally?)
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Amazon can run a kilo in a few seconds? Can you PROVE that, as in it isn't just a distance estimate?
These are no ordinary humans.
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Paladin is above Barb in all physical areas? You high?
Don't talk shit if you don't know what you're talking about.
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Endurance, sure, but not strength, and maybe not dexterity if the Barb is built right.
It's like comparing a ninja to a WWF wrestler, the very idea of it...
Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Hell, Ganon could just freeze the Pally in crystal.
Originally posted by DarkCSo is the Master Sword and Light Arrows. And they can't kill a Triforceless Ganon.
Funny that you should utter such an ridiculous comment when the Paladin's "holy" spells are designed to combat and counter such types of dark magic anyways.Paladin can destroy said villages handily if it was in his desire to do so; not only does he have Holy Powers but he has a bit of augmented elemental magic in the style of Vizjerei.
Null point.
Shit, why can't he just do that to Link?
The Amazon is much faster and dextrous than a normal human, hailing from a savage jungle island, think Master Chief's level of speed. Hell, even trained necromancers (who hailed from the jungle of Kehjistan) are ridiculously fast, Zayl was able to easily combat a huge demon cat with just his dagger.
These are no ordinary humans.
The Paladin can be stronger than the Barbarian (who has limited use of magic, and has to rely on the use of his muscles ) because of his devotion to the Light, which grants him great Holy strength.
Don't talk shit if you don't know what you're talking about.
Don't be silly. Paladin don't need to rely on muscle mass to be strong, unlike a barbarian. No matter how skilled the barbarian is(like Gorst), he'll never be as agile as someone with less body mass and equivalent martial training.
It's like comparing a ninja to a WWF wrestler, the very idea of it...
Two words: Holy Cleanse.
Which compared to converting the population to souls is nothing. A soul attack can go past physical defenses.
Because Link has the Master Sword and Triforce of Courage.
Okay. Prove she is Master Chief level in speed then. Or are you assuming? Of course they are not normal humans, they are superhuman in all or most areas, but Ganon goes beyond superhuman, Ganon is a God.
Holy strength, but not pure, bashing strength, a Paladin can harm an undead more easily of course, but not a monster or demon.
Never as agile? Sure, but I am talking about DEXTERITY, which in D2 terms is basically chance to hit. A well built Barb needs dexterity even moreso than strength.
That is not a good simile, ninjas are trained warriors and fighters, WWF wrestlers are just trained to put on a show, in this case, it is a larger trained warrior vs. a smaller one.
Can you refresh my memory on what exactly that is?
Originally posted by Burning thoughtWhy would he want to create his own world? He has a perfectly fine one as it is.
Hes got the triforce of power that gives him various powers, he doesnt have the full power otherwise he would of used it, nothing hints to Ganon being able to control the full power of the triforce of power, otherwise he could create his own world.
Originally posted by Burning thoughtHe wouldn't want to. It was never hinted he had more or less than Din's power. Din is not omnipotent btw, only when the Three are together are they. And honestly, PIS aside, Ganon in a straight up fight would laugh at Link, and Link always has outside help against Ganondorf.
prove he can first, thats what ime saying, prove he has the full power of the Goddess the Triforce represents, his whole story is based around tiny things that he could easily overcome completly if he as soon as gaining that triforce piece can create worlds.
Originally posted by Burning thoughtIt is called the limitless power of the Goddess...wtf am I supposed to think it is? Also, I'm not one of the guys(like the wikitards) who think he is nigh omnipotent, as Din isn't either.
so your guessing he has Dins and referring to "world creation" even though theres nothing to think so? other than he has a triforce piece connnected to it.. great
Originally posted by Diamond KissesMaybe, but can't kill him.
[b]Can the paladin not simply use light abilities to harm Ganon? [/B]
Are those abilities as powerful as the Master Sword, a blade of PURE light, which is not succeptible to corruption(like the Paladins are, as Mephisto proved), or the Light Arrows, once again pure light?