Paladin (Diablo) Vs. Ganon (/W touch of balance)

Originally posted by DarkC
As he "should" Link, yet Link triumphs repeatedly.

Paladin > Link.

A pure heart might not helped him, but like I said his soul is pure and that's the only real resistance to an attack that aims at the soul and the traits contained in that soul.

Because he was just a mortal, even if he was a great warrior; the Paladin overcomes a warrior just from the powers granted through his faith to the Light.

Noise again. You're comparing two professions of differing priorities and aims.

UFC fighters are trained for speedy reflexes, sprinters are trained for speedy movement. Amazon is trained and raised to be both, not one or the other.

Anyways, here's a point; if someone has the reflexes to dodge bullets with ease will they be able to outmatch a sprinter? Yes they can, because they have much more control over their body and will be able to put more force and faster movement speed into their legs.

Not sure where I said that; I said she moves at about Master Chief's speed, who ran 500 meters in 12 seconds.

Before you were telling me repeatedly that the barbarian outmatches a Paladin in overall strength.

Comparing that to now, where you're saying that they're equal in overall strength, I'm not even sure why you're bringing it up anymore, or what you're trying to argue about here.

Not Exorcism. Cleanse.

And anyways, a Paladin can have divine intervention save him and purge him of all impurities; remember, it's Heaven who's cleansing him here.

Nonsense. If they hadn't meant "aura" then they wouldn't have called it "aura", period.

Of course a Pally>Link.

2. A pure heart resists soul powers? No...soul strength resists soul powers.

3. And a Pally isn't mortal? So a Pally>all mortals? Hell, Diablo is a mortal technically, as he can die.

4. No, you just don't get that being able to react quickly does not mean you are necessarily that fast. Juggernaut has pretty quick reaction-time, but in terms of running is SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW.

Yeah, both, but you can have one and not the other. That was my only point.

Depends on how they dodged it. And btw, if they dodged a bullet, in terms of reaction-time they are beyond soundspeed, so they are clearly beyond human physically.

Yeah...you did say she can run a kilo in seconds...and when has one ran one? Seriously?

5. That's not what I said. Barbs>Pally in overall strength, a Pally can reach near Barb strength, but not equal.

6. Remind me, is that an aura?

7. And your definitions only stated qualities about a thing or person, abstractual, whereas the Pally auras affect the physical world.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
1. Due to PIS. Link should not be able to get one win off Ganon.

Of course a Pally>Link.

2. A pure heart resists soul powers? No...soul strength resists soul powers.

3. And a Pally isn't mortal? So a Pally>all mortals? Hell, Diablo is a mortal technically, as he can die.

4. No, you just don't get that being able to react quickly does not mean you are necessarily that fast. Juggernaut has pretty quick reaction-time, but in terms of running is SLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW.

Yeah, both, but you can have one and not the other. That was my only point.

Depends on how they dodged it. And btw, if they dodged a bullet, in terms of reaction-time they are beyond soundspeed, so they are clearly beyond human physically.

Yeah...you did say she can run a kilo in seconds...and when has one ran one? Seriously?

5. That's not what I said. Barbs>Pally in overall strength, a Pally can reach near Barb strength, but not equal.

6. Remind me, is that an aura?

7. And your definitions only stated qualities about a thing or person, abstractual, whereas the Pally auras affect the physical world.

Originally posted by MadMel
1. i agree with that
2. he said a pure soul, not heart 😬
3. he might as well not be 😬 and no, only diablo's physical form dies, and regenerates in hell..
4. he was making a comparison
5. like darkC said, why does it matter ?
6. go look it up 😛
7. which doesnt make a difference in this fight..if pally can have 3 auras at once (proven), he should be able to beat ganon..

2. Force of habit, I debate Kingdom Hearts on other forums alot.

3. Well he is. And I thot the Primes died for good in Diablo 2?

4. So was I.

5. ...I'm not really sure...

6. Nah.

7. Pally has auras over Ganon. Ganon has power, strength, speed, base durability, skill(damn right), experience, brutality, and intelligence over the Pally.

The primes never die for good, their like conceptual forces, their "evil" conceptual force, and they come back in hell as madmel said

and Pally has auras over ganon which add to all those powers you say ganon has, its very unlkely ganon would outdo the pally thats for sure

Originally posted by Burning thought
The primes never die for good, their like conceptual forces, their "evil" conceptual force, and they come back in hell as madmel said

and Pally has auras over ganon which add to all those powers you say ganon has, its very unlkely ganon would outdo the pally thats for sure

2. Prove it lets him rival his strength or speed, or his magic skill, swordskill, and power. Won't give him more experience or brutality either. Defense I will give you.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
7. Pally has auras over Ganon. Ganon has power, strength, speed, base durability, skill(damn right), experience, brutality, and intelligence over the Pally.

Originally posted by MadMel
auras increase pally's stats
power - sure, but pallys taken on diablo, whos power and strength can match ganons..pure strength or magic wont do it for ganon..
speed - again, if the pally spams FOH then ganon will be slowed down, if not brought to his knees 😬
base durability - so did diablo, your point?
skill - a perfect ai's skill vs ganon's skill??
experience - so did diablo
brutatlity - didnt stop the pally beating daiblo
intelligence - suposedly the prime evils are omnipotent, yet they were defeated..

2. Light Arrows and Master Sword, weapons designed to kill ganon, could not bring him to his knees. He was not killed when stabbed in the head. Yet FOH will bring him down to his knees in one shot? Hell, I could just say Ganon grabs the Pally, and pushes him through a wall.

3. My point is it's an advantage. And you are assuming in canon a Pally soloed Diablo, we don't know what happened in canon, so we cannot assume the Pally can.

4. Ummm...yeah, a thousands year old master of the arcane and master swordsman>Perfect AI, whatever that is supposed to be.

5. And we do not know how diablo was defeated. For all we know the Necro unzipped his pants and crushed Diablo with the weight of his nuts.

6. The Pally in canon didn't beat Diablo for all we know, so that is a very nonsensical statement.

7. Omnipotent? I believe you mean Omniscient, and they clearly were not.

Tge prime evils were not neccerily omnipotent, omnicient is likely,
however the Prime evils the heroes fought wy were extremely weak versions of them after they had lost almost all their power, the full powered primes would wipe out Sanctuary with ease

also most of diablos power is spoken in lore, books, the sin war books that ive read all of show he is damned powerful, striking fear even into the heart of inarius, who can wipe out words 1000 times over with ease, as well as the fact the primehs fight against angelis council who can wipe beings from excistence, and even freeze whole words and reset time.

Originally posted by Burning thought
Tge prime evils were not neccerily omnipotent, omnicient is likely,
however the Prime evils the heroes fought wy were extremely weak versions of them after they had lost almost all their power, the full powered primes would wipe out Sanctuary with ease

also most of diablos power is spoken in lore, books, the sin war books that ive read all of show he is damned powerful, striking fear even into the heart of inarius, who can wipe out words 1000 times over with ease, as well as the fact the primehs fight against angelis council who can wipe beings from excistence, and even freeze whole words and reset time.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
The D2 warriors did not fight the FP Primes.

In matter of fact, they did. One of them at least. Who Blizzard has placed in the story as the opposition of the primes is unknown. What we do know is that it is a muscular male and one of the original five. Which means that the D2 protagonist is either a barbarian, warrior or a paladin story-wise.

In D2?

Burning Thought just said they were not at FP in D2...

I missunderstood it all.

Originally posted by Diamond Kisses
[b]I missunderstood it all. [/B]

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
2. A pure heart resists soul powers? No...soul strength resists soul powers.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
3. And a Pally isn't mortal? So a Pally>all mortals? Hell, Diablo is a mortal technically, as he can die.

No, Diablo isn't just another mortal; he only truly "dies" when his soul is destroyed (Soulstone), whereas a mortal simply dies after their physical shell is destroyed.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
4. No, you just don't get that being able to react quickly does not mean you are necessarily that fast.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Yeah, both, but you can have one and not the other. That was my only point.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Depends on how they dodged it. And btw, if they dodged a bullet, in terms of reaction-time they are beyond soundspeed, so they are clearly beyond human physically.

Even if a normal human attempted to sprint faster and move their legs much faster than usual they would fall over very quickly because their reflexes cannot handle the increased motor function in the legs.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
Yeah...you did say she can run a kilo in seconds...and when has one ran one? Seriously?

It would take her probably half a minute to run a kilometer. And don't ask me, because Amazons have not yet been featured in any media or lore.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
5. That's not what I said. Barbs>Pally in overall strength, a Pally can reach near Barb strength, but not equal.

And besides, Paladin are no slight men themselves.

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
6. Remind me, is that an aura?

Originally posted by Dark-Jaxx
7. And your definitions only stated qualities about a thing or person, abstractual, whereas the Pally auras affect the physical world.

If you can actually find me a better word to use for those manner of skills instead of "aura", then go ahead.

Originally posted by MadMel
7. which doesnt make a difference in this fight..if pally can have 3 auras at once (proven), he should be able to beat ganon..

Also.. Say that they use DK's said Aura Flashing, there are items that give him even more auras.. I think it's possible for him that with a 3-aura-flashing can have up to 6, or 7 auras with the right gear. With the right gear, he can also bring a summon that has an aura, giving him another one. This summon would be any one of the druid's spirits.

= Strength, Health, Returned Damage or Increased Damage.

By the way.. Arent Ganon undead?

Don't feel like debating right now, but Ganon is not undead. He's an immortal being of divine power.

The thypical response of a devoted fan 😛

Instead of a "No", they elaborate by bringing something impressive up about him 🙄

That's what he is. 😐

He is immortal, and his power is from a divine source.

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