Originally posted by Etrigan
Also I think Punisher fought some dude once called Pittsy in Ennis's series. Whether that was hand-to-hand or not I can't remember, but it's probably good proof of Punisher's fighting prowess as it is. And it isn't biased because he isn't fighting a superhero. Do you have scans of that?
Nope I dont think its canon because its Punisher Max. I think it was in an alternate universe.
I've seen the scans where Bullseye wipes the floor with BW. I've also seen scans of Frank, in h2h stalemating, at least, Bullseye
That being said, I don't think Bulseye is as good as Crossbones.
Frank is very tough and thats why he has given DD a run for his money, despite DD being better at h2h. Its debatable whether Crossbones is as good, skillwise, as DD, or as fast.
I must admit my opinion has shifted slightly -I reckon Punisher v Crossbones h2h would be 6/4 in Crossbones favour.
Originally posted by Etrigan
Neither can I, to be honest, but I'd imagine it's just below Cap's lifting strength, which is a max of 800 pounds if he uses all his effort.Can't find Punisher's lifting strength, but on several occasions I've seen him lift a beefy man above his head with no much effort. So even so, he's pretty strong. The Marvel Directory tells us "The Punisher possesses the normal human strength of a man of his age, height, and build who engages in intensive regular exercise."
Cap actually casually neches over 1000's pounds, and can infact press the same weight over his head.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Bro I did post the scans of him fighting Black Widow and basically humiliating her. 😬Also his fight with Moon Knight
Mk was pissed off as well.
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No one won that fight or WAS winning, all Punisher successfully did was shoot her widow's bite, which is nowhere close to an impressive h2h feat.
And stop misrepresenting that, saying that BW got the drop on him when he shot at her first.
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Originally posted by Etrigan
Well in that case the source I got that info from is retarded.What has he benched that's over 1000 pounds? Casually?
Cap was on a bench, with a bar, with weights that read '1100,' meaning that he was either benching 1100 pounds or 2200 (the former being much more reasonable).
But the impressive thing is that he wasn't straining in the least. He was having a casual conversation with a work out partner at the same time, and immediately afterwards went to go do a bunch of acrobatics.
Originally posted by Soljer
Cap was on a bench, with a bar, with weights that read '1100,' meaning that he was either benching 1100 pounds or 2200 (the former being much more reasonable).But the impressive thing is that he wasn't straining in the least. He was having a casual conversation with a work out partner at the same time, and immediately afterwards went to go do a bunch of acrobatics.
Yup, it was during that ludicrus Cap-Wolf arc... Can't remember which issue...
Here's cap curling 500 Lbs (thanks to Soljer for the scan) http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/1125/curl500tu1.jpg
I can't find the benching feat, the thread it was in isn't opening for me, and it's not reposted in the respect thread on KMC, after I get home I'll post it up for ya.
Crossbones has been trained by Taskmaster and others, which I think says something about his h2h. Hes basically on the bottom end of the next tier up from Punisher h2h wise, if that makes any sense. Crossbones should be able to take this 8/10 at least. Give them both knives and it starts to look better for Punisher.
Originally posted by jinzin
🤨No one won that fight or WAS winning, all Punisher successfully did was shoot her widow's bite, which is nowhere close to an impressive h2h feat.
And stop misrepresenting that, saying that BW got the drop on him when he shot at her first.
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How many times did Punisher get hit....how many times did BW get hit and what happened to her weapon?
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
How many times did Punisher get hit....how many times did BW get hit and what happened to her weapon?
Punisher got one hit off on her, that's not winning.
Disabling one of her widow's bite wrist bracelets is not winning.
And as Etrigan already made clear this fight isn't about weapons, it's h2h.
Originally posted by jinzin
Punisher got one hit off on her, that's not winning.
Disabling one of her widow's bite wrist bracelets is not winning.
No she got hit at least twice read the scans again and she got disarmed. Next time when two people get into a fight if one person doesnt get hit and the other one gets hit twice and gets disarmed im going to think its a stalemate. 👆
Originally posted by jinzin
And as Etrigan already made clear this fight isn't about weapons, it's h2h.
He was refering to the fight that Frank had with WS not BW were Pun pulled out a gun. Thats not H2H at all.
Originally posted by Phantom ZoneShe still had another bracelet she wasn't dissarmed.
No she got hit at least twice read the scans again and she got disarmed. Next time when two people get into a fight if one person doesnt get hit and the other one gets hit twice and gets disarmed im going to think its a stalemate. 👆
No one won that fight.
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Originally posted by Phantom Zone
He was refering to the fight that Frank had with WS not BW were Pun pulled out a gun. Thats not H2H at all.
Originally posted by redhotrash
Crossbones has been trained by Taskmaster and others, which I think says something about his h2h. Hes basically on the bottom end of the next tier up from Punisher h2h wise, if that makes any sense. Crossbones should be able to take this 8/10 at least. Give them both knives and it starts to look better for Punisher.
yeah Crossbones has punked out DD, and Bullseye, stalemated Cap when he had the SSS, and thrashed Winter Soldier.
What he's done in h2h combat speaks volumes above what Punisher has done IMO.
