Originally posted by psycho gundam
the same can be said about apocalypse.thats one guy you don't want to make a "go home, get your best gear, then come back and lets duke it out" fight.
two words, celestial tech.
apocalypse is a cross-over level villian, doom isn't
Doom has stolen Glactus Power, SS Power, Beyonders Power... he has done more than Apocalypse.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
apocalypse mastered celestial technology.apocalypse was a conqueror of civilizations since the written word and concurred multiple futures as well, doom is a flash in the pan, a mere child in comparison.
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My advise is to crack a book outside of the X-Titles once and a while.
Doom is "THE" Villain, APOC is a badguy afterthought.
Originally posted by The Illuminati
🙄My advise is to crack a book outside of the X-Titles once and a while.
Doom is "THE" Villain, APOC is a badguy afterthought.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
heh, your advise is questionable after reading the last sentance.
"afterthought"? age of apocalypse is an afterthought? cable, stryfe, sinister, x-man, warren worthington III etc lives started/ruined by apocalypse and he is an afterthought? c'mon.
Yes, he is an afterthought.
Doom is the bigger named villain.
AOA is an alternate timeline.
Originally posted by redhotrashHe whipped it out, out of nowhere in his battle with Meph.
Because Doom really carries a anti-matter cannon on him at all times... Like I said, give him 10 minutes to go home and get his anti-matter cannon and yeah, but he isnt doing it with his every day gear.
Army of demons/Crimson Bands of Cytorak ftw. 🙂
Originally posted by psycho gundamHe mastered it? Really? Wow... Celestial tech really... sort of... sucks.
apocalypse mastered celestial technology.apocalypse was a conqueror of civilizations since the written word and concurred multiple futures as well, doom is a flash in the pan, a mere child in comparison.
Alternate futures? Doom is the Sorcerer Supreme in one of his futures.
And in canon... he's stolen Galactus's power. Galactus's power/Cosmic Cube/Other artifacts (although it may not be canon... not sure yet). He's stolen Beyonder's power. He's stolen Silver Surfer's power. He's stolen a Watcher's power.
All through a little bit of planning. Doom is a cosmic villain when he's in the mood for power.
However, this battle isn't about what one has done with prep... is it? Or what they have accomplished in that aspect. Hell, if you want to compare... Thanos keeps an eye on Doom at all times.
Originally posted by psycho gundamOf course. Beyonder reclaimed his power (through plot).
all of those things he has lost right.they are somewhat equal in the tech biz and the point about tech was secondary, the meat of the matter is apocalypse being the greater of the two villains by far (imo)
They aren't even close in tech... while Apoc may have assy Celestial tech (as it's assy to what Celestials can do)... he hasn't accomplished what Doom has.
Doom has actually blown apart Meph in his own realm (although he reformed because he's Meph).
He's stolen Galactus's power with a mechanism he built in like 10 minutes of planning/building.
He can steal Surfer's power with his tech.
He redirected Thor's hammer with a field.
He's one shotted Adam Warlock twice with his own blasts in his suit.
Etc.
Secondary maybe... but it's still wrong.
Heh... comics go against that.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
Apocalypse = conquerorDr. Doom = would be conqueror
those titles speak for themselves in terms of accomplishments.
(imo) sans tech, apocalypse literally crushes doom.
with tech, it may be a toss up victory that leads to a bfr.
Apocalypse conquered ancient civilizations in 616 timeline, not that much of a feat.
Originally posted by psycho gundam😂
Apocalypse = conquerorDr. Doom = would be conqueror
those titles speak for themselves in terms of accomplishments.
(imo) sans tech, apocalypse literally crushes doom.
with tech, it may be a toss up victory that leads to a bfr.
Anyway, Doom has ran his own country for years.
What does Apoc rule now?
Plus, that speaks as though it's a "I don't know what they've done, but Apoc has a cool title!" to me. 😬
And I don't even know where that came from. Wiki, Marvel, handbooks? Either way, it's irrelevant.
May I be so bold, as to ask what this is based on?
Plus, sans tech, Apoc is a mutant, without Celestial armor. Doom is a pimp with a scar on his face... with very potent magic skills. Doom would assrape Apoc sans tech.