Dr. Doom versus Apocalypse

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Originally posted by psycho gundam
several cultures, he is known as a god in tombs and tablets.

he concurred at least: china, north america, mexico, south america, upper africa to the middle east to india, the inhumans moon base (sort of) and various other countries in different time lines.

doom has latvaria......

A god to ancient civilizations, that's not that big of a deal, pretty much anyone with powers would have been viewed as a god.

Doom has done more impressive things, get over it.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
intangibility arguably counteracts both.
When has Apoc used intangibility? Let alone all the way back before he got Celestial Tech?

he still possesses it regardless.

alright, during the onslaught fiasco, doom was fighting along side his peers and what was apocalypse doing, he was sipping pina coladas with
uatu for the majority, looking down at the mortals fight in the trenches.

all im saying is apoc is on a higher level of villany than doom.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
all im saying is apoc is on a higher level of villany than doom.

Except he isn't.

Apocalypse better be glad he wasn't fighting because he would've gotten raped.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
he still possesses it regardless.

alright, during the onslaught fiasco, doom was fighting along side his peers and what was apocalypse doing, he was sipping pina coladas with
uatu for the majority, looking down at the mortals fight in the trenches.

all im saying is apoc is on a higher level of villany than doom.

Based on?

So, Apoc was too much of a pussy to fight Onslaught... is what you're saying?

Based on?

chill, apocalypse approached the onslaught situation with a plausible plan
doom got thrashed like the rest of the heroes present.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
chill, apocalypse approached the onslaught situation with a plausible plan
doom got thrashed like the rest of the heroes present.

You act like being beaten by Onslaught is a low showing.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
chill, apocalypse approached the onslaught situation with a plausible plan
doom got thrashed like the rest of the heroes present.
I'm 'chill' as you put it. I'm cooler than a cock in ice.

Doom was part of the thinkers that defeated Onslaught...

no im not, i stated the attack stratagem displayed by en sabah nur was testament to his superiority as a villain thats all.

Originally posted by psycho gundam
no im not, i stated the attack stratagem displayed by en sabah nur was testament to his superiority as a villain thats all.
Villains aren't supposed to be pussies.

That would be like saying Watcher is a better hero than Cap, because he watched Cap get slaughtered by Thanos with IG. Or is a better cosmic than Eternity, Galactus, etc.

Anyway, I'm convinced you're not serious.

your analogy is off, the way you put it Adolf Hitler is a Lessar villain than
jeffrey dahmer just because jeff did it himself.

apoc used his brain in the confruntation, that speaks volumes does it not?

Originally posted by psycho gundam
your analogy is off, the way you put it Adolf Hitler is a Lessar villain than
jeffrey dahmer just because jeff did it himself.
Hitler orchestrated everything... Apoc, and Watcher did shit all.

this is getting lame fast, it's like two am and this is still continuing.
we can't convince each other who is write so I will back off till morning,

this is the first time I have ever seen you get serious in a thread, it's kind of out of character.

Not even close to serious. Just short but sweet posts. 🙂

Also, I don't like continuing debates after the day they happened... so...

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
So, Apoc was too much of a pussy to fight Onslaught... is what you're saying?
Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Villains aren't supposed to be pussies.

lol

Apoc had his reasons for not fighting Onslaught.

Until...

And after all that happened in Cable #35, Apocalypse states that he and Watcher will see who remains after Onslaught.

So... I can see some superiority to Doom here...

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
He mastered it? Really? Wow... Celestial tech really... sort of... sucks.

Sucks?

Apoc used it to turn a normal guy into a Doomsday-like being that the Avengers, including that of Thor, couldn't harm.

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Not... really.

Legion kills Xavier. Apoc awakes from his sleep earlier than he did in 616 and, well, conquers the world.

That reminds me of this video...

http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/257930

What the hell are you talking about.

Accomplishing WHAT?

Doom has actually conquered the world before but gave it up in an old fantatic four. Hes taken the powers of the SS, Galactus and the Beyonder. Hes fought several teams and fought quite well. His track record is great even by villian standards. Your arguement against Dooms counter measures is a fight with Squirrel girl, whose reputation has always been to take down huge villians as an inside joke? Dooms built his own time machine. Apoc has what? celestial tech? Big deal, he almost never usues it properly. His intellect is also a cause for concern considering I rarely see him do anything above average for a supposed evil genius.

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
lol

Apoc had his reasons for not fighting Onslaught.

Until...

And after all that happened in Cable #35, Apocalypse states that he and Watcher will see who remains after Onslaught.

So... I can see some superiority to Doom here...

So , um, he decided not to get involved only to later get involved to try to kill Franklin Richards. Sounds to me more like his plan failed so hes keeping out of it to save his ass.

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Didn't the Mighty Avengers recently take down Doom by brute force?
The entire Avengers team was taken out by Doom. What saved them - Jessica's apparent hidden powers and the Sentry - PIS in a can.

Originally posted by Bad Ash231
Not... really.

Legion kills Xavier. Apoc awakes from his sleep earlier than he did in 616 and, well, conquers the world.

And then hes killed by Magneto alone. 😘 Its hard to argue about Apocalypse when most of the stories he has appeared in don't make any sense. I am still trying to figure out how twelve mutants make a celestial level being despite the "Each of the mutants represent different aspects of nature " bs.