Sasuke- Itachi (Spoiler)

Started by psycho gundam17 pages

tsunade is at least as fast as orochimaru, she would dummy neji up bigtime. i think he could defeat sasuke if he had to, as they are at the same level per say. again, older jonin and up would defeat neji at the moment as displayed by kisame.

I think there are very few ninja in Konoha that have been shown that would beat Neji. Actually besides Jiraiya, Kakashi and possibly Gai the only other person I think that would beat him is Hinata's father that are part of Konoha. Well and maybe Tailed-Naruto.

Shikamaru, Temari or Shino may stand a small chance against him with their long range fighting.

Gaara before loosing his demon could probably beat him.

Sasuke...would beat him cause he's Sasuke there is no other reason. Obviously Kisame and Itachi along with Tobi, and Pein. Deidara would probably beat him.
The other Akatsuki's I think he may have a chance against.

Oro would kill him. I just think the only Sanin he'd beat is Tsunade. She punches things really hard and that's about the extent of her real fighting ability and she uses chakra to make her strong. She's not ever shown to be real skilled or extremely fast.

Basically the only way Tsunade can win is if she gets a solid hit before he can put up a good defense.

um..no jonin let alone a sanin would lose to a rookie nine member at the moment. tsunade's bulk of knowledge is only guessed at as of yet and SHE IS A HOKAGE. neji might be able to draw some blood but we all know her special technique nullifies battle damage, plus she is a greater medical ninja (overall) than kabuto (who is not far behind).

neji gets his head caved in

Neji is a Jonin himself. And she's going to have a hard time healing damage when Neji makes a person unable to use chakra. Last time I checked Tsunade doesn't have a demon inside her to give her more chakra.

And she's Hokage because she's powerful and skilled at what she does. She's just not skilled in fighting and power doesn't always win if you can't use it.

neji is too smart to actually engage tsunade up close and personal.
his ultimate defense may not withstand her punches. plus she can devastate the ground to take him out of that technique.

She isn't breaking Kaiten. There is nothing even to remotely suggest it can even be broken. Neji would also be dumb to not bring the fight to a h2h battle. It's the only thing either one does and he's more skilled and his style takes away the persons chakra leaving her unable to break the ground by amping herself. So yea a up close battle is how the fight would have to play out anyway. And how is breaking the ground going to take him out of expelling a large amount of chakra. Also Kaiten can be used as an attack also as Hinata's father showed.

sigh, you are SOOOO stubborn kento. trying to rationalise everything. tsunde wud win against the real kisame as she wud win against neiji.

I think Kisame would beat Tsunade. She's slower, and she's not a skilled fighter. Also all the strength in the world isn't going to save her from being hit with jutsu after jutsu and carved up. The fact Gai needed to use the gates on 30% chakra Kisame has to say something about his power when Gai is one of the strongest in the village.

And how will Tsunade beat Neji? She isn't getting passed his defense, he's a lot more skilled in h2h fighting, and his style gets rid of her only advantage.

If Tsunade gets a shot in she could probably beat a lot of people but she's not exactly that skilled in fighting. She's only a sanin because she survived a war, she's got a large amount of chakra, she has perfect chakra control, and she's the best there is in medical ninjutsu. Not any of her being Hokage or Sanin translates to her being a good fighter or fast.

To be fair we have never seen Tsunade in a real fight. Once she got past her fear of blood she was destroying Orochimaru and pretty much any damage she takes she can heal in an instant. We have no idea what other kind of jutsu she knows and I am fairly sure her strength alone could break through Neji's Kaiten.

There is no real way of knowing if Kaiten can be broken though since it never has even come close to being beaten. Kidomaru had to stop Neji from being able to spin. And she heals with chakra. She could beat plenty of people if she got her hands on them because of strength and her healing would help her out in a lot of fights but the Hyuuga style sort of takes away that big advantage.

judging from haow many techniques the two other sanin have, it's safe to say that we probably have only seen the tip of the iceberg of tsunade's skills, even orochimaru covets her healing technique.

i agree that neji is exceptional amongst most kanoha shinobi but his performance against the kisame clone shows his faults against the top dogs. to be fair ten-ten and himself were in the same predicament, and nobody thinks she is all that.

next time skip neji will be a sannin level character, not now.

We don't know what it takes to break Kaiten, but it can probably be broken. If it couldn't then Susanoo wouldn't be considered nearly so powerful.

Susanoo has more going for it than just the ultimate defense and it probably doesn't use up a lot of chakra after its summoned and it stays out while Kaiten has to keep being used. Kaiten's fault is that it expels all that chakra at once and it is only for that second or so that its up.

As for Tsunade...everybody covets her healing because she's the most skilled at it. Healing doesn't make her a good fighter. And there is a lot of what ifs concering Tsunade. And just because she may have a lot of techniques doesn't help at all. If you want to get down to it Jiraiya's techniques are all about summoning Toads or using Rasengan. He has a lot of different variations on the toad sure but it's all the same. He doesn't use much else except fire but that is rare. Tsunade has shown to use her medical ninjutsu in different ways plus give herself super strength. Why can't that be the extent of her abilities? She's not exactly famous for being a powerful fighter after all. Orochimaru is the only one who has any type of diversity in his moves and that's because he thinks knowing more jutsu makes one stronger.

Gai was in the same boat as Neji until he let opened the gates. Lee didn't open the gates, and if I remember right Neji didn't exactly do much at all either that he could have. One would think Gai would have done better also when Itachi warned Kisame not to take Gai lightly and then Kisame fights him at 30% after Gai has had three more years to get stronger. Gai was confident he'd stand a chance against Itachi to and Gai may be weird but he's not exactly stupid and he saw what happened to Kakashi. Meanwhile Kakashi basically handled Itachi alone.

Course Kisame is one of the most powerful of the Akatsuki also and the Akatsuki left are probably near the Sanin in power with the exception of like Tobi and Pein who are stronger. Kisame, Pein, and possibly Tobi are a lot more skilled than Tsunade also. The reason I think Tsunade looses is because of her lack of h2h skill and no long range jutsu.

Originally posted by Kento
Susanoo has more going for it than just the ultimate defense and it probably doesn't use up a lot of chakra after its summoned and it stays out while Kaiten has to keep being used. Kaiten's fault is that it expels all that chakra at once and it is only for that second or so that its up.

As for Tsunade...everybody covets her healing because she's the most skilled at it. Healing doesn't make her a good fighter. And there is a lot of what ifs concering Tsunade. And just because she may have a lot of techniques doesn't help at all. If you want to get down to it Jiraiya's techniques are all about summoning Toads or using Rasengan. He has a lot of different variations on the toad sure but it's all the same. He doesn't use much else except fire but that is rare. Tsunade has shown to use her medical ninjutsu in different ways plus give herself super strength. Why can't that be the extent of her abilities? She's not exactly famous for being a powerful fighter after all. Orochimaru is the only one who has any type of diversity in his moves and that's because he thinks knowing more jutsu makes one stronger.

Gai was in the same boat as Neji until he let opened the gates. Lee didn't open the gates, and if I remember right Neji didn't exactly do much at all either that he could have. One would think Gai would have done better also when Itachi warned Kisame not to take Gai lightly and then Kisame fights him at 30% after Gai has had three more years to get stronger. Gai was confident he'd stand a chance against Itachi to and Gai may be weird but he's not exactly stupid and he saw what happened to Kakashi. Meanwhile Kakashi basically handled Itachi alone.

Course Kisame is one of the most powerful of the Akatsuki also and the Akatsuki left are probably near the Sanin in power with the exception of like Tobi and Pein who are stronger. Kisame, Pein, and possibly Tobi are a lot more skilled than Tsunade also. The reason I think Tsunade looses is because of her lack of h2h skill and no long range jutsu.

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I don't really see how Neji's basically get owned against the Kisame clone really means anything. If you remember correctly, they were fighting in water, which is Kisame's specialty regardless. He's pretty much godly when he fights on water.

I'm not sure how Kisame translates into Tsunade either since they have two very different fighting styles and that makes a lot of difference also. Along with the fact the whole battlefield was pretty much his advantage after he turned it to water as you mentioned.

Right. I'm even tempted to say that if Tsunade fought Kisame in the water she might lose.

Somethings been on my mind for awhile, though.

After Itachi and Kisame retreated from J-Man in the hotel, Itachi remarks on how if both him and Kisame had attacked J-Man they probably would have died. Or, in a best case scenario, all three of them would have died. He then says that, even with more men the outcome would not change.

Was Jiraiya really that much stronger then Itachi and Kisame?

Well remember, Itachi had used up so much Chakra his Mangekyo shut down. Of course he'll lose if he can't use his stronger techniques.