Originally posted by Devil King
I don't adhere to only one definition, if I did there would only have been a single definition in my post. My point is that 2 of the 3 definitions represent my view, while only one supports yours. So, if there is anyone here that subscribes to only one definition, it's you.
This is where we disagree, significantly.
"No, my version is more encompassing."
"No, MINE is."
"Nuh uh!"
I don't feel like posting 8+ definitions that correspond to my version. Your versions support my definition better. You generalized with typical cynicism. I called you on a generalization with my questions. Just say, "okay okay..it isn't always true" we be done with it.
However, I agree with your homosexual example. Point taken. Point understood. You're preaching to the choir.
Originally posted by Devil King
And you mean to tell me that you have your head so far up your ass that you refuse to understand what I'm talking about? You disagree with the notion that "gay rights" are rights bestowed on homosexuals by a public majority that thinks rights are theirs to pass out as long as the applicants meet their standards?
Wow. 🙄
"I'm not talking about a simple power outage. I'm talking about enriched plutonium which comes from the conversion of uranium into WMD. It is considered the most dangerous substance known to man and absolutely will shut off the electricity present in planes. All any terrorist has to do is drop large quantities of plutonium from airplanes onto American soil and it will render electricity completely useless. And the chain reaction that will occur from the US shutting down will be global. We Americans have had the capacity to do that to our enemies for years. I had erroneoulsy thought that atheists knew that since they claim to know so much about our universe.
[Emphasis added]
But as usual, you haven't thought things through at all and are speaking from ignorance again" that guy is soooooo dumb
"Make sure your answer uses Scripture, not logic." lol sounds like JesusisAlive
Originally posted by Devil King
People can think it's wrong for what ever reason they wish, but failing to realize it's not their place to pass out rights is motivated by the fact that anyone asked them in the first place. This is where the sense of superiority comes from in this situation.
Who passed out the Human Rights Bill..................people did. 🙂
Originally posted by The big EH
"I'm not talking about a simple power outage. I'm talking about enriched plutonium which comes from the conversion of uranium into WMD. It is considered the most dangerous substance known to man and absolutely will shut off the electricity present in planes. [b]All any terrorist has to do is drop large quantities of plutonium from airplanes onto American soil and it will render electricity completely useless. And the chain reaction that will occur from the US shutting down will be global. We Americans have had the capacity to do that to our enemies for years. I had erroneoulsy thought that atheists knew that since they claim to know so much about our universe.[Emphasis added]
But as usual, you haven't thought things through at all and are speaking from ignorance again" that guy is soooooo dumb
"Make sure your answer uses Scripture, not logic." lol sounds like JesusisAlive [/B]
I think you have it wrong. There is a such a thing as an EM burst the will fry all electronics withing range, but I have never heard anything about plutonium shut off the electricity present in planes.
Originally posted by Shakyamunison
I think you have it wrong. There is a such a thing as an EM burst the will fry all electronics withing range, but I have never heard anything about plutonium shut off the electricity present in planes.
The EMP from a nuclear explosion would definitely fry electronics within a certain vacinity. Just dropping plutonium would only cause radiation poisoning.
Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
Again, looking too much into it. I'm skeptical that there's a sense of "superiority."
Of course there is. The people who espouse their religion as a reason are prime examples. And it can be viewed the same way as when a parent says "I'm doing this for your own good". Well, they're not my parents. So, they aren't doing it because they care. They're doing it because some dumb shit, democracy-lauding moron decided that equal rights were up for debate.
Originally posted by dadudemon
This is where we disagree, significantly."No, my version is more encompassing."
"No, MINE is."
"Nuh uh!"
I don't feel like posting 8+ definitions that correspond to my version. Your versions support my definition better. You generalized with typical cynicism. I called you on a generalization with my questions. Just say, "okay okay..it isn't always true" we be done with it.
Hey, don't drag me into the childish nature of your conversational skills. I posted the definitions and you said I only subscribed to a single definition. Well, in point of fact, you actually only agree with one of them, and that's the happy-go-lucky, everyone loves each other somewhere deep inside version.
Sure, I'll change to suit you. Your head really is up your ass, isn't it? I'm sure in your utopian vision of the world no one of religion is an arrogant prick. Do you support gay marriage? More to the point, do you think it's any of your business?
Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Who passed out the Human Rights Bill..................people did. 🙂
What the hell is a human rights bill?
Originally posted by Devil King
What the hell is a human rights bill?
Universial Declaration of Human Rights.
See, the problem here is Devil King. If there is to God to whom we are all responsible then we humans are indeed the supreme authority on this Earth. Thus it is up to us to decide what rights people have...you can't claim you have a "right" if you cant say where it comes from...
Originally posted by Devil King
What was it, because I'm having a hard time figuring it out myself?
Originally posted by Bardock42I think the point was that all that guy said is scientifically incorrect, yet he talks from a view of superiority. It's a pretty funny quote.
He probably means the Universal Declaration of Human Rights
Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
Universial Declaration of Human Rights.See, the problem here is Devil King. If there is to God to whom we are all responsible then we humans are indeed the supreme authority on this Earth. Thus it is up to us to decide what rights people have...you can't claim you have a "right" if you cant say where it comes from...
I am not addressing any sort of UN resolution. In the United States we collectively agree: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
"Creator" is intentionaly ambiguous, and was included by Mr. Jefferson to show due consideration to the religious and philisophical beliefs of all men, including those who don't subscribe to religion, as he himself did not.
But you will notice that the word "Rights" is capitalized. This is because these rights are "unalienable", which means they are ours from birth and can not be GIVEN or taken. And if we should follow that logic to the present day, one person in this country does not have a right that another does not. Period.
Originally posted by Grand_Moff_GavThat's always the case though. You only have a right if someone grants it to you. But you generally have the freedom even if people deny you it.
Universial Declaration of Human Rights.See, the problem here is Devil King. If there is to God to whom we are all responsible then we humans are indeed the supreme authority on this Earth. Thus it is up to us to decide what rights people have...you can't claim you have a "right" if you cant say where it comes from...
Originally posted by Devil King
I am not addressing any sort of UN resolution. In the United States we collectively agree: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.""Creator" is intentionaly ambiguous, and was included by Mr. Jefferson to show due consideration to the religious and philisophical beliefs of all men, including those who don't subscribe to religion, as he himself did not.
But you will notice that the word "Rights" is capitalized. This is because these rights are "unalienable", which means they are ours from birth and can not be [B]GIVEN
or taken. And if we should follow that logic to the present day, one person in this country does not have a right that another does not. Period. [/B]
So your rights where given to you by the founding fathers...who subsequently withheld them from the slaves...
Originally posted by Grand_Moff_Gav
So your rights where given to you by the founding fathers...who subsequently withheld them from the slaves...
No. The document was written by men. Men who then turned around and realized that those rights were not theirs to give. Unalienable, creator, self-evident, these words are not just tossed in because they sound nice. They have meanings and intent. And these very same men went on to say that the government existed to protect those rights, not to grant them, bestow them or impart them to citizens of foreign nations or even it's own citizenry.
edit: they were withheld from slaves, but a great many of the "founding fathers" desired rights for slaves, but to maintain a revolution against Britain, they had to have the support of the southern colonies, which had an economy based on slavery. But even 100 years before the civil war, they knew it woud end up tearing the country apart.