Yes he is Guy Doom showed that when he stole Galactus powers doing the secret wars, Reality wars been warped around doom by his thoughts.
Well Tenebrous I'm sure will be here.
We are yes 馃槃
As for the battle standard galactus is difficult to make a accurate judgement from, The standard Galactus can either get his ass kicked by Thing ore causing multiversal destruction in a battle with Agamotto which none of them was taking very serious. Galan said that Until we see a Standard Galactus performing that Feat ore something close to it he would say Kubik, I have never seen the Celestials perform any feat that is close to what Kubik performed if it wasn't for Kubik own words I would place him above the Celestials too. I will say that I haven't seen many impressive feats from the Watchers on the scope of the Celestials yet they are widely regarded as roughly equals with a slight edge to the single Celestial against the Single Watcher yet no feats that place them close to Kubik. We have however seen Galactus destroy a watcher without much difficulty I know this sounds like abc logic and I admit that it's partial abc logic, but I will like to remind that Galactus have showed that he can absorb a entire dimension Mephistos to be exact, and I would like to make a second observation that it was Galactus with Gamora as a scapel that managed to break the Hold Magus had over Eternity with five Cosmic Cubes, and the Cosmic cubes are more powerful then the sentient cubes and he broked five of those power. Now that is imo more impressive then Kubik warping a (pocket???) universe.
Originally posted by guy222
Celestials>Watchers. IMO, Celestials by a wide marginUatu seemed powerless when the Monolith Gatherer arrived and we all know happened when the Celestials and Watchers faught. Exitar arrived and he killed the large bald 馃槀 Watcher
Yes as a combined Race then the margin expand, but a single celestial against a single Watcher should be close with a win to the Celestial.
remember that he couldn't interven even if he wanted 馃槈
After Gathering his energy for Eons to destroy the entire race which more ore less was gathered on the same Planet and yet he had to gather energy for Eons, It speaks volume for what it takes to defeat the watchers 馃槈 But the war would undoubtebly have ended with a win to the Celestials if Sue hadn't destroyed Exitar.
Originally posted by guy222
Galactus is a reality warper?Waits for Utrigita and Tenebrous
My Galactus buddies
Guy, for some reason, I KNEW you'd mention the "bald watcher" LOL
Anyway....
....Kubik has stated Celestials>>Kubik, Kosmos, Glorian, and the other Cube Beings...
...Kubik also told Kosmos, during Kubik's cosmology lesson, that the Celestials that Kosmos thought she remembered when she battled them as the beyonder, were mere shadows that were sent by "The Great Powers." However, "they" (ambiguous "they"..may refer to the Celestials that were sent by the Great Powers, or the Great Powers themselves) sometimes deign to interact with such insignificant creatures such as themselves (meaning, Kubik and Kosmos)
....Next few pages after that, Kubik reveals who the Great Powers are....Living Tribunal, Lord Chaos, Master Order, Eternity...and...Big G
so if we go by those scans......it's Big G.
Feat-wise, G has never reached into some other cosmic being's beer gut and broke out a sphere-sized universe.
Cosmic containment units>Cosmic cube beings...like Utrigita said Eternity was catatonic from the power of 5 containment units...G freed him using Gamora as a tool. Magus blew up G's ship with his 5 containment units, killing G. Big G reconstituted himself.
Originally posted by Tenebrous....Kubik has stated Celestials>>Kubik, Kosmos, Glorian, and the other Cube Beings...
Originally posted by Tenebrous...Kubik also told Kosmos, during Kubik's cosmology lesson, that the Celestials that Kosmos thought she remembered when she battled them as the beyonder, were mere shadows that were sent by "The Great Powers." However, "they" (ambiguous "they"..may refer to the Celestials that were sent by the Great Powers, or the Great Powers themselves) sometimes deign to interact with such insignificant creatures such as themselves (meaning, Kubik and Kosmos)
....Next few pages after that, Kubik reveals who the Great Powers are....Living Tribunal, Lord Chaos, Master Order, Eternity...and...Big G
so if we go by those scans......it's Big G.
Originally posted by TenebrousCosmic containment units>Cosmic cube beings...
Originally posted by Tenebrouslike Utrigita said,
Eternity was catatonic from the power of 5 containment units...
G freed him using Gamora as a tool.
The 5 CCU's were stolen by the Goddess by the time Galactus operated:
A few pages later Gamora returns from freeing Eternity.
(the operation was depicted on panel in Warlock #9 - 1 week later after IW#5)
The power of the Cubes aren't mentioned once,
and clearly Eternity/Infinity's essence was bonded in catatonia,
not by the Cubes themselves.
Which is inconsequential anyway cause the Cubes were not even in Magus' control anymore.
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Eternity was ko'd by CCU, and left bonded in catatonia,
but he was not being held by the power of the CCU's.
The CCU's were busy merging the 616 Reality with the duplicate 616 Universe they created:
This is why Magus (with the IG) later said:
"My takeover of your Actuality,
USING my now missing Cosmic Containment Units,
would have taken Hours to Accomplish"
Originally posted by TenebrousMagus blew up G's ship with his 5 containment units,
killing G. Big G reconstituted himself.
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Galactus, imo, is above Cube beings,
but Cosmic Containment Units are far beyond Galactus,
as they are above even Eternity in power.
Originally posted by Utrigita
Yes he is Guy Doom showed that when he stole Galactus powers doing the secret wars, Reality wars been warped around doom by his thoughts.Well Tenebrous I'm sure will be here.
We are yes 馃槃
As for the battle standard galactus is difficult to make a accurate judgement from, The standard Galactus can either get his ass kicked by Thing ore causing multiversal destruction in a battle with Agamotto which none of them was taking very serious. Galan said that Until we see a Standard Galactus performing that Feat ore something close to it he would say Kubik, I have never seen the Celestials perform any feat that is close to what Kubik performed if it wasn't for Kubik own words I would place him above the Celestials too. I will say that I haven't seen many impressive feats from the Watchers on the scope of the Celestials yet they are widely regarded as roughly equals with a slight edge to the single Celestial against the Single Watcher yet no feats that place them close to Kubik. We have however seen Galactus destroy a watcher without much difficulty I know this sounds like abc logic and I admit that it's partial abc logic, but I will like to remind that Galactus have showed that he can absorb a entire dimension Mephistos to be exact, and I would like to make a second observation that it was Galactus with Gamora as a scapel that managed to break the Hold Magus had over Eternity with five Cosmic Cubes, and the Cosmic cubes are more powerful then the sentient cubes and he broked five of those power. Now that is imo more impressive then Kubik warping a (pocket???) universe.
Here ya go, my friend
Kubik's words
We should all realize that the Celestials created Mankind in Marvel,
and Mankind will one day have the LT (and all the abstracts) bowing to them:
In fact,
the destiny of Mankind of Earth 616,
is to become ONE with the infinite Multiverse,
that encompasses the ever expansion that is Eternity:
I suppose this means all of 616's Mankind will become Gods unto themselves,
their own UniverseS,
where time-space is directed by they themselves,
time-space may even be meaningless,
as conceptual ideas will be dependent,
on the Human God that manages his/her corner of infinity.
