Originally posted by Galan007
Mr M.Who do you think wins this particular thread?
Then again, sevarl alternates have displayed power that Galactus 616 should posses.
Like the creation of the next Marvel Universe (Last Galactus Story)
And other incidents we all know of.
616 Galactus has proven to be composed of Infinite energies
like when he returned to his natural state.
His would be Herald claimed he contained a Cosmos withIN him.
And other interesting extras.
So based on feats alone, Kubik > Galactus.
But when we observe the two more indepth, Galactus, imo.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Right, I did say that.Then to give your post the benefit off the doubt,
I said,even if the Cubes were under Magus' control at the time of Galactus' operation,
it did NOT matter,
cause it was in Magus' INTEREST for Galactus to free Eternity,
bacause that was part of the Magus' plan.So in fact, if the Cubes were holding Eternity in catatonia,
I'm 100% confident,
Magus allowed Galactus to be able to free Eternity from his bonds,
because that WAS Magus' PLAN all along.(there's NO arguing this)
Surely you couldn't have missed all the On Panel proof I posted above,
the evidence is indisputable.Inconsequential Ut.
If the Magus was controlling the Cubes at the time of the operation,
Galactus was going to be allowed to free Eternity by Magus.If the Cubes were stolen before the operation,
then the Cubes were of no consequence during the operation,
since Cubes are directed by the wishes of their wielders.
Goddess had no interest in the unconsciousness of Eternity.So one way or another,
the Cubes were not using their power to restrict Galactus from succeeding.Bacause 1: Magus' plan was for Galactus to free Eternity.
Because 2: If Goddess had stolen them prior, then the bond would've become null,
as in not sustained by the Cubes.Correct, he was ko'd.
Eternity was once in a Two Month coma,
so it's not the first time it happens.Cool, so long as we understand that.
I don't know, what I do know is that wasn't the situation in Infinity War,
and I proved that already.Please review the unquestionable On Panel evidence posted above.
This has nothing to do with the CCU scenario.
So this comparison is inconsequential.
One last question and I didn't overlook all your evidence above.
If the Cubes hadn't been stolen and Galactus had seen no reason to act to save eternity then what? Would the Cubes then by the order of Magnus act to turn back the Catatonic ore would Magnus still need Galactus because that's what it looked like to me Magnus even with 5 CCUs needed Galactus to do something he should be capable of doing relative easy. But maybe i'm miscalculating something. Ore maybe It's a circle I'm a bit tired right now, so isn't sure 馃槈
Originally posted by Tenebrous
Guy, for some reason, I KNEW you'd mention the "bald watcher" LOLAnyway....
....Kubik has stated Celestials>>Kubik, Kosmos, Glorian, and the other Cube Beings...
...Kubik also told Kosmos, during Kubik's cosmology lesson, that the Celestials that Kosmos thought she remembered when she battled them as the beyonder, were mere shadows that were sent by "The Great Powers." However, "they" (ambiguous "they"..may refer to the Celestials that were sent by the Great Powers, or the Great Powers themselves) sometimes deign to interact with such insignificant creatures such as themselves (meaning, Kubik and Kosmos)
....Next few pages after that, Kubik reveals who the Great Powers are....Living Tribunal, Lord Chaos, Master Order, Eternity...and...Big G
so if we go by those scans......it's Big G.
Feat-wise, G has never reached into some other cosmic being's beer gut and broke out a sphere-sized universe.
Cosmic containment units>Cosmic cube beings...like Utrigita said Eternity was catatonic from the power of 5 containment units...G freed him using Gamora as a tool. Magus blew up G's ship with his 5 containment units, killing G. Big G reconstituted himself.
Would you by any chance have the Scan Tenebrous???
Originally posted by Mr Master
As you pointed out,
Kubik has definitely performed feats on a greater scale,
but Galactus is a slippery character, who can't imo, be judged too much on his feats,
due to his purposeful role in the Multiverse,
it's simply not in his nature to warp/destroy/or create realities, as we know Kubik is able.Then again, sevarl alternates have displayed power that Galactus 616 should posses.
Like the creation of the next Marvel Universe (Last Galactus Story)
And other incidents we all know of.
616 Galactus has proven to be composed of Infinite energies
like when he returned to his natural state.His would be Herald claimed he contained a Cosmos withIN him.
And other interesting extras.
So based on feats alone, Kubik > Galactus.
But when we observe the two more indepth, Galactus, imo.
agreed. 馃檪
Originally posted by UtrigitaIf the Cubes hadn't been stolen
and Galactus had seen no reason to act to save eternity then what?
Would the Cubes then by the order of Magnus act to turn back the Catatonic ore would Magnus still need Galactus because that's what it looked like to me Magnus even with 5 CCUs needed Galactus to do something he should be capable of doing relative easy.
This would force Galactus to go to Eternity and get the IG to function,
get the IG to function right after he stole it from Warlock.
If Galactus would've been unable to free Eternity,
then that would've foiled Magus' plans,
cause then the IG would never become functional.
This is why without a doubt,
if the Cubes were controlled by Magus at the time of the operation,
he would've made sure Galactus freed Eternity.
So yes, Magus needed Galactus to run to Eternity in desparation,
to get Eternity to turn on the IG through the LT,
so Magus could have a functioning IG.
If Magus would've freed Eternity himself,
then there would've been no panic, therefore no need to turn on the IG.
Originally posted by UtrigitaBut maybe i'm miscalculating something.
Ore maybe It's a circle I'm a bit tired right now, so isn't sure
I love discussing comics with true debaters such as yourself and others Ut.
it's the trolls that make me sick,
I'm dealing with one elsewhere as we speak.
Originally posted by Mr Master
The point of Eternity getting KO'd,
was for Magus to seem so dangerous that the IG would be needed to defeat him,
this is because Magus wanted the IG all along,
but Magus knew the IG was not functioning,
and Magus knew the IG could only work if Eternity asked and the LT allowed it,
so Magus created a situation of desperation, this was his plan:This would force Galactus to go to Eternity and get the IG to function,
get the IG to function right after he stole it from Warlock.If Galactus would've been unable to free Eternity,
then that would've foiled Magus' plans,
cause then the IG would never become functional.This is why without a doubt,
if the Cubes were controlled by Magus at the time of the operation,
he would've made sure Galactus freed Eternity.So yes, Magus needed Galactus to run to Eternity in desparation,
to get Eternity to turn on the IG through the LT,
so Magus could have a functioning IG.If Magus would've freed Eternity himself,
then there would've been no panic, therefore no need to turn on the IG.It's a good subject and needed to be investigated meticulously,
so I think it worked out in the end.I love discussing comics with true debaters such as yourself and others Ut.
it's the trolls that make me sick,
I'm dealing with one elsewhere as we speak.
But couldn't Galactus ask the LT to turn on the IG by himself, I remember him saying something in the story along the linies "the Living Tribunal will only address the concerns of a being of my stature a truly cosmic entity"
top left scan
Originally posted by UtrigitaBut couldn't Galactus ask the LT to turn on the IG by himself,
I remember him saying something in the story along the linies "the Living Tribunal will only address the concerns of a being of my stature a truly cosmic entity"
Galactus did ask the LT,
the LT refused to help unless Eternity asked himself:
I explained this in the previous page with the scans,
I thought you didn't overlook my evidence?
Bad, bad Ut. 馃槢
Originally posted by Mr Master
Galactus did ask the LT,the LT refused to help unless Eternity asked himself:
I explained this in the previous page with the scans,
I thought you didn't overlook my scans?Bad, bad Ut. 馃槢
That one I must be franked I looked through real quick so 馃槢
btw they take a hundred years to open 馃槈
