Originally posted by Never
Yeah yeah, the "Death of Superman" story arc right? First meeting. That's why I said Superman said Doomsday was like a "blur" -- and it is generally known that right around the speed of sound = blur to the human eye.
Depends on distance and size for tracking. A fast moving object which is larger and further away can look like its not moving at all😄 Its all perspective Never. You need to work on your science😄
Keep the faith😄
Stay Whirly 🤘
"Doomsday just kept getting stronger and faster threw out the fight, forcing Supes to fight even faster and hit even harder. They were way faster than Thor back then."
Way faster? Reporters wer following the fight at naked eye like Lois Lane. Cameraman`s wer shotting in film the whole fight. You can even see panels of the fight going on tv. Jimmy was taking pictures and the only " flash " coment made was from a guy that is not a speedester and that was with a concusion in his head.
They wer moving fast but not at super speed.
Originally posted by olympian
"Doomsday just kept getting stronger and faster threw out the fight, forcing Supes to fight even faster and hit even harder. They were way faster than Thor back then."Way faster? Reporters wer following the fight at naked eye like Lois Lane. Cameraman`s wer shotting in film the whole fight. You can even see panels of the fight going on tv. Jimmy was taking pictures and the only " flash " coment made was from a guy that is not a speedester and that was with a concusion in his head.
They wer moving fast but not at super speed.
I suspect that they were🙂
Originally posted by whirlysplat
Depends on distance and size for tracking. A fast moving object which is larger and further away can look like its not moving at all😄 Its all perspective Never. You need to work on your science😄Keep the faith😄
Stay Whirly 🤘
Hello, Captain Obvious?
You need to work on your reading. Of course I am referencing the fight between Superman and Doomsday...because I said...Superman mentioned that Doomsday was a blur?
LoL
"Ummm. What qualifies as "super speed"?"
Something that the human eye cant follow maybe? Otherwise everyone faster than peak human would be super fast.
"They'd have to be going pretty fast. Its not like DBZ when people vannish at about 30 mph."
I didnt said they werent going fast. Of course they wer. Just not super fast in the sense Superman and speedesters do.
"Even if he wasn't then he certainly can"
He didnt used his super speed in this fight. However he does have super speed. Thats not even an argument.
Originally posted by olympian
"Ummm. What qualifies as "super speed"?"Something that the human eye cant follow maybe? Otherwise everyone faster than peak human would be super fast.
"They'd have to be going pretty fast. Its not like DBZ when people vannish at about 30 mph."
I didnt said they werent going fast. Of course they wer. Just not super fast in the sense Superman and speedesters do.
"Even if he wasn't then he certainly can"
He didnt used his super speed in this fight. However he does have super speed. Thats not even an argument.
I actually agree on that fight as Jimmy Olsen snapped pictures, he did slam him into a mountain at a few hundred miles an hour, but he can go much faster😄
"I think it's something like that, when Cell and Goku were fighting the camera men couldn't keep up with there speed."
Because they wer figthing at super speed.
"That just like Supes and Doomsday fight, it's just on pages"
They werent figthing at super speed, therefore pll could see the fight.
The examples you gave are different, even it seems you tried to make them the same. In case one super speed was used, in case two it wasent.
Originally posted by olympian
"I think it's something like that, when Cell and Goku were fighting the camera men couldn't keep up with there speed."Because they wer figthing at super speed.
"That just like Supes and Doomsday fight, it's just on pages"
They werent figthing at super speed, therefore pll could see the fight.
trust Dvampire to use my post in his Anti DBZ campaign. I wasn't talking about Cell and Goku, I was talking more baout the Dragonball fights with yamcha and tien and master Roshi. I mean seriously how fast can that old fart be? yet he disapeared all the freakin time during his fight with Goku.
My initial point was that Two human sized objects would have to be going ridiculously fast not to be seen by on lookers and cameras. Just becasue people saw them fighting, doesn't mean they wheren't moving at supersonic speeds.
Originally posted by olympian
"I think it's something like that, when Cell and Goku were fighting the camera men couldn't keep up with there speed."Because they wer figthing at super speed.
"That just like Supes and Doomsday fight, it's just on pages"
They werent figthing at super speed, therefore pll could see the fight.
The examples you gave are different, even it seems you tried to make them the same. In case one super speed was used, in case two it wasent.
So were DD and Supes. The camera men couldn't keep firing becasue they were moving so fast, until it came down to the final few blows. Thats what happen with the Cell and Goku fight, the camera men could barely keep up because they were moving to fast.😐
Originally posted by yahman
trust Dvampire to use my post in his Anti DBZ campaign. I wasn't talking about Cell and Goku, I was talking more baout the Dragonball fights with yamcha and tien and master Roshi. I mean seriously how fast can that old fart be? yet he disapeared all the freakin time during his fight with Goku.My initial point was that Two human sized objects would have to be going ridiculously fast not to be seen by on lookers and cameras. Just becasue people saw them fighting, doesn't mean they wheren't moving at supersonic speeds.
At the beginning of DBZ they were only as fast as a car. So they weren't that fast, just faster than the human eye can see. I like DBZ, but people tend to over-exaggerate when it comes to them. 😐
"I mean seriously how fast can that old fart be? yet he disapeared all the freakin time during his fight with Goku."
And against krillin.
Db fights when going at uber speeds aret followed by the common people. Other figthers trained to see as fast as they fight yeah. Remember how Gohan couldnt follow yamchas fight with the saybaman? Yet all the others - z figthers- could.
Originally posted by olympian
"I mean seriously how fast can that old fart be? yet he disapeared all the freakin time during his fight with Goku."And against krillin.
Db fights when going at uber speeds aret followed by the common people. Other figthers trained to see as fast as they fight yeah. Remember how Gohan couldnt follow yamchas fight with the saybaman? Yet all the others - z figthers- could.
Gohan was able to see after Piccolo told him he was fast enough to do so. But then poor Yamcha died after his victory.
"At the beginning of DBZ they were only as fast as a car."
So if a car runs fast you cant follow it? Because pll at beginning couldnt follow them.
"So they weren't that fast, just faster than the human eye can see."
And again faster than the human eye can see...its super speed.
The Doomdsay first fight with Superman was all followed by the most common of people so they werent " just faster than the human eye can see". Thats not super speed unlike the other examples.
Seems to me its you whos over exageratting the level of speed showed in that story.
Originally posted by dvampire
At the beginning of DBZ they were only as fast as a car. So they weren't that fast, just faster than the human eye can see. I like DBZ, but people tend to over-exaggerate when it comes to them. 😐
Not that i don't believe you but where did you get 'At the beginning of DBZ they were only as fast as a car.'from ?