Thor vs Superman

i'll certainly not argue that point, cc. but i found this little bit i just wanted to throw out (to everyone) mostly because i found it sort of amusing. this in an excerpt from an interview with tom brevoort, an editor (still editor?) at marvel:

<<Q) As the editor of the JLAvengers, what is your opinion on the fan response to the last few issues of this crossover? Anything happen that you didn’t expect and or were you expecting a particular fan reaction that did not happen?

A) I think a ton of fans acted like babies over the Thor/Superman fight in JLA/AVENGERS #2—that after spending months saying again and again that they wanted a clean fight with a clean winner, many people whined and reversed their stance when things went the way they did. The folks who claimed that we’d forever destroyed the Marvel Universe, or Thor, or Galactus, or heaven knows who else. All of these concerns that had less to do with the merits of the story and everything to do with bragging rights and the complainer’s own personal intense identification with the character. We knew we’d get some blowback, but I don’t think anybody anticipated the extent of it. And it’s not even over—it’s still going on, and it’s the same bunch of guys still squawking about it months later. And it isn’t going to do any good—it’s not like we’re going to recall the book or something.>>

amen to that tom . . .

Wonder Woman back in the day was vulnerable to bullets/shrapnel. She used to bleed from them. But she can go toe to toe with Superman/Shazam.....

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Start of Battle - Supes vibrates invisible...

Thor - Show yourself coward! The prince of Asguard would battle thee!!!
Suddenly Thor is poked in both eyes. He can't see! This pisses him off quite a bit. He begins gathering power into Mjolnir and releases a massive Godforce blast in all directions. Superman, being the coy fellow he has been of late... vibrates intangible and gets into a better angle towards the sun. He then unleashes a blast of heat vision that leaves nothing but Mjolnir on the ground. Zauriel is happy hours
later as he gets a new trophy for the JLA watchtower.

Originally posted by Dizzle
Fixed it. Just cuz you can make Thor sound like a lumbering idiot doesn't mean Superman wins... Go Thor.

There...fixed that for you again buddy.

don't ask me to explain it sentry, i'm just reporting what i saw.

and to anyone who DOUBTS thor can be injured, the balck panther incident (thor is struck in the head by a bullet and is actually knocked unconscious!) it took place in the BP vol2 #6-8 story arc. it DID raise lots of controversy by fans, apparently, but it DID happen, and it IS cannon.

again, don't ask me to explain it, i just report the facts as i find 'em.

Originally posted by leonidas
don't ask me to explain it sentry, i'm just reporting what i saw.

and to anyone who DOUBTS thor can be injured, the balck panther incident (thor is struck in the head by a bullet and is actually knocked unconscious!) it took place in the BP vol2 #6-8 story arc. it DID raise lots of controversy by fans, apparently, but it DID happen, and it IS cannon.

again, don't ask me to explain it, i just report the facts as i find 'em.

Thor can take lot of punishment

*sigh* There should be rules about inconsistency.

Superman once got KOed by a headbutt.

I guess this bullet was more powerful than the Hulk, Glad, Juggs, etc.?

When unsure, use a character at his best. The rest is generally disregarded.

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
*sigh* There should be rules about inconsistency.

Superman once got KOed by a headbutt.

I guess this bullet was more powerful than the Hulk, Glad, Juggs, etc.?

When unsure, use a character at his best. The rest is generally disregarded.

Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Start of Battle - Supes vibrates invisible...

Thor - Show yourself coward! The prince of Asguard would battle thee!!!
Suddenly Thor is poked in both eyes. He can't see! This pisses him off quite a bit. He begins gathering power into Mjolnir and releases a massive Godforce blast in all directions. Superman, being the coy fellow he has been of late... vibrates intangible and gets into a better angle towards the sun. Whoever was writing this comic then realized... "Hold a tick, Superman can't vibrate through a magical blast... What have I been smoking?" He then erases the vibrating Superman and replaces it with a smoking corpse.

ALTERNATE ENDING: Superman, briefly drawing on the power fanboy, does his retarded little vibrating thing. Thor sees the heat vision coming, prepares himself before the blast, then sends Mjolnir a-twirlin', sending the blast back at Superman. The blast was obviously millions of degrees Celsius (😉), and melts even the man of steel into a puddle.

There...fixed that for you again buddy.

We calls it WAR!!!

<<Not best use average, Thor is not as durable, but we have seen him take lot of punishment.>>

average?? where have i heard THAT before . . .? 🙂

and i agree. it is sort of ridiculous, but again, these inconsistencies in his durability DO hurt him a little. supes HAS no such inconsistencies. his durability is one of the things that MAKES him supes.

that, and being able to turn intangible against any attacks. i don't see why THAT wouldn't work against thor's hammer or god force . . .

Originally posted by leonidas
<<Not best use average, Thor is not as durable, but we have seen him take lot of punishment.>>

average?? where have i heard THAT before . . .? 🙂

and i agree. it is sort of ridiculous, but again, these inconsistencies in his durability DO hurt him a little. supes HAS no such inconsistencies. his durability is one of the things that MAKES him supes.

that, and being able to turn intangible against any attacks. i don't see why THAT wouldn't work against thor's hammer or god force . . .

Superman has no inconsistencies regarding his durability? I beg to differ.

Several unanswered questions regarding intangibility. Was he truely intangible? Can he "vibrate" through the same chaotic energies of magic that bypass his bioaura? Many unanswered questions.

Supes should take this fight. He is way to fast for Thor. He can speed biltz him and use his Heat Vision and Ice Breath. Thor is not fast enough to hit him if Supes start using his speed.

"Wonder Woman back in the day was vulnerable to bullets/shrapnel. She used to bleed from them. But she can go toe to toe with Superman/Shazam....."

She still is. Its her bracelets that protect her and the fact she has a good damage soaking ability. Like every top tier.

"Thor is not fast enough to hit him if Supes start using his speed."

Thor has fought speedesters before. Punch by punch.

Originally posted by olympian
"Wonder Woman back in the day was vulnerable to bullets/shrapnel. She used to bleed from them. But she can go toe to toe with Superman/Shazam....."

She still is. Its her bracelets that protect her and the fact she has a good damage soaking ability. Like every top tier.

"Thor is not fast enough to hit him if Supes start using his speed."

Thor has fought speedesters before. Punch by punch.

Supes Wins!!!

He just throws some bullets at Superspeed😄

Originally posted by whirlysplat
When Gladiator used Superspeed against Thor he was lost😄

Supes Wins!!!

He just throws some bullets at Superspeed😄

Originally posted by K3VIL
That's the proof you're an idiot.
You keep saying the same thing hundred times, without any concrete argument.
End of the comic issue, Thor pummel the crap out of Kallark at the JFK airport, leaving him face on the ground.
Bullets at Superspeed?
Hyperion of the Squadron Supreme in his last fight with Thor speedblitzed him at sonic speed, Thor barely felt the hit and pummeled him with Mjolnir, a speeding bullet is like a chewin gum to him.

I'm an idiot🙂 I never said I could beat up Daredevil and Batman Kevil😄
HE has been hit by lots of bullets and most times they hurt him😄

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Superman has no inconsistencies regarding his durability? I beg to differ.

Several unanswered questions regarding intangibility. Was he truely intangible? Can he "vibrate" through the same chaotic energies of magic that bypass his bioaura? Many unanswered questions.

His beaten lots of magical enemies stronger than Thor😄

Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Superman has no inconsistencies regarding his durability? I beg to differ.

Several unanswered questions regarding intangibility. Was he truely intangible? Can he "vibrate" through the same chaotic energies of magic that bypass his bioaura? Many unanswered questions.

I don't see why he couldn't as Doomsdays Firebreath went right through him.
Fire is heat and energy, correct?

Originally posted by Dizzle
We calls it WAR!!!

Fair is fair, Panel#4...he vibrates through a blast. Energy is energy, magical or not.

Posted by Dan Jurgens on Monday, February 23 2004 at 20:11:06 GMT

After numerous e-mails from friends pointing to a minor firestorm of sorts regarding my comments relating to the power levels of Thor and Superman, I thought some clarity might help.

Yes, in the exchange, I was asked if Superman was a million times more powerful than Thor. I said yes.

I also chuckled as I said it, a very important part of the response that did not translate into print. I don't blame Rich as he gave me the chance to edit the interview. Quite frankly, it never occurred to me that anyone would seriously think that statement was an accurate representation of my belief on the matter.

So... we screwed up.

Superman is NOT a million times more powerful than Thor. In my book, he is probably not even twice as powerful as Thor. Superman has more expansive powers than Thor, IMO, thanks to his vision powers, etc.

I also think they fight quite differently. Thor tends to be more of a brawny reactionary type, while Superman probably fights with a more strategic approach. Thor is more likely to cut loose with the full measure of his powers as he does not have the "dampers" on that power that Superman was raised with. Both qualities can be an advantage or disadvantage, depending on the circumstances.

If they fought ten times, neither would win all ten, or even seven, eight or nine battles, for that matter. Not anymore than the Miami Dolphins would beat the Jets ten games out of ten.

I apologize for any confusion.

DJ

http://www.comicboards.com/thor/view.php?trd=040223201106

that is the web site. In the interview that he was trying to clarify where he admits that supes is stronger and more powerful than thor but the magic thing will tips the scales to thor sie, but my question to that is even though for a while the magic weakness has been downplayed why would it hurt supes now. second thor usually goes all out with his powers while supes holds back constantly(not my words but Dan Jurgens) so would not that mean that supes if he doesnot hold back will destroy thor??

Fails me how the heck some people would even think Superman was "milion times" more powerful than Thor. LoL. Ridiculous.