Thor vs Superman

Originally posted by supermanprime
Posted by Dan Jurgens on Monday, February 23 2004 at 20:11:06 GMT

After numerous e-mails from friends pointing to a minor firestorm of sorts regarding my comments relating to the power levels of Thor and Superman, I thought some clarity might help.

Yes, in the exchange, I was asked if Superman was a million times more powerful than Thor. I said yes.

I also chuckled as I said it, a very important part of the response that did not translate into print. I don't blame Rich as he gave me the chance to edit the interview. Quite frankly, it never occurred to me that anyone would seriously think that statement was an accurate representation of my belief on the matter.

So... we screwed up.

Superman is NOT a million times more powerful than Thor. In my book, he is probably not even twice as powerful as Thor. Superman has more expansive powers than Thor, IMO, thanks to his vision powers, etc.

I also think they fight quite differently. Thor tends to be more of a brawny reactionary type, while Superman probably fights with a more strategic approach. Thor is more likely to cut loose with the full measure of his powers as he does not have the "dampers" on that power that Superman was raised with. Both qualities can be an advantage or disadvantage, depending on the circumstances.

If they fought ten times, neither would win all ten, or even seven, eight or nine battles, for that matter. Not anymore than the Miami Dolphins would beat the Jets ten games out of ten.

I apologize for any confusion.

DJ

http://www.comicboards.com/thor/view.php?trd=040223201106

that is the web site. In the interview that he was trying to clarify where he admits that supes is stronger and more powerful than thor but the magic thing will tips the scales to thor sie, but my question to that is even though for a while the magic weakness has been downplayed why would it hurt supes now. second thor usually goes all out with his powers while supes holds back constantly(not my words but Dan Jurgens) so would not that mean that supes if he doesnot hold back will destroy thor??

So that Busiek and Jurgens 😄

Hmm more often than not Supes wins in the opinion of creators😄

Great post😄 Well done man!!!!!!!

Originally posted by olympian
Fails me how the heck some people would even think Superman was "milion times" more powerful than Thor. LoL. Ridiculous.

superman is stonger , Thor is much more powerful ( his hammer)

Live with it thats 2 creators who think Thor more often than not😄

Originally posted by supermanprime
Posted by Dan Jurgens on Monday, February 23 2004 at 20:11:06 GMT

After numerous e-mails from friends pointing to a minor firestorm of sorts regarding my comments relating to the power levels of Thor and Superman, I thought some clarity might help.

Yes, in the exchange, I was asked if Superman was a million times more powerful than Thor. I said yes.

I also chuckled as I said it, a very important part of the response that did not translate into print. I don't blame Rich as he gave me the chance to edit the interview. Quite frankly, it never occurred to me that anyone would seriously think that statement was an accurate representation of my belief on the matter.

So... we screwed up.

Superman is NOT a million times more powerful than Thor. In my book, he is probably not even twice as powerful as Thor. Superman has more expansive powers than Thor, IMO, thanks to his vision powers, etc.

I also think they fight quite differently. Thor tends to be more of a brawny reactionary type, while Superman probably fights with a more strategic approach. Thor is more likely to cut loose with the full measure of his powers as he does not have the "dampers" on that power that Superman was raised with. Both qualities can be an advantage or disadvantage, depending on the circumstances.

If they fought ten times, neither would win all ten, or even seven, eight or nine battles, for that matter. Not anymore than the Miami Dolphins would beat the Jets ten games out of ten.

I apologize for any confusion.

DJ

http://www.comicboards.com/thor/view.php?trd=040223201106

that is the web site. In the interview that he was trying to clarify where he admits that supes is stronger and more powerful than thor but the magic thing will tips the scales to thor sie, but my question to that is even though for a while the magic weakness has been downplayed why would it hurt supes now. second thor usually goes all out with his powers while supes holds back constantly(not my words but Dan Jurgens) so would not that mean that supes if he doesnot hold back will destroy thor??

Great Post Superman Prime😄

Originally posted by kgkg
superman is not more powerful than Thor

superman is stonger , Thor is much more powerful ( his hammer)

^cosigns.

so jurgens AND busiek, eh. hmmmm . . .

🙂

and whirly, did some guy call you an idiot on the last page?? unbelieveable . . . 😠

Originally posted by leonidas
so jurgens AND busiek, eh. hmmmm . . .

🙂

looks like it theyare a real inspiration to me😄

<<and whirly, did some guy call you an idiot on the last page?? unbelieveable . . . >> 😠

Originally posted by leonidas
<<and whirly, did some guy call you an idiot on the last page?? unbelieveable . . . >> 😠

🙁

Originally posted by leonidas
<<and whirly, did some guy call you an idiot on the last page?? unbelieveable . . . >> 😠

Oh its KEVIL he gets all cross cause I laughed at when he was saying he could beat up Batman and Daredevil 😂 Its still pretty damn funny😄

he got mad at you for that?? and he's calling YOU an idiot . . .

🙁

Originally posted by supermanprime
that is the web site. In the interview that he was trying to clarify where he admits that supes is stronger and more powerful than thor but the magic thing will tips the scales to thor sie, but my question to that is even though for a while the magic weakness has been downplayed why would it hurt supes now.

One, he never said in that interview that Superman was "stronger" than Thor. He said "more powerful." He then admitted he was joking. He later says that, in his opinion, Thor and Superman would either be 5/10 or 6/10 (Thor or Superman's favor, he doesn't say) if they were to fight 10 times (notice he says neither would win 10, 9, 8, or 7 times if they fought 10 times, thus either being 6/10 or dead even). It is generally accepted that Thor is able to reach strength levels beyond that of Superman's via strength enhancements.

Two, that was the first e-mail I posted on here last year to calm some of this pro-Superman tripe that litters the board. I think I posted it in response to a Martian Manhunter/Superman debate.

Three, magic strips Superman of his vulnerability. It does not turn him into jelly like kryptonite. That's why Mjolnir was able to make Superman bleed in JLA vs. Avengers. That's why Shazam's magical lightning made Superman's nose and ears bleed in Kingdom Come. It does not "hurt" him directly; it makes him vulnerable to being hurt.

if i am more powerful than my counterpart should not the battle go to me. you know what NEVER i will grant you the whole magic stripping his invulnerability to attacks but it doesn't strip him of his powers like strenght and speed, being able to go so phase to phase through energy attacks shown earlier by avalonofthewind in his reply, again i can see thor winning the battle as well, i am not just being blind for my empathy for the man of steel but in my opinion i think more likely than not that the man of steel is more powerful than thor and therefore be able to defeat Blondy even with being susceptible to magic, Has he not before beaten magical beings/gods before??????

"Has he not before beaten magical beings/gods before??????"

Has Thor not defeated aliens before as well?

Prime, did you notice that Dan Jurgens did not say that Superman is necessarily "more powerful" than Thor either? He said Superman man has "more expansive" powers than Thor, and I'm willing to bet he was referencing Superman and Thor without Mjolnir.

Mjolnir by itself (with Thor using it, I mean) is way more versatile than Superman.

Originally posted by Never
Prime, did you notice that Dan Jurgens did not say that Superman is necessarily "more powerful" than Thor either? He said Superman man has "more expansive" powers than Thor, and I'm willing to bet he was referencing Superman and Thor without Mjolnir.

Mjolnir by itself (with Thor using it, I mean) is way more versatile than Superman.

Your confused😄 let me help😄 Context is the key and as far as I see the context Jurgens is using is a battle between the two. Why would Thor not have his hammer, oh thats right, he would. "Pro Superman tripe". I see, an opinion that does not agree with yours is tripe, like the Cambridge dictionary, is dimissable. Interesting.
I guess your probably going to tell me to bite my dick again like last time😄
Jurgens context is obvious, in Superman Primes balanced post, he notes Supes weakness to magic, and states that this is downplayed these days, which it is. Thors vulnerability to bullets is also downplayed these days😄 at least according to people on this board. So in conclusion one mans tripe is a cows stomach lining.

Keep the faith😄

Stay Whirly🤘

Originally posted by leonidas
he got mad at you for that?? and he's calling YOU an idiot . . .

🙁

I know its pretty funny, almost as funny as being told to eat my dick etc by this guy "Never"😄

Kids on the forum Leo😄

Keep the faith🙂

Stay Whirly🤘

<<I know its pretty funny, almost as funny as being told to eat my dick etc by this guy "Never"
Kids on the forum Leo
Keep the faith
Stay Whirly>>

that's why this board needs guys like us. to light the way . . .

😄

eat your dick? damn . . . 🙁

Originally posted by Never
Prime, did you notice that Dan Jurgens did not say that Superman is necessarily "more powerful" than Thor either? He said Superman man has "more expansive" powers than Thor, and I'm willing to bet he was referencing Superman and Thor without Mjolnir.

Mjolnir by itself (with Thor using it, I mean) is way more versatile than Superman.

Let's us think about that statement-how else does thor become thor through the mystical power of mjolnir so i am assuming that it is with the mystical hammer that Dan Jurgens is referring to. second more 'expansive powers" that means that supes has the potential to do more than thor can do-just my assumption, again just trying to talk about this in a fair and balanced way-thor has his magic which can hurt supes but again it will not strip him of his other powers which are more "expansive" than thor whatever that means to you

Originally posted by Never
Prime, did you notice that Dan Jurgens did not say that Superman is necessarily "more powerful" than Thor either? He said Superman man has "more expansive" powers than Thor, and I'm willing to bet he was referencing Superman and Thor without Mjolnir.

Mjolnir by itself (with Thor using it, I mean) is way more versatile than Superman.

Mjolnir is extremely powerful...problem is that it is a weapon than can be used by those who are worthy...including Supes and WW.

Supes can grab the hammer (already has actually) and clock Thor with his own weapon.