Thor vs Superman

Started by jasofisc453 pages

Originally posted by Avlon
You mean THIS guy? Mongul does have superspeed as well.

🙂 He was embarrassed.

sooooooooooooooo where does it say that mongul has superspeed again????? soooo what the crap are you talking about i never claimed the mongul should be able to compete with supes only that because of comics he does time to time and just because though a fanboy's eye you can't see that doesn't make me wrong. Your right mongul was embarrassed but for some crazy reason he has held his own with a much power supes and a wonder woman that could take him out in a sec. as well. It's not fair to only use the most impressive feats of the character you like and the least of the other.

Originally posted by batdude123
REally??

Sweet lord... doh

Please, stop... you're embarrassing yourself.

You're right. I wanna say this heat vision blast took about.... oh... six or seven hours to reach the guy.

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/5001/supes8cz.jpg

I mean, no time frame was specifically given, even though it DID happen within the span of a panel.

I'm teh smarterest!!!11 🙁

Ignoring = desperation = you can't even respond.

Still waiting for the evidence suggesting it took Superman hours to build the city.

Honestly, that's about as justified as my above statement.

Ok, it's gotten so bad that it's to the point of trolling already... 😘

Originally posted by jasofisc
sooooooooooooooo where does it say that mongul has superspeed again????? soooo what the crap are you talking about i never claimed the mongul should be able to compete with supes only that because of comics he does time to time and just because though a fanboy's eye you can't see that doesn't make me wrong. Your right mongul was embarrassed but for some crazy reason he has held his own with a much power supes and a wonder woman that could take him out in a sec. as well. It's not fair to only use the most impressive feats of the character you like and the least of the other.

Superspeed has been a part of Monguls basic powerset since the precrisis days. Also, a wall of text makes it difficult to read your response.

Don't get mad at me because the comic made you look foolish. Next time, try debating about characters you know something about.

Originally posted by Newjak
Inferences mean jack. Silver Surfer was shown as a blur which infers superspeed, but since according to most Superman supporters in this thread means that since a specific speed was not given therefore the speed at which SS was going in null in void.

Therefore Superman's city building, which also does not give a quantifiable account of the event falls under the same treatment. Meaning that since no time was given I can substitute how long I think it took him.

So it took him hours 😉

what you don't understand Newjak (well you probley do) is that their is a huge huge dc bais on this forum the reason they use for superspeed for one character from dc doesn't apply to a marvel one. While all the low end feats for thor count only the highest most riduculus feats cout for supes. What can I say these guys make thor soud like a more retarted solomon grundy with a home depo hammer and supes like the second comming.

Originally posted by Newjak
And yes my claim of him taking hours to build a city is just as justified as yours thank you for realizing that. 🙂

No, I said your claim was just as justified as me saying Superman's heat vision took 6 or 7 hours to reach his target in that panel I showed. In other words, your statement is = to shit. I'm sorry a specified time frame has to be given in every single scenario in a comic book before your common sense kicks in. 🙁

Anyway, I think this sums it up nicely...

Originally posted by Soljer
You're upset because you've absolutely no excuses left. We understand.

Doesn't mean you need to act like a moron.

Originally posted by Soljer
No one alleged that the feat was 'null and void.'

You see, most posters have this little thing chilling in our heads called common sense.

In the Surfer scenario, there's no reason to believe the Surfer was going any faster than a few mach - meaning that, while an impressive reaction feat for Thor, it's meaningless when compared to Superman's combat speed.

In the city-building scenario, there's no reason to believe that hours had passed.

You're upset because you've absolutely no excuses left. We understand.

Doesn't mean you need to act like a moron.

You know what Einstein says about your Common Sense.

"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen."

And your prejudices about Superman beating Thor are showing 😉

What about Thor's new mystical abilities Batdude? Who ever said that a conflict between Thor with the Odinforce vs Superman ever had to become physical? Odin polymorphed Mangogs entire planet into a single entity. It is true that Superman could defeat Thor before he gained his fathers powers, but that was then.

"Thor's Powers and abilities"

Thor is the Norse god of thunder and lightning. Like all Asgardians, Thor is not truly immortal but relies upon periodic consumption of the Golden Apples of Idun to sustain his lifespan, which to date has lasted many millennia. The strongest of the Norse gods, Thor has performed feats such as lifting a portion of the World Serpent, hurling the Odinsword, an enormous mystical blade, through a Celestial, and matching other beings of enormous strength, such as the Hulk and Hercules. If pressed in battle, Thor is capable of entering into a state known as the "Warrior's Madness", which will temporarily increase his strength tenfold. He also possesses virtually inexhaustible godly stamina, high resistance to physical injury (eg. rocketfire, falls from orbital heights) and superhuman speed and reflexes.

Thor is a superb hand-to-hand combatant and has mastered a number of weapons such as the war hammer, sword, and mace. He is also very cunning and intuitive in battle, with many centuries of experience. Thor possesses two items that assist him in combat: the Belt of Strength, and his mystical hammer Mjolnir. The former item doubles his strength, while the second is used for control of his weather abilities; flight; energy projection and absorption; dimensional apertures; matter manipulation, as well as the most powerful of his offensives: the God Blast, and the Anti-Force.

After his resurrection, Thor has accepted his heritage as a child of the Elder Goddess Gaea, and has demonstrated the ability to create country-spanning chasms in the Earth itself.

After Odin's death, Thor inherited his father's power, the Odinforce. Thor was then capable of feats such as reconstructing the Earth's Moon, willing the Asgardian monster Mangog into nothingness, successfully challenging and defeating an alliance of Surtur and Ymir and by focusing his entire power into a hammer throw even decapitated a Desak-occupied Destroyer. Thor later briefly acquired mastery of the Runes, and a level of enlightenment that allowed him to free Asgard from the eternal cycle of Ragnarok, becoming even more powerful than his father.

Supermans powers are on a different level than Odins power, this should not be hard to see.

Originally posted by Avlon
Superspeed has been a part of Monguls basic powerset since the precrisis days. Also, a wall of text makes it difficult to read your response.

Don't get mad at me because the comic made you look foolish. Next time, try debating about characters you know something about.

um you obvously don't know anything about mongul since the mongul in your scans is the orgnals son the pre-crisis mongul >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> current mongul wow I really can't believe you just wrote that. and when does it ever state that in post crisis people say the same about hulk doesn't make it true. I'm not mad at you at all and I seem to know more about these characters then you judging by your post.

Originally posted by Newjak
You know what Einstein says about your Common Sense.

"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen."

And your prejudices about Superman beating Thor are showing 😉

"Sound practical judgment that is independent of specialized knowledge, training, or the like; normal native intelligence."

Something you clearly lack.

Especially since you admit that heat vision taking eight hours to travel a dozen feet is equally rational as your supposition.

Originally posted by batdude123
No, I said your claim was just as justified as me saying Superman's heat vision took 6 or 7 hours to reach his target in that panel I showed. In other words, your statement is = to shit. I'm sorry a specified time frame has to be given in every single scenario in a comic book before your common sense kicks in. 🙁

Anyway, I think this sums it up nicely...

Apparently for you if the feat isn't quantified then we must assume the worst about the feat. Therefore Superman's one panel showed him taking hours to build a City.

By the way I'm not the one who has yet to show why Superman must have built said city in seconds. I'm still waiting on you to show that a panel must equate to seconds.

Orgasm so or something; It's Kryptonian.

😎

so what I seen from the post here is that newjak is a fanboy because he doesn't think that Thor with the odin force (galaxy destroying) would be beat by supes like a little girl with big ears fighting mike tyson

Originally posted by Soljer
"Sound practical judgment that is independent of specialized knowledge, training, or the like; normal native intelligence."

Something you clearly lack.

Especially since you admit that heat vision taking eight hours to travel a dozen feet is equally rational as your supposition.

when did he admit the heat vison thing????

Originally posted by jasofisc
so what I seen from the post here is that newjak is a fanboy because he doesn't think that Thor with the odin force (galaxy destroying) would be beat by supes like a little girl with big ears fighting mike tyson
no, at least Im not calling him that. I just find it funny he thinks that in that scan Superman took hours to build a city when it certainly looks like he did it within moments.

Originally posted by jasofisc
so what I seen from the post here is that newjak is a fanboy because he doesn't think that Thor with the odin force (galaxy destroying) would be beat by supes like a little girl with big ears fighting mike tyson

No, the general consensus is that newjak is a moron because he asserts things with no logical rationale to support it.

I never once said that Superman would beat current Thor like a redheaded step child.

Hell, to my memory, I don't think I've ever explicitly said that Superman'd win this fight, period.

Originally posted by jasofisc
when did he admit the heat vison thing????

Originally posted by batdude123

You're right. I wanna say this heat vision blast took about.... oh... six or seven hours to reach the guy.

Still waiting for the evidence suggesting it took Superman hours to build the city.

Honestly, that's about as justified as my above statement.


Originally posted by Newjak

And yes my claim of him taking hours to build a city is just as justified as yours thank you for realizing that. 🙂

Originally posted by Master-Borg
no, at least Im not calling him that. I just find it funny he thinks that in that scan Superman took hours to build a city when it certainly looks like he did it within moments.

true true I think he is just frusterated that his point aren't being seen clearly

Originally posted by h1a8
Superman vs. Thor is non-canon
Also fights in comics most likely won't happen if the two characters were actually real. That is why this is a forum fight and not a comic one. And in a forum fight a character can use his speed every step of the way.

And your logic fails. You can have the power of TOAA but if you are both slow and are able to die or be koed then you would lose to someone who can operate faster than you can.

How can a statue even have a chance against anyone?
Hell, bullets and lightning are statues to Superman.
I don't care if that statue has the power to destroy a multiverse. You will lose everytime.

Ok let me get this straight are you trying to say that Superman would beat anyone as long as he is far faster than them no matter how far above him in power they might be.Like for example Galactus he is leagues above Superman in power yet he has to my knowledge no speed feats whatsoever and has been killed and koed and so would Superman beat him as well.

Originally posted by Soljer
"Sound practical judgment that is independent of specialized knowledge, training, or the like; normal native intelligence."

Something you clearly lack.

Especially since you admit that heat vision taking eight hours to travel a dozen feet is equally rational as your supposition.

You know instead of attacking me.

Perhaps it would be better to attack the validity of my statements on the matter. Explain why my statements are wrong, why must Superman's city building feat have taken seconds and not hours.

Mind you any explanation you give must prove beyond all shadow of doubt that Superman did it.

Originally posted by Soljer

it appears your right crap i just skip over when it looks like someone is rambleing