Originally posted by xJLxKing
Because Thor, or Superman>Hulk
Yea, overall, Superman is superior, but in terms of raw strength Hulk has him beat. Yes, Superman starts out a lot stronger, but the Hulk can reach and surpass his level.
The fact that Thor can stalemate Hulk for hours on end, in pure strength, is a ridiculous feat of strength. The Hulk's anger and strength would be rising constantly, but Thor didn't move an inch.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Yea, overall, Superman is superior, but in terms of raw strength Hulk has him beat. Yes, Superman starts out a lot stronger, but the Hulk can reach and surpass his level.The fact that Thor can stalemate Hulk for hours on end, in pure strength, is a ridiculous feat of strength. The Hulk's anger and strength would be rising constantly, but Thor didn't move an inch.
Theres nothing to suggest that Supes or Thor starts off stronger than hulk. Hulk strength feat (without the aid of flight) outweighs both combatants. Is there any strength feat that either of them have that surpass hulk lifting up a mountain. I'm not asking for any strength feat that requires flight, I'm asking for standing up strength feat.
Trust me, you wont find any.
Physically Hulk>Thor and Supes and knowledge of each character should tell you this.
I dont know why people is using thor getting beat up by hulk as a low showing because superman has been getting owned his entire career by people weaker than hulk so THAT discussion is pointless.
Originally posted by carver9
Theres nothing to suggest that Supes or Thor starts off stronger than hulk. Hulk strength feat (without the aid of flight) outweighs both combatants. Is there any strength feat that either of them have that surpass hulk lifting up a mountain. I'm not asking for any strength feat that requires flight, I'm asking for standing up strength feat.Trust me, you wont find any.
Physically Hulk>Thor and Supes and knowledge of each character should tell you this.
I dont know why people is using thor getting beat up by hulk as a low showing because superman has been getting owned his entire career by people weaker than hulk so THAT discussion is pointless.
Originally posted by carver9
Theres nothing to suggest that Supes or Thor starts off stronger than hulk. Hulk strength feat (without the aid of flight) outweighs both combatants. Is there any strength feat that either of them have that surpass hulk lifting up a mountain. I'm not asking for any strength feat that requires flight, I'm asking for standing up strength feat.Trust me, you wont find any.
Physically Hulk>Thor and Supes and knowledge of each character should tell you this.
I dont know why people is using thor getting beat up by hulk as a low showing because superman has been getting owned his entire career by people weaker than hulk so THAT discussion is pointless.
Dude. Hulk starts out at a base of around 100 tons. What do you mean there's nothing to suggest that Superman or Thor start out stronger?
That's ridiculous. That's why Abomination is able to smack him around, in the beginning. His strength is around twice Hulk's base or something along those lines.
At base, Hulk is around 100 tons, but he amps up quickly. The faster he amps depends on how angry he gets. Superman and Thor start out much, much, much stronger.
Thor being able to support the weight of half the planet, is a greater feat, than Hulk using leverage to support a part of the mountain in Secret Wars, to prevent, the cave in, if that's the feat you're referring too.
Physically he would be superior eventually.
As shown even despite the fact that Thor holds back the majority of his strength and power in his fights against the Hulk, he is still able to stalemate the Hulk despite his ever increasing strength, for entire hours. That's because he starts, his strength reserve is so vast and he starts out so much stronger, that despite Hulk's ever increasing strength, he still cannot overpower Thor, whether it's Mindless Hulk, or Savage Hulk, whether the battle is minutes long, or entire hours long. That's why the moment Thor realized that the Mindless Hulk was nothing but a beast and got serious, he sent him flying and dropped him in one blow.
What do you mean being physically beat down by Hulk? The Hulk has never, and I emphasize the never part, defeated Thor, much less beat him down. Thor has knocked the Hulk out on different occasions when the Hulk has never managed to put Thor down, in even hand to hand combat.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Wait a sec, you don't really think that Hulk starts out equal to the likes of Thor in strength do you? I'll freely admit that Hulk can hit Thor's level pretty quick when he's pressed to do so, but in the first seconds of the match, Thor's on a completely different level. Hulk may be able to support a mountain, but Thor's equal to Herc who can do this...
Damn 😠
The thing about this though IIIIIISSSS, Hulk has overpowered Hercules on numerous of occasions.
Thats a nice feat though, a very nice feat.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
c'mon goob, you and i know that feat there is nowhere near quantifiable or logical.
Yea. That just didn't make sense. I mean by holding up, the sky? I was like what the ****, when I read that. He should have held the Earth on his shoulders. Even that would have made sense.
Originally posted by psycho gundam
c'mon goob, you and i know that feat there is nowhere near quantifiable or logical.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Dude. Hulk starts out at a base of around 100 tons. What do you mean there's nothing to suggest that Superman or Thor start out stronger?That's ridiculous. That's why Abomination is able to smack him around, in the beginning. His strength is around twice Hulk's base or something along those lines.
At base, Hulk is around 100 tons, but he amps up quickly. The faster he amps depends on how angry he gets.
Thor being able to support the weight of half the planet, is a greater feat, than Hulk using leverage to support a part of the mountain in Secret Wars, to prevent, the cave in if that's the feat you're referring too.
Physically he should be superior eventually.
As shown even despite the fact that Thor holds back his strength and almost all of his power, he is still able to stalemate the Hulk despite his ever increasing strength, for entire hours. That's because he starts, out a lot stronger than Hulk. His strength reserve is so vast, that despite Hulk's ever increasing strength, he still cannot overpower Thor, whether it's Mindless Hulk, or Savage Hulk, whether the battle is minutes long, or entire hours long.
What do you mean being physically beat down by Hulk? The Hulk has never, and I emphasize the never part, defeated Thor, much less beat him down. Thor has knocked the Hulk out on different occasions when the Hulk has never managed to put Thor down, in even hand to hand combat.
Half of Savage hulk strength feats start off at base. The mountain that was thrown on him was base hulk strength. It happened so fast that the hulk didnt have time to amp his strength.
The strength feat with him holding away the anti matter bombs was a feat that was basically a caught off guard hulk feat.
Base hulk strength isnt close,to 100 ton level its above it and on panel proof proves this.
I agree with you on a lot of things rage but this is one that I'm not going to agree with you on.
Originally posted by carver9
Theres nothing to suggest that Supes or Thor starts off stronger than hulk. Hulk strength feat (without the aid of flight) outweighs both combatants. Is there any strength feat that either of them have that surpass hulk lifting up a mountain. I'm not asking for any strength feat that requires flight, I'm asking for standing up strength feat.
Thor's supported the weight of half a planet :/
Originally posted by Kris Blaze
Thor's supported the weight of half a planet :/
Was it a physical feat or was it hyperbole? If its hyperbole then lets not go there since I could easily bring up Beyonder saying hulk has unlimited strength and Thanos compared hulk physically to Champion who possessed the power gem (same champion that destroyed a planet with a punch).
On panel showings of actual lifting feats Hulk>>Thor and Supes.
Originally posted by carver9
Half of Savage hulk strength feats start off at base. The mountain that was thrown on him was base hulk strength. It happened so fast that the hulk didnt have time to amp his strength.The strength feat with him holding away the anti matter bombs was a feat that was basically a caught off guard hulk feat.
Base hulk strength isnt close to 100 ton level and on panel proof proves this.
I agree with you on a lot of things rage but this is one that I'm not going to agree with you on.
What do you mean half his strength feats start off base? Hulk amps almost instantly. The reason he turns into Hulk is because Bruce was angered, and that automatically feeds his rage.
He didn't actually lift or have the mountain dropped on him. He simply supported that cavern with leverage. That feat is really misinterpreted in my opinion. Also, wasn't that Professor Hulk? I don't remember.
Those Anti-Matter bombs feat, is also misinterpreted as I recall. I don't recall what, but I remember giving a summary on why, it's not nearly as impressive as some people believe. I should find that.
Anyways like I said. Hulk at base, starts out at a 100 tons. I even recall it being lower. I'm not sure. His strength amps constantly and his strength has shown to rise instantly on the occasion. It doesn't happen gradually. It can, but if needed, he jumps up levels, in moments. So saying he doesn't have enough time to up is off in my opinion.
You're misinterpreting the proof.
You should agree with me here. I'm always right. Just quote me and you'll never be wrong. Lol. 😱
Originally posted by darthgoober
Did he overpower him immediately, or did he take a minute to get mad? Like I said I freely acknowledge that he can hit Herc/Thor's level quickly, but he doesn't start on that level.
Well from what I have seen of hulk and Herc fight, Hulk always tend to have the upper hand, even in the beginning.
Originally posted by darthgoober
Did he overpower him immediately, or did he take a minute to get mad? Like I said I freely acknowledge that he can hit Herc/Thor's level quickly, but he doesn't start on that level.
Then again...it was written by Pak, so...
Originally posted by carver9
Was it a physical feat or was it hyperbole? If its hyperbole then lets not go there since I could easily bring up Beyonder saying hulk has unlimited strength and Thanos compared hulk physically to Champion who possessed the power gem (same champion that destroyed a planet with a punch).On panel showings of actual lifting feats Hulk>>Thor and Supes.
There is no limit to the Hulk's strength.
Thanos did not compare Hulk to the Champion in the way that they were equally powerful, but rather that the fight would be similar....
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/Thor%20comics/Thor140-15.jpg
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e156/marvelkris/Thor%20comics/Thor140-16.jpg
Right there.
