Thor vs Superman

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
It says there that his strength is rated in the 100 ton range, but his proven to exceed those limits. Which means that he starts out in the 100 ton range, but since he can increase his strength his exceeds those limits. Green Scar's base is even higher than Savage Hulks. Green Scar has focused rage, thanks to Hiroim. He has the focus needed to accomplish his task yet remain in control over himself.

That entire comment about hulks strength was based off of his base strength, I dont know where you get the other part from. Base hulk strength exceed the 100 ton range.

Originally posted by carver9
That entire comment about hulks strength was based off of his base strength, I dont know where you get the other part from. Base hulk strength exceed the 100 ton range.

What?

I stated that based on you're own scan, he is described in the Class 100 range, but has proven to exceed that, because, that's his base strength, but because of his ability to amp, his able to exceed his previous limits.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
If the Hulk was already in their range of strength the moment he transformed, he would beat the crap out of Thor already. That's just common sense. Just think about it.

Naah, I disagree because its thor. Thor has fought plenty of people that're stronger than him and did just fine; strength isnt alway the key.

Thor has done pretty good against Mindless hulk, the same hulk that took on the entire avengers, including Iron man and Herc. Its pretty clear that Mindless hulk is leagues above thor in strength and durability.

Thor is just that damn good.

But it's a comic, common sense does not apply all the time. It's the same reason that Thor does not unleash all of his exotic powers from the start of a battle. He needs to, could save him a lot of pain.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
What?

I stated that based on you're own scan, he is described in the Class 100 range, but has proven to exceed that, because, that's his base strength, but because of his ability to amp, his able to exceed his previous limits.

I'm seeing different from that scan but just forget that I posted it because this would be an ongoing debate, basically pointless. Again, the only reason I brought anything up involving the hulk is due to the fact that getting beat up by hulk isnt a low showing since hulk is>>Supes and thor physically. His physical stats has no limit and supes has falling by people much weaker than hulk.

Now if someone wants to do a battle zone on strength feats and hulk being physically stronger than konvikt, titus, despero, and doomsday, we can but its kind of hard to back up anything when hulk has the feats proving that hes stronger.

Originally posted by carver9
Naah, I disagree because its thor. Thor has fought plenty of people that're stronger than him and did just fine; strength isnt alway the key.

Thor has done pretty good against Mindless hulk, the same hulk that took on the entire avengers, including Iron man and Herc. Its pretty clear that Mindless hulk is leagues above thor in strength and durability.

Thor is just that damn good.

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Thor has literally matched him in strength. Pure strength nothing else. He matched him in pure strength, for entire hours after a prolonged fight. If Hulk started out on Thor's level, he should have overpowered, Thor in minutes, as he constantly amps. It had nothing with Thor being good, it was nothing but pure raw strength. They were locked dead even.

That's not even taking into account, that Thor holds back, his strength in fights with Hulk.

So how can you tell me with a straight face, that Hulk, starts out on Thor's level? Were all their fights PIS then? Seriously....

Mindless Hulk is leagues above Thor in strength and durability?

Says who? Did you see their fight? They went toe to toe. Thor was taking all of his blows, and not moving an inch, and the moment he got serious, and stopped holding back to an extent like he always does, he sent him flying with a single blow.

Taking on the Avengers along with Hercules, doesn't mean his leagues above Thor. As we all know, that although Hercules is portrayed as Thor's equal in their fights, outside of them he is not shown to be on his level consistently. I mean, Thor manhandled Ares with a 3 times strength/power amp, while Ares stalemated Hercules recently.

The fight with Mindless Hulk should be all the prove we need. Hercules along with the others got manhandled, while Thor, was able go toe to toe, alone in hand to hand.

Originally posted by G-Mafia
But it's a comic, common sense does not apply all the time. It's the same reason that Thor does not unleash all of his exotic powers from the start of a battle. He needs to, could save him a lot of pain.

He doesn't need to. That's why his able to go toe to toe with him just fine with his own raw strength, while still holding back.

Thor doesn't do that because it's likely to kill a LOT of human beings.

At least that's what he told Tarene when she started using energy-blasts on regular robots.

Originally posted by carver9
I'm seeing different from that scan but just forget that I posted it because this would be an ongoing debate, basically pointless. Again, the only reason I brought anything up involving the hulk is due to the fact that getting beat up by hulk isnt a low showing since hulk is>>Supes and thor physically. His physical stats has no limit and supes has falling by people much weaker than hulk.

Now if someone wants to do a battle zone on strength feats and hulk being physically stronger than konvikt, titus, despero, and doomsday, we can but its kind of hard to back up anything when hulk has the feats proving that hes stronger.

Well, just read it again man. Doesn't it say he is ranked as a Class 100 and is shown to surpass the limit? That's because he starts out at the 100 ton range, but amps up to levels way beyond that.

Eventually, yes Hulk should be able to surpass Thor and Superman physically, although in all of their fights, Hulk has yet been able to defeat Thor physically.

Superman doesn't fall to people much weaker to Hulk unless circumstances are involved.

Depends on the incarnation of Despero and Doomsday? Some would handle Hulk, some would get handled eventually.

Konvict could take Hulk and win.

Someone should post some Superman strength stuff now. 😛

Because with the exception of the Hulk #440 strength deadlock, I had forgotten about Thor stalemating Hulk in strength for hours at a time. Hell of a feat.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Someone should post some Superman strength stuff now. 😛

Because with the exception of the Hulk #440 strength deadlock, I had forgotten about Thor stalemating Hulk in strength for hours at a time. Hell of a feat.

Yea, it is pretty crazy. He was able to stalemate him for hours on end, without budging despite the fact that Hulk is constantly increasing in strength. Don't forget that he actually restrains himself against Hulk. He holds back yet is still able to accomplish something like that. He has easily one of the greatest reserves of strength, period.

Also taking it account Thor never even showed signs of tiring or stopping, that's also a crazy endurance feat as well.

With feats, like this, I honestly don't see how Superman could be stronger.

Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
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Thor has literally matched him in strength. Pure strength nothing else. He matched him in pure strength, for entire hours after a prolonged fight. If Hulk started out on Thor's level, he should have overpowered, Thor in minutes, as he constantly amps. It had nothing with Thor being good, it was nothing but pure raw strength. They were locked dead even.

That's not even taking into account, that Thor [b]holds back, his strength in fights with Hulk.

So how can you tell me with a straight face, that Hulk, starts out on Thor's level? Were all their fights PIS then? Seriously....

Mindless Hulk is leagues above Thor in strength and durability?

Says who? Did you see their fight? They went toe to toe. Thor was taking all of his blows, and not moving an inch, and the moment he got serious, and stopped holding back to an extent like he always does, he sent him flying with a single blow.

Taking on the Avengers along with Hercules, doesn't mean his leagues above Thor. As we all know, that although Hercules is portrayed as Thor's equal in their fights, outside of them he is not shown to be on his level consistently. I mean, Thor manhandled Ares with a 3 times strength/power amp, while Ares stalemated Hercules recently.

The fight with Mindless Hulk should be all the prove we need. Hercules along with the others got manhandled, while Thor, was able go toe to toe, alone in hand to hand. [/B]

^ practice what you post

This is about the only prolonged strength feat of supes I can think of off the top of my head(im sure our resident dc experts could find more)stalemating Captain marvel in armwrestling for over 2 hourshttp://img442.imageshack.us/img442/6563/manoftomorrow4p224bg.jpg

Originally posted by shokosugi

Then what happens next? Thor gets back up.

Originally posted by vlaaad12345
This is about the only prolonged strength feat of supes I can think of off the top of my head(im sure our resident dc experts could find more)stalemating Captain marvel in armwrestling for over 2 hourshttp://img442.imageshack.us/img442/6563/manoftomorrow4p224bg.jpg

Also, they're clearly not straining as they were smiling and probably not even trying to win, as it was for charity.

A for effort, though. Nice scan to dig up. 🙂

It says now in the second hour so that should be 2 hours or more.

Originally posted by Enyalus
Doesn't "into the second hour" mean...beyond the 1 hour mark?

Also, they're clearly not straining as they were smiling and probably not even trying to win, as it was for charity.

A for effort, though. Nice scan to dig up. 🙂

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Thor's arm wrestling with Hercules, was a much better feat than this. Just saying....

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Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
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Thor's arm wrestling with Hercules, was a much better feat than this. Just saying....