Superman > Thor . . .By a lot?
Google Superman Lifts. (Since I can't link pictures.) 4 Quintillion tons is 3x at least stronger than his norm.
. . . 200/3 ? Hell. . .200/6, 10, 100, 300, and Superman lifts more than Thor.
In Action Comics #782 (October, 2001) flew threw the sun and moved a planet.
He flies at speeds much faster than the speed of light, and has been known to. . .travel back through time. . .due to flying so fast. . .
Let me know when Thor's moves that fast.
Re: Superman > Thor . . .By a lot?
Originally posted by UrzaPlaneswalke
Google Superman Lifts. (Since I can't link pictures.) 4 Quintillion tons is 3x at least stronger than his norm.
. . . 200/3 ? Hell. . .200/6, 10, 100, 300, and Superman lifts more than Thor.
In Action Comics #782 (October, 2001) flew threw the sun and moved a planet.
He flies at speeds much faster than the speed of light, and has been known to. . .travel back through time. . .due to flying so fast. . .
Let me know when Thor's moves that fast.
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Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusI am completely serious. Thor was not out of the fight. Hulk was hitting him very hardly and the combination of Thor momentarily affected him. You cannot just act like he was depowered simply because you hated how the writer chose to handle this story.
eerAre you serious?
Thor needed a ten times amp in strength, just to survive and hold his own in this fight. Thor in the past would stalemate Hulk hours on end, on his own strength and not budge an inch whether it was Savage Hulk or Mindless Hulk.
With Mjolnir in hand, he has smacked the Hulk around in the past. In the past the moment he got serious and stopped holding back like he usually does to an extent, he sent Mindless Hulk flying. Even in that issue he states he holds back his power/strength in his previous fights with the Hulk, yet here going all out, fighting to the death, with Mjolnir in hand, and with a 10 ten times amp, and all he was doing is holding his own?
For god sakes, some cold water, and a punch from Hulk was able to seriously stun him.
Even the act of catching Mjolnir return to him was an actual effort.
Apparently an explosion of that size would have killed him when his tanked explosions equivalent to an exploding Sun, blasts from Galactus, planet destroying attacks, physically unharmed. Hell, the simple shock wave of the explosion, blew Thor away, like a rag doll.
If you honestly, think that was Thor at full power, then you better read some more Thor.
Unlike Thor Hulk amps himself through anger and considering how pissedHulk was so it's no surprise he was taking everything thrown his way. Hulk has always been able to trade blows with Thor so I cannot see what problem you have here.
You do realize that Hulk gets stronger with anger right? Hulk was obviously seething with rage at the point they both lost it and were foaming out the mouth wanting to kill each other. Thor usually always talks throughout most of his battles. You do realize that right? I seem to know Thor a little better than you. The fact that he wasn't giving a speech here and just pounding away shows how serious both were.
Thor recalled it so fast and so hard it actually stung him. That was the point of that comment. Their battle was so ferocious even the mighty Thor didn't spew forth one of his speeches during battle. This battle was all about unleashing their wrath upon one another. Had it kept going on like this Thor would have fallen not the Hulk.
Thor was apparently killed by an explosion in future imperfect. Writers one minute can have Thor die due to an explosion and the next have him destroy an entire planet. We don't even know if it would have killed Thor, but the Hulk sure seemed to think so and quickly rocked Thor into the air. It really didn't even phase Thor that much and was only a momentary reprieve from battle.
You cannot claim Thor was depowered when everything pointed against it.
You claim to be this Thor expert when I do know enough about Thor while you just fail to give the Hulk the respect he deserves.
Re: Superman > Thor . . .By a lot?
Originally posted by UrzaPlaneswalke
Google Superman Lifts. (Since I can't link pictures.) 4 Quintillion tons is 3x at least stronger than his norm.
. . . 200/3 ? Hell. . .200/6, 10, 100, 300, and Superman lifts more than Thor.
In Action Comics #782 (October, 2001) flew threw the sun and moved a planet.
He flies at speeds much faster than the speed of light, and has been known to. . .travel back through time. . .due to flying so fast. . .
Let me know when Thor's moves that fast.
Lemme just say that for the first part, that was a non-canon, alternate universe Superman. For the second, not only was Superman amped but that "planet" weighed less than the moon seeing as how it was Pluto. And for the third, not without outside aid or post-COIE.
That is all.
Re: Re: Superman > Thor . . .By a lot?
Originally posted by Enyalus
Inititally, I didn't know how to reply to this post without resorting to swearing and/or flaming...Lemme just say that for the first part, that was a non-canon, alternate universe Superman. For the second, not only was Superman amped but that "planet" weighed less than the moon seeing as how it was Pluto. And for the third, not without outside aid or post-COIE.
That is all.
hysterical
I lol'd, so hard when I read this for some reason.
Originally posted by quanchi112
I am completely serious. Thor was not out of the fight. Hulk was hitting him very hardly and the combination of Thor momentarily affected him. You cannot just act like he was depowered simply because you hated how the writer chose to handle this story.
I never said he was out of the fight, but the fact that some cold water, and a punch from Hulk, can put him on his knees, and have such an effect on Thor, should be a testament to the fact he was not at full power.
Thor in the past, has been able to stalemate an enraged Hulk for entire hours on end, without showing any signs of tiring, while restraining his strength and power like he usually does. In the past Thor has stalemated, the Hulk in strength and in a brawl while holding back, and the moment he has Mjolnir in hand, he knocks the Hulk around like a rag doll. He said, Mindless Hulk in an enraged state, flying in one blow, the moment he realized he was nothing more than an animal, and it was safe to put him down.
Yet here, Thor needed a ten times amp in his strength, had Mjolnir in hand, and was going all out, and was only barely holding his own?
sly
You’re going to ignore all that?
Originally posted by quanchi112
Unlike Thor Hulk amps himself through anger and considering how pissedHulk was so it's no surprise he was taking everything thrown his way. Hulk has always been able to trade blows with Thor so I cannot see what problem you have here.
Yes in a fist fight he has been able to trade blows. The Hulk despite his ever increasing strength has never been able to do anything more than stalemate Thor in pure strength and in brawl, whether it was Mindless, or Savage, whether it was moments, or hours on end, and that’s with Thor restraining his strength as he always does. With Mjolnir in hand, Thor is capable of beating the hell out of Hulk as shown. He has knocked him around like a rag doll in the past.
Here Thor needed all of his powers and a ten times amp in strength just to hold his own.
You are a grown man not a child. Just because something is not as obvious as it usually is in comics, doesn’t mean it isn’t true. Look at the examples. You should be able to interpret the situation and come up with logical conclusions based on the evidence shown.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You do realize that Hulk gets stronger with anger right? Hulk was obviously seething with rage at the point they both lost it and were foaming out the mouth wanting to kill each other. Thor usually always talks throughout most of his battles. You do realize that right? I seem to know Thor a little better than you. The fact that he wasn't giving a speech here and just pounding away shows how serious both were.
I realize that Hulk gets stronger with anger, but Thor has been able to handle that in the past just fine. The fact that Thor was going all out, yet needed a ten times amp in strength, and Mjolnir in hand just to hold his own, should point to the fact that Thor, wasn’t anywhere near his normal levels of power. Dude, I know that Thor constantly talks throughout his battles, and yet here he was foaming at the mouth, because the berserker rage/warrior madness, was taking over him, so he wasn’t much more than a blood crazy animal.
What exactly is you’re point here?
What’s any of that supposed to prove?
If you knew Thor a little better than I did, then I wouldn’t be having this discussion with you.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor recalled it so fast and so hard it actually stung him. That was the point of that comment. Their battle was so ferocious even the mighty Thor didn't spew forth one of his speeches during battle. This battle was all about unleashing their wrath upon one another. Had it kept going on like this Thor would have fallen not the Hulk.
Dude, Thor has thrown Mjolnir at speeds faster than light and recalled it back, how fast and hard Mjolnir would hit at those speeds should make the speed threw Mjolnir there rather insignificant and those speeds did not do so much as phase Thor, yet here he yelled, at the force of the impact? Lulz….
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thor was apparently killed by an explosion in future imperfect. Writers one minute can have Thor die due to an explosion and the next have him destroy an entire planet. We don't even know if it would have killed Thor, but the Hulk sure seemed to think so and quickly rocked Thor into the air. It really didn't even phase Thor that much and was only a momentary reprieve from battle.
We have a phrase for that; it’s called plot induced stupidity. The fact that the writer implied that such an explosion could kill Thor should also be a testament to how much of his actual power he had. I mean seriously, that type of explosion kill Thor? If you honestly think that’s how much Thor can survive, at his full level of power, than I can’t help you….
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Originally posted by quanchi112
You cannot claim Thor was depowered when everything pointed against it.
And what would that everything be? Exactly what pointed against the fact that Thor was at full power?
Based on what I’m seeing everything pointed to him being depowered. The fact that he needed a ten times amp in strength, was going all out, had Mjolnir in hand and could barely hold his own, would have been killed by such a level of explosion, was apparently so depended on air, and was brought to his knees by a combination of cold water and a punch from Hulk all point to him being depowered.
One moment his nothing but a mortal, and then a few sparks of lightning and you assume he was at full power?
Originally posted by quanchi112
You claim to be this Thor expert when I do know enough about Thor while you just fail to give the Hulk the respect he deserves.
Don’t put words in my mouth. When have I claimed to be a Thor expert?
I give the Hulk all the respect he deserves. I have all of the Hulk’s appearances, and I know a great deal about the Hulk. You’re the one who doesn’t give Thor the respect he deserves here.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yeah, whenever you have time there, sunshine. It's 100 percent accurate while it's obvious Thor is your favorite character hence the spinning you're doing.
It’s far from a 100% accurate, quannybun. It’s the exact opposite of accurate. I’m not doing any spinning. I am coming to a logical conclusion based on the evidence presented by the issue in question. Thor is my favorite Marvel character, while Wally West, is my favorite DC character. I like them both just as much.
