I'm not really sure what to think of that line. Maybe it's because I'm not entirely objective.
On one hand, it's very damning, on the other, Thor's comment of "Did you now" and then the proceeding scene kind of sends mixed signals. Heck, the very notion that he can go toe to toe with an amped Hulk sends mixed signals.
Did he admit a truth that he isn't willing to accept? Not sure.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
I just hope Fraction doesn't pussy out and have Thor get beat down by Surfer because his gravely injured.
Not much point to the injury if he doesn't.
Usually, Thor vs Surfer (Or Hulk) leaves most fights inconclusive, or lets both characters have their moments... Sort of like any Superman vs Captain Marvel fight.
And they're put such effort into making Surfer into this near unstoppable herald lately, having Thor just beat him wouldn't be a good move...
Giving Thor his licks is fine, but Surfer should take something away from this fight too.
Originally posted by cdtm
Not much point to the injury if he doesn't.Usually, Thor vs Surfer (Or Hulk) leaves most fights inconclusive, or lets both characters have their moments... Sort of like any Superman vs Captain Marvel fight.
And they're put such effort into making Surfer into this near unstoppable herald lately, having Thor just beat him wouldn't be a good move...
Giving Thor his licks is fine, but Surfer should take something away from this fight too.
Surfer can win, but Thor should at the very least hold his own and give him a hell of a battle, gravely injured or not. Which is what I expect to happen. I just don't want any curve ball thrown in to help Surfer save face like he did with Hulk fans.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympus
Surfer can win, but Thor should at the very least hold his own and give him a hell of a battle, gravely injured or not. Which is what I expect to happen. I just don't want any curve ball thrown in to help Surfer save face like he did with Hulk fans.
What happened with Hulk?
Originally posted by Rage.Of.Olympusother than the distance between them, the hulk was relatively fine, and the part that makes it worse is that he of coarse will heal whatever was done to him.
the very notion that he can go toe to toe with an amped Hulk sends mixed signals.
thor looks like he's catching some z's though
Originally posted by the DarkoneWhen has Thor beaten Hulk ?
Worthy Hulk got KO and just woke up before reentering earths atmosphere, that's what I got from it. Thor saying he could never beat the hulk is contradiction on the highest level, Thor has beaten a regular Hulk in the past, that statement doesn't makes any sense.If anything Thor has shown he can take on two amp bricks and held his own and then some.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusHe wailed back and knocked him into orbit then passed out from the stress. Thor admitted his inferiority to the Hulk. Embrace second place.
Who gives a shit? Thor will probably be thrown a bone in the next issue. I just hope Fraction doesn't pussy out and have Thor get beat down by Surfer because his gravely injured.Thor didn't just battle field remove the Hulk. He went toe to toe, and overpowered him.
Still, I'm more than certain the population of Italy will hang on to that line, ignoring what Thor just accomplished.
Originally posted by cdtm
Not much point to the injury if he doesn't.Usually, Thor vs Surfer (Or Hulk) leaves most fights inconclusive, or lets both characters have their moments... Sort of like any Superman vs Captain Marvel fight.
And they're put such effort into making Surfer into this near unstoppable herald lately, having Thor just beat him wouldn't be a good move...
Giving Thor his licks is fine, but Surfer should take something away from this fight too.
Does Thor win via BFRing or soul suck 10/10?
Originally posted by quanchi112
Based off of cdtm argues Thor stamps his hammer on the ground immediately bfring his opponent. The manner in which he debates is utterly ridiculous.
Quanchi (And anyone who agrees with him), read the rules.
This is known as Character Inhibited Power. This applies to characters that have intelligence, like the Silver Surfer, Superman, and so on and so forth.As Bada said:
"It's a self imposed limitation in certain circumstances which there is concern for civilians and buildings for the most part. It's not stupidity, it's a limitation set until the threat exceeds a certain threshold."
What this means is that people like the Surfer and Superman and so on will not use the full extent of their powers if it will endanger civilians. It doesn't, though, mean they will fight like idiots. The character's personality is an integral part of the match and dictates how they will perform. This is the crux of the rules we've come up with. It doesn't come down to powers, it comes down to the man or woman that weilds them.
Nowhere does it say we presume because a character rarely uses his powers in a comic, that he won't use it here. It doesn't say we need to calculate percentages based on how often such a win occurs, or anything like that.. It only says that his character is intact, e.g. protecting innocent lives and such.
So yeah, if Thor has examples of immediately bfring opponents, why wouldn't he do it here? Who cares if he rarely does so in comics, if doing so here is the smart maneuver, and doesn't go against the core of his character?
Originally posted by cdtmIt seems jake already pwned you with your own post. Not powers alone the person who wields them.
Quanchi (And anyone who agrees with him), read the rules.Nowhere does it say we presume because a character rarely uses his powers in a comic, that he won't use it here. It doesn't say we need to calculate percentages based on how often such a win occurs, or anything like that.. It only says that his character is intact, e.g. protecting innocent lives and such.
So yeah, if Thor has examples of immediately bfring opponents, why wouldn't he do it here? Who cares if he rarely does so in comics, if doing so here is the smart maneuver, and doesn't go against the core of his character?
The part "It doesn't come down to powers, it comes down to the man or woman that weilds them." should also have been bolded.
Now please take a break and compose yourself.
On a sidenote if you want to argue based off a few feats and powersets alone cbr is the place for you.
Originally posted by JakeTheBank
The part [b]"It doesn't come down to powers, it comes down to the man or woman that weilds them." should also have been bolded. [/B]
That part doesn't negate the part that comes before it, though. It adds to it, perhaps, but the part in bold is the main crux of the argument.
There's no civilians in danger here, and they won't fight like idiots, and there's nothing being suggested that they haven't performed in comics, so what's the problem?
Originally posted by quanchi112
He wailed back and knocked him into orbit then passed out from the stress. Thor admitted his inferiority to the Hulk. Embrace second place.
Okay? He got into a battle with Odin, was chained, got blasted back to Earth by the Serpent and then got into an extended battle with an amped Hulk/Thing. The notion that Thor colliding with an amped Hulk, overpowering him and knocking him into orbit is anything but insanely impressive is asinine.
No, he at best admitted he could never beat the Hulk. That doesn't mean the Hulk would him either. I find Thor being inferior to the Hulk very hard to believe based on what happened between the pages.
Originally posted by Rage.Of.OlympusNot a low showing but an embarrassing one Hulk fans will lord over you for years. This is just worthy Hulk and even you yourself would have to admit wb I ain't holding back no more Hulk would cripple Thor in two panels. A longer fight has always favored the Hulk anyways due to his powerset recent issues aside so Thor admitting he can't beat the Hulk in a fight to the last man standing is something that shouldn't be news to you.
Okay? He got into a battle with Odin, was chained, got blasted back to Earth by the Serpent and then got into an extended battle with an amped Hulk/Thing. The notion that Thor colliding with an amped Hulk, overpowering him and knocking him into orbit is anything but insanely impressive is asinine.No, he at best admitted he could never beat the Hulk. That doesn't mean the Hulk would him either. I find Thor being inferior to the Hulk very hard to believe based on what happened between the pages.