Originally posted by BentleyI noticed many others use bias to counter my objectivity. It makes me sick.
I try to come fresh in each debate. Too many people argue with bias against some posters because it gets in their nerves, that's rarely for the best.You might've noticed that kind of stuff.
Originally posted by shadowknightHe uses some other abilities but he hits a lot harder.
Answer the question, since Thor going all out doesn't imply using all his exotic abilities, or just Thor hitting harder. Tell me what does it imply?
Really I invite to read Hel on Earth storyline or his last 2 pages of his fight just before he died when he fought DD. Or the Dan Jurgens Interview the creator of DD. SM doesn't need to regenarate as fast as the Hulk since he's harder to hurt, but given his durability advantage as long as he's under a yellow sun the end result is the same.Again read the Hel on Earth storyline and see falacy of your statement. [/B]
You admit the conditions need to be right in order to benefit him.
Game, set, match.
Originally posted by SabroYour fanfiction doesn't means its a fact. Superman has taken up people far more powerful in magic than Thor and punched their teeth in. Superman won, deal with it.
Well they made it so because instead of being knocked down from the hammer throw he would have a hole in his chest. 💃
Superman won but had to have his magical weakness removed which means they perfectly realized his inferiority in that fight. Glad to see how you would feel in reversed scenario thoSo you concede that Thor needs a weakness in Superman to win a fight, he isn't powerful enough to beat him on his own power. Good.😮💨
Originally posted by DARTH POWERThat's as likely as Superman T-voing Thor's ass.
At normal speeds?He'd be in risk of Thor godblasting him.
😕And a soulfire darkseid buster would take down Thor too.A godblast would take Supes down brah.
Originally posted by krisblaze
Energy drain is a rapid attack.
Originally posted by abhilegend
Surfer isn't as good as Parasite in absorbing power. Also Superman has resisted getting drained by far better energy absorbers than surfer.Superman helps in making another small sun and resists his energies getting drained by the sun-eater when others fared much worse
Originally posted by abhilegend
And the aftrementioned sun eater was so powerful that it needed the full power of Parallax to beat it.http://i.imgur.com/w2dlH5M.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/zEAUqt9.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/0IGXJnq.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/nshOPZ6.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/pD7Ul2f.jpgAnd it destroyed thousands of worlds, devouring light and heat was its main power.
http://i.imgur.com/QitVjYh.jpg
Superman still resisted being drained by it.
So, yeah. Not happening.
Superman is stronger, more durable, faster and likely more manoeuvrable if the fight was to reach the sky, but he does not want to be eating too many Mjolnir shots. Thor is the slight underdog as he is against Hulk imo but as ever his lightning is the potential trump card. It could turn the tide quickly if he catches Superman in a full on blast.
It's a shame Thor rarely actually fights like a god and instead is depicted more as a berserker warrior, because his powerset is amazing.
Originally posted by The Sorrow
If the two fought again in comics, people would more surprised if Thor won than if Hulk beatdown Thor imo.
In an entirely physical match? It'd be a good showing for Thor, but nothing above his pay grade to be honest. If they were all out Thor would get rid of Hulk in seconds (it happened in Fear Itself, by the way).
Thor's usually the slight underdog against Hulk, because he usually engages him hand to hand.
But Thor clearly has the greater power set, and has shown in the past that he can BFR Hulk if nothing else.
On the other hand Surfer's usually the underdog against Thor, whilst Hulk is always the underdog against Surfer, so they seem to have the whole Rock, Paper, Scissors thing going on with the big 3.
Originally posted by quanchi112Don't try to disagree with me while trying to appeal to my species pride! I won't fall for you Quan tricks. sneer
Superman's not that strong. That's dinosaur strength right there. Green.
Actually, I've always thought this match was mol even.
Originally posted by DARTH POWERThat's actually an apt way of looking at Marvel's big three.
Thor's usually the slight underdog against Hulk, because he usually engages him hand to hand.But Thor clearly has the greater power set, and has shown in the past that he can BFR Hulk if nothing else.
On the other hand Surfer's usually the underdog against Thor, whilst Hulk is always the underdog against Surfer, so they seem to have the whole Rock, Paper, Scissors thing going on with the big 3.
Hulk is rock. Rock SMASH scissors and paper! durhulk
Originally posted by Bentley
In an entirely physical match? It'd be a good showing for Thor, but nothing above his pay grade to be honest. If they were all out Thor would get rid of Hulk in seconds (it happened in Fear Itself, by the way).
Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Thor's usually the slight underdog against Hulk, because he usually engages him hand to hand.But Thor clearly has the greater power set, and has shown in the past that he can BFR Hulk if nothing else.
On the other hand Surfer's usually the underdog against Thor, whilst Hulk is always the underdog against Surfer, so they seem to have the whole Rock, Paper, Scissors thing going on with the big 3.
Originally posted by Bentley
In an entirely physical match? It'd be a good showing for Thor, but nothing above his pay grade to be honest. If they were all out Thor would get rid of Hulk in seconds (it happened in Fear Itself, by the way).
You're probably better off not answering people who consider Thor the underdog against the Hulk 😄
Somehow the green giant weasled his way into this discussion.
Originally posted by Bentley
In an entirely physical match? It'd be a good showing for Thor, but nothing above his pay grade to be honest. If they were all out Thor would get rid of Hulk in seconds (it happened in Fear Itself, by the way).
Hey carrying on the Thor teleprting discussion here as it's more appropriate:
Originally posted by Bentley
I think I've never heard about that teleporting to red sun strategy i a Thor vs Supes thread, nice thinking.Regarding the scans, we see energy comming from Thor's hammer a few panels before the actual teleporting, so while it was pretty fast I wouldn't say it's instantaneous.
I thought about that earlier myself, but they are still some nice arguments that I'm glad you brought.
Found a scan of a much more instantaneous teleport, but it's an old one:
Originally posted by ODGWhile traditionally, Thor's spun Mjolnir to create a whirling vortex in order to teleport, he can also just simply zap people and teleport them. Here, he zaps and teleports Ulik in Thor #279:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Mjolnir/ThorMjolnir95-Teleportation279.jpg
