Thor vs Superman

Originally posted by the Darkone
Thor is more versatile than Superman, they are pretty much even in the physicality department some people give Superman the edge in strength or Thor, but they are so close it's a wash, durability the same. It comes down to other abilities and powers and Thor smoke Superman, lets be real if Thor uses all of his abilities Superman would get dominated, as where Superman should be dominated by Darkseid but writers tend to water down Darkseid to make Superman look good.

Nice, CBR logic there.

Originally posted by the Darkone
Thor is more versatile than Superman, they are pretty much even in the physicality department some people give Superman the edge in strength or Thor, but they are so close it's a wash, durability the same. It comes down to other abilities and powers and Thor smoke Superman, lets be real if Thor uses all of his abilities Superman would get dominated, as where Superman should be dominated by Darkseid but writers tend to water down Darkseid to make Superman look good.

Originally posted by krisblaze
No, I mean Kang's bomb.

Which bomb again? If Kang has an universal busting bomb I'd definitively like to see scans.

Originally posted by shadowknight
Please, Please put the pipe down. JLA/Avengers has proven convincingly that SM is considerably Stronger and Tougher also.

Cool story bro.

That same crossover also proves Superman isn't speed blitzing Thor, and is "Just Barely" gonna take down Thor. And that's when Thor doesn't even use his most potent and powerful attacks or Surfer level Versatility.

Originally posted by h1a8
Thor either won't get a chance to whirl Mjolnir faster than light in order to for it to leave his hand at that speed or Superman would simply grab Thor like a rag doll and cause him to hit is own hammer. "Batters UP", Superman would say before hitting Mjolnir away with Thor as the bat.

Thor can't create illusions faster than a second. Superman can do billions of things to Thor within that second.

Superman can pop Thor before he does an omnidirectional blast. Thor's omnidirectional blast hasn't been proven of even being able to bother someone on Superman's level. Omnidirectional blasts are weaker than regular concentrated blasts. Superman can go intangible at any time avoiding an omnidirectional blast anyway.

Superman would hit Thor with a planet destroying punch before Thor moves an inch to attempt to drain him. Or Superman can avoid the blast that drains him. Also, even if Superman allows Thor to start draining, then the entire process would take at least several seconds. The first microsecond wouldn't do anything. Superman would basically still hit with the same force.

Superman can freeze Thor anytime he wants. Then proceed to get free hits.

Basically at full capacity, Thor would be a statue as Superman can talk, think, and move good distances withing a single nanosecond. Your logic only works if they are at similar speed or Superman sits there and allows Thor to do things.

LOL I'm not surprised all this BS is coming fro a guy who thinks Superman's even going to speed blitz Surfer before he can raise his hand.

But Freezing the god of thunder is stupid even for you.

And FYI Illusions are instantaneous as are Lightning Blasts.

It's funny how the Superman fanboys often argue that Superman will do things that he's never once done in comics.

Originally posted by Silent Master
It's funny how the Superman fanboys often argue that Superman will do things that he's never once done in comics.

LMAO. Like Thor fans aren't guilty of the same thing. Superman is much more likely to open up with a super-speed blitz than Thor is with a Godblast or an energy drain.

^both of those have been used several times.. What powers are being made up?

Originally posted by Bentley
Which bomb again? If Kang has an universal busting bomb I'd definitively like to see scans.

Originally posted by Star428
LMAO. Like Thor fans aren't guilty of the same thing. Superman is much more likely to open up with a super-speed blitz than Thor is with a Godblast or an energy drain.

Really, how about I list all the times that Thor has used the godblast or an energy drain and you name all the times Superman has hit someone with a "planet destroying punch before they could move an inch" and we will see whose list is longer.

Hint: My list will have over 10 examples.

It's seems posters love to try and use the CBR no cis power sets to make up for their characters failings plus the fact they don't fight how they want them too.

^ Funny thing is if you take CIS completely off and just compare what the characters are capable of then Thor Owns. The guy has done some crazy s*** over the years.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
LOL I'm not surprised all this BS is coming fro a guy who thinks Superman's even going to speed blitz Surfer before he can raise his hand.

But Freezing the god of thunder is stupid even for you.

And FYI Illusions are instantaneous as are Lightning Blasts.

Superman has frozen stronger beings for minutes before. It's just a temporary thing. Superman freezes him for a second and get a free hit. The bare minimum is that the freeze breath will slow Thor's speed down further.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
^ Funny thing is if you take CIS completely off and just compare what the characters are capable of then Thor Owns. The guy has done some crazy s*** over the years.

Think about it, if you are capable of everything that Thor is but quicksilver is looking at you frozen in time then whether you are able to pull something off depends on whether he waits and let you. And you are forgetting that Thor can be forced from his hammer easily. Rocking him with a blow will cause him to drop the hammer, hitting Thor's wrist with sufficient force would cause him to drop it. Superman can use his super senses and speed and reflexes to make sure he keeps track of Mjolnir while he beats Thor up. If Mjolnir attempts to return, super grabs Thor like a rag doll and bats it away. The same is Thor tries to make it hit Superman from behind.

Originally posted by h1a8
I never claimed that. I claimed that surfer has to raise his hand to activate his blasts and drains. Superman will see it and avoid the blast.

Superman has frozen stronger beings for minutes before. It's just a temporary thing. Superman freezes him for a second and get a free hit. The bare minimum is that the freeze breath will slow Thor's speed down further.

Much more likely the god of thunder will considerably slow Superman down with thousands of hurricanes in every direction and all around lightning blasts.

And much more likely Thor will freeze Superman with the most freezing winds of a thousand worlds.

Originally posted by h1a8
speed wouldn't allow him to do anything.

Don't sing it. Bring it.

Originally posted by Star428
LMAO. Like Thor fans aren't guilty of the same thing. Superman is much more likely to open up with a super-speed blitz than Thor is with a Godblast or an energy drain.

What kind of blitz?

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Much more likely the god of thunder will considerably slow Superman down with thousands of hurricanes in every direction and all around lightning blasts.

And much more likely Thor will freeze Superman with the most freezing winds of a thousand worlds.

Think about it, if you are capable of everything that Thor is but quicksilver is looking at you frozen in time then whether you are able to pull something off depends on whether he waits and let you. And you are forgetting that Thor can be forced from his hammer easily. Rocking him with a blow will cause him to drop the hammer, hitting Thor's wrist with sufficient force would cause him to drop it, OR GRABBING THORS WRIST and making him hit himself.

After Mjolnir is out of Thor's hand, superman uses his senses, reflexes, and speed to make sure he keeps track of Mjolnir. If Mjolnir attempts to return to Thors hand or attempts to hit Superman then Superman grabs Thor like a rag doll and bats Mjolnir away with Thor's head.

Superman can freeze, hv, and punch at the same time, and he can do these things before Thor can do anything exotic.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Don't sing it. Bring it.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Much more likely the god of thunder will considerably slow Superman down with thousands of hurricanes in every direction and all around lightning blasts.

And much more likely Thor will freeze Superman with the most freezing winds of a thousand worlds.

Why didn't he demonstrate these tactics against Gladiator?

Why didn't he use these abilities against Count Nefaria?

You have 2 clear Superman analogues that demonstrate the problems the Odinson would encounter with Clark.

Originally posted by h1a8
lol, every argument you say is dependent upon Superman waiting and allowing it.

Think about it, if you are capable of everything that Thor is but quicksilver is looking at you frozen in time then whether you are able to pull something off depends on whether he waits and let you. And you are forgetting that Thor can be forced from his hammer easily. Rocking him with a blow will cause him to drop the hammer, hitting Thor's wrist with sufficient force would cause him to drop it, OR GRABBING THORS WRIST and making him hit himself.

After Mjolnir is out of Thor's hand, superman uses his senses, reflexes, and speed to make sure he keeps track of Mjolnir. If Mjolnir attempts to return to Thors hand or attempts to hit Superman then Superman grabs Thor like a rag doll and bats Mjolnir away with Thor's head.

Superman can freeze, hv, and punch at the same time, and he can do these things before Thor can do anything exotic.

I just did

Doesn't work like that though. Example...during his meeting with Flash at the diner, he had to speed up his senses when Flash started moving in super speed. It's not like he walks around seeing the world in slow motion. It's an active ability. Seems like he has to activate/use it.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Why didn't he demonstrate these tactics against Gladiator?

Why didn't he use these abilities against Count Nefaria?

You have 2 clear Superman analogues that demonstrate the problems the Odinson would encounter with Clark.

Same Argument can be used against Superman though. Why didn't he use this speed you are talking about against Titus? Why didn't he use it against Grundy, Konvikt, Despero?