Thor vs Superman

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn

How any rational person can look at the Thor vs Nefaria fight and think he "Held back" is a mystery.

Thor even even tried to BFR Nefaria but let us allow Darth to tell us otherwise.

Rechecked the fight and your right, he DID attempt to BFR Nefaria. And it was a pretty impressive display. Thor opened up a portal which Count Nefaria couldn't even resist, Lucky for him he happened to be right next to a Skyscraper which he chucked on Thor.

Another thing a Pisless/Cisless Thor is capable of and has even displayed against Superman types.

Also Thor was knocked down but not knocked out in that fight. And I wouldn't say he held back against Count N the way he did against Gladiator, but he didn't come close to unleashing his most lethal attacks, Anti-Force combined with the power of a thousand worlds (which would destroy the entire area they were in) and/or godblast (which would certainly kill the Count).

Thor will only unleash his full power like that if there are no civilians around and the Avengers are all a safe distant away as well, and when Thor is willing to Kill. The only lethal attack he can do without harming others in close proximity and without going for the kill is his BFR Potral which very nearly defeated the Count. He couldn't resist it, and was lucky he was right next to a Skyscraper to chuck at him.

So with the Avengers there and Thor unable to unleash his most destructive powers, there's no shame in Thor defeating the Count with aid from the Avengers under those circumstances. They succeeded, but in cases like The Destroyer, where the Avengers fail with Thor's help, Thor will then unleash his full power, giving the Avengers room to take cover and get civilians out of the way.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
Then you still haven't read it. Go actually read it without bias and with an ounce of common sense and you'll see I won this debate against you when I first posted that scan a few pages ago.

Do you actually read my points, or are you just continually repeating your own points, hoping somebody buys them?

Thor landed Lightning blasts and Mjolnir strikes on Nefaria. There was nothing stopping him landing his more potent abilities except the circumstances.

Yes, when Thor was either holding back, or not going all out.

I don't see what's so difficult to understand here.

He certainly didn't go all out on him.

Have you ever actually seen Thor go all out?

Have you even even picked up a Thor comic?

Right so now the likes of Teleportation and Transmutation are 95% of Thor's power, even as your about to claim that Thor ALWAYS BRAWLS.

LOL

You really ado have selective sight don't you?

Do I have to post the scan of Thor Battering the Superman Analogue again?

Or do you want me to show you an inferior version of Thor defeating the same Superman analogue? If I do will you even see that or will you block it out.

LOL And here I thought you were telling us that Teleportation and Energy draining was 95% of his power!

You mean like when he unleashed against Gladiator battering him.And even still didn't unleash his full power. 👆

Yes his strength and elemental powers of a thousand worlds. Abilities he has even without Mjolnir 👆

Yeah if Thor's holding back and trying to protect people while Superman is out for the kill 👆

But you apparently can and continue to ignore the on panel in your face evidence presented to you time and time again. Clearly it's just not getting through your head.

I've addressed your Trolling points plentiful now. You repeating your trollsomeness isn't going to change that. So GTFO now 👆

Scans of Thor using any of the aforementioned abilities without Mjolnir provided by Darth Power.

NONE .

Desperation in the form of lying about MY claims by Darth Power.

LOTS .

Let us take a look.

Right so now the likes of Teleportation and Transmutation are 95% of Thor's power, even as your about to claim that Thor ALWAYS BRAWLS.

Show me where I've claimed that TELEPORTATION AND TRANSMUTATION alone are 95% of Thor's power .

Do so and I will readily acknowledge Thor wins this matchup.

Don't obfuscate, lie, or avoid the issue.

SHOW THE POST(S)

"Thor always brawls"

You're really terrible at debating.

Thor always brawls FIRST /B]. First, being the operative word. It is a hallmark of the character. Otherwise his battles with the Hulk and various other characters would be entirely different than the established canon.

[B]"Going all out"- THOR. WON'T. GET. THE. CHANCE. TO. GO. ALL. OUT.

I'll humor you.

Taking off Thor's CIS which would have him seek to brawl with Clark first.

1) Godblast- The most powerful attack.

Too slow.

At this point you'll deny this too.

2) Energy draining/Soul draining- Superman has shown to be highly resistant against these attacks. If Thor begins the process why wouldn't Superman be able to knock Mjolnir away from him the way Gladiator did?

Feel free to actually ANSWER my questions at any time.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Thor's best speed feat is reacting in a microsecond.

No, his best feat is reacting, moving and throwing a superhuman knock out punch in microseconds.

So he can clearly just react and shoot a lot faster than that.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Superman can spend hours in a microsecond. He can't punch Thor lets say a dozen times in that time? Why?

And Superman knocks out people more durable than Thor in 2-3 punches. So its moot anyway.

You're being carver lite now. Superman can't punch Thor a dozen times in an hour?

Planet Busting punches take energy/power. So it's for you to prove he can lay a Dozen of them in less time than Thor can react. If he does something akin to that in even a few nanoseconds and they are clearly his Uber Powerful Planet Busting punches then I'll concede the point.

Basically he needs the feat for that.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Because reaction time is able to steer himself. And Superman was stated to be better in every way by Superman himself.

So yeah, you're wrong as usual.

Scan. And those fts doesn't belong to Superman. Stop posting part of scans.

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
No, his best feat is reacting, moving and throwing a superhuman knock out punch in microseconds.

So he can clearly just react and shoot a lot faster than that.

Planet Busting punches take energy/power. So it's for you to prove he can lay a Dozen of them in less time than Thor can react. If he does something akin to that in even a few nanoseconds and they are clearly his Uber Powerful Planet Busting punches then I'll concede the point.

Basically he needs the feat for that.

Who says it needs several planet busting punches to beat Thor? Show me him tanking even a single planet busting punch in a nanosecond or even taking a planet busting punch directly. As it is, Superman has oneshotted people who can tank Supernovas and shit.

Originally posted by carver9
Scan. And those fts doesn't belong to Superman. Stop posting part of scans.

So yeah, shut up.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Scans of Thor using any of the aforementioned abilities without Mjolnir provided by Darth Power.

[B]NONE .

Desperation in the form of lying about MY claims by Darth Power.[/B]

I think it's clear to everyone who is the desperate one here, as well as the clear Troll.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
[B]LOTS .

Let us take a look.

Right so now the likes of Teleportation and Transmutation are 95% of Thor's power, even as your about to claim that Thor ALWAYS BRAWLS.

Show me where I've claimed that TELEPORTATION AND TRANSMUTATION alone are 95% of Thor's power .

Do so and I will readily acknowledge Thor wins this matchup.

Don't obfuscate, lie, or avoid the issue.

SHOW THE POST(S) [/B]

[/B][/QUOTE]

I don't think you even conprehend the conversation we're having. Your trying to pretend you win something if I don't post scans of Thor teleporting without Mjolnir. Since I never claimed he could, you're just looking like an idiot harping on about it.

You claimed Thor without Mjolnir loses 95% of his offensive and defensive powers. Do I need to post your quote?

Stop acting like Thor is useless without Mjolnir.

Stop acting like it's a fact Thor will even be separated from Mjolnir in a fight.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
[B]"Thor always brawls"

You're really terrible at debating.[/B]

LOL The true signs of desperation. When you know your losing just use the line "you're terrible at this.."

Out of the 2 of us your the one Trolling me, not the other way around.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Thor always brawls [B]FIRST /B]. First, being the operative word. It is a hallmark of the character. Otherwise his battles with the Hulk and various other characters would be entirely different than the established canon.

Really? So he brawled here against Thanos before Unleashing his full power right?:

Originally posted by ODG

Thor vs Thanosi, from Thor vol. 2 #22:
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsThanos01v222.jpg

He also went in full power first throwing Mjolnir at The Destroyer in one fight.

In fact, what was the first thing he did against Count Nefaria?:

Originally posted by ODG

http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsCountNefaria03.jpg
http://i388.photobucket.com/albums/oo326/OneDumbG0/Thor%20Fights/ThorvsCountNefaria04Avengers166.jpg

Yep he threw Mjolnir first.

I can't even count the times he begins a fight like that, and many times with an energy blast.

So are you going to admit now that you either:

a) never actually read Thor comics, or
b) are just purposefully lowballing and trolling.

Also the point you also don't seem to get through that thick skull of your bringing up fighting "in character" is that Superman "in character" isn't going to go for a full on Speed Blitz right from the onset of the fight.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
[B]"Going all out"- THOR. WON'T. GET. THE. CHANCE. TO. GO. ALL. OUT.[/B]

Yeah you keep repeating that nonesense.

I've already been having in depth discussions on the whole speed thing with others here. You can read those conversations and educate yourself.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
I'll humor you.

Taking off Thor's CIS which would have him seek to brawl with Clark first.

1) [B]Godblast- The most powerful attack.

Too slow.

At this point you'll deny this too.[/B]

It takes a few seconds. But the Anti-Force blast is Instantaneous. As are his Irresistable portals.

But even without the portals he can unleash the Anti-Force Blast, with Magical Lightning blasts, begin unleashing Omni-Blasts of a Thousand Hurricanes and Magical Lightning attacks, and at some point Supes will likely be down or dazed for a few seconds, and that's all Thor needs.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
2) [B]Energy draining/Soul draining- Superman has shown to be highly resistant against these attacks. If Thor begins the process why wouldn't Superman be able to knock Mjolnir away from him the way Gladiator did? [/B]

Same as above.

Originally posted by LordofBrooklyn
Feel free to actually ANSWER my questions at any time.

I have addressed EVERY SINGLE ONE of your points now, while you continue trolling around mine just saying "LOOOK SUPERMAN ANALOGUE HURT THOR," even though many of the writers of those very fights say Thor would beat Superman in a fight LOL.. In fact Jurgens even said "No WAY Superman could take Thor!" 😂

I'm done with your Trollsomeness!

Originally posted by abhilegend
Not really. He punched once in "few microseconds", not in less than a microsecond. Its his best feat to date.

IYO.

IMO he moves at those kind of speeds consistently given his record against High Herald level speedsters.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Iron Fist is faster than him

No he's not. Don't troll me.

Originally posted by abhilegend
and he is a street leveler by his less than microsecond feat.

No where in your scan did I see it quantified that Iron Fist reacted and moved within a few microseconds.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Who says it needs several planet busting punches to beat Thor? Show me him tanking even a single planet busting punch in a nanosecond or even taking a planet busting punch directly. As it is, Superman has oneshotted people who can tank Supernovas and shit.

LOL You never seen Thor taking punches from Hercules, Hulk, Gladiator, Sentry e.t.c.

Heck he's taken hits from Thanos.

They are all Planet Busters. He can tank plenty of those punches.

So I see you have no feat of Superman doing such a combo of Planet Busting punches within nanoseconds 👆

Originally posted by abhilegend
Not really. He punched once in "few microseconds", not in less than a microsecond. Its his best feat to date. Iron Fist is faster than him and he is a street leveler by his less than microsecond feat.

Who says it needs several planet busting punches to beat Thor? Show me him tanking even a single planet busting punch in a nanosecond or even taking a planet busting punch directly. As it is, Superman has oneshotted people who can tank Supernovas and shit.
Just posted the scans. Electric Superman got beat the shit out of him. Then there is Superman blitzing Strange Visitor who had the same powers as Electric Superman.

So yeah, shut up.

😂

I can't believe you posted that fight. Isn't that the same fight where Superman struggled catching her going shy of above the speed of sound? What's the issue number?

You stated that it was said that Superman Blue was slower. Where was that said? And that wasn't a blitz. He tied her up while she was still on the ground stunned.

ABHI...Superman clearly has the speed edge here and anyone denying it is half retarded. I honestly believe he could land the first five hits before Thor got off an attack but you have plenty of Superman speed showings to use, so why use scans for a different Superman as an argument? You clearly have the advantage when it comes to Superman speed vs Thor reaction, why not take advantage of that instead of using debatable scans? Doesn't make sense.

Originally posted by Bentley
Finally, you guys realized your strength is at cheerleading, not debating g_grin

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes, you so that often.

Thor wins by the way, weakling.

Coward 😆 And I will beat you kickball body any day, when you a real physical sport like football, then you will stand a chance.

Also on your "challenge" I don't fight girls

But I am willing to make a exception with you.

you said Superman vs Sentry in character

This means you are excluding void, or death sentry or voidtry

So yes lets do it, I don't run away

Superman vs Sentry. I will grind your face into the pavement.

I really dislike cowards behavior like yours.

Just mind time because unlike you I have a business to run

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Coward 😆 And I will beat you kickball body any day, when you a real physical sport like football, then you will stand a chance.

Also on your "challenge" I don't fight girls

But I am willing to make a exception with you.

you said Superman vs Sentry in character

This means you are excluding void, or death sentry or voidtry

So yes lets do it, I don't run away

Superman vs Sentry. I will grind your face into the pavement.

I really dislike cowards like you.

Leave the trash talk outside of comic book characters in the movie forum. Show some restraint and act mature for a change here.

Accept the Sentry in all his glory but quit trying to exclude evidence.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Sentry and the Void are the same character as is the Death Seed Sentry. Quit distancing yourself from the power of the one character. As usual you want to ignore the evidence and the clear character that is the Sentry in all his glory.

Leave the trash talk outside of comic book characters in the movie forum. Show some restraint and act mature for a change here.

Accept the Sentry in all his glory but quit trying to exclude evidence.

He had extenuating circumstances leading to those incarnations.

Void appears depending on the amount of good he does, so how is void appearing here? is he taking extra serum? is he dead and cleansed of his void persona and his agarophobia?

So I am guessing you are backing down again, right?

And lol at trash talk. I really wish I lived in Ohio to pay you a friendly visit maybe after the beating I will give you, then We could become friends

Rao and Quan, we're beyond warnings and temp bans. I'm going to kill you both, to death, until you die from being beaten to lifelessness.

OK I will stop

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
He had extenuating circumstances leading to those incarnations.

Void appears depending on the amount of good he does, so how is void appearing here? is he taking extra serum? is he dead and cleansed of his void persona and his agarophobia?

So I am guessing you are backing down again, right?

And lol at trash talk. I really wish I lived in Ohio to pay you a friendly visit maybe after the beating I will give you, then We could become friends

We look at the entire history of the character and his showings. I won't debate a character you can ignore. We have seen the Void act as the Sentry with lethal force. I'd beat you within an inch of your life.

Now you've incurred the wrath of the Pennsylvanian Lizard. He is angry so let us keep the challenge talk to the movie versus off topic.

Back on topic! Thor wins!!!

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
OK I will stop

Originally posted by Badabing
It's too late. Quan kept going. You're both dead! sneer

Nope, we already moved this to the "butthurt communal" 😄

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Nope, we already moved this to the "butthurt communal" 😄

What happened to the truce?

Originally posted by DARTH POWER
IYO.

IMO he moves at those kind of speeds consistently given his record against High Herald level speedsters.

So I see you have no feat of Superman doing such a combo of Planet Busting punches within nanoseconds 👆