Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Supes beats Thor because he is superior in both strength and speed. Thor drops Mjolnir and Supes picks it up (as he has before) he then proceeds to beat thor with his own weapon.
In a crossover... 🙄
Superman isn't stronger, we've already been through this. Superman is faster, but not fast enough to pose a problem for Thor. Thor doesn't even need Mjolnir to summon lightning. A Godblast would wipe Supes out in one shot. Superman's speed isn't enough to save him.
Thor wins. 😄
Roll your eyes all you want. This wasnt voted for by fans. Get over yourself boy.
If Supes can survive Asmodels purity blast, then he is MORE than worthy enough to pick up Thors hammer and use it against him.
Speed is a big issue here, Supes is much faster. Speed makes a big difference in fights of all types. What makes you think it would be different here?
Doesn't matter if it was fanvoted or not. Crossovers aren't canon. Who wants to see DC's flagship guy lose to a Marvel second stringer? Not me.
Don't call me, 'boy.' 😄
The question isn't whether Superman is worthy or not. Thing is, Thor isn't dropping Mjolnir.
Superman is faster than a speeding bullet. That's not fast enough to pose a problem for Thor, who is around WW's speed.
Originally posted by Cosmic Cube
Doesn't matter if it was fanvoted or not. Crossovers aren't canon. Who wants to see DC's flagship guy lose to a Marvel second stringer? Not me.Don't call me 'boy.' 😄
The question isn't whether Superman is worthy or not. Thing is, Thor isn't dropping Mjolnir.
Superman is faster than a speeding bullet. That's not fast enough to pose a problem for Thor, who is around WW's speed.
Stop rolling your eyes like a child, and we won't have a problem with that. 🙂
I'll be happy to acknowlege your crossover theory if you show me that it says all crossovers are off limits.
Speed matters a lot in a fight. Strength and speed matter even more. Thor is certainly not any smarter than Clark either, so we can cross out that argument.
Thors hammer has been knocked away from him before. Supes can definitely pick up the hammer and use it on thor. No debating that.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
Stop rolling your eyes like a child, and we won't have a problem with that. 🙂I'll be happy to acknowlege your crossover theory if you show me that it says [B]all
crossovers are off limits.Speed matters a lot in a fight. Strength and speed matter even more. Thor is certainly not any smarter than Clark either, so we can cross out that argument.
Thors hammer has been knocked away from him before. Supes can definitely pick up the hammer and use it on thor. No debating that. [/B]
Hulk couldn’t, Quasar tried to contain it that didn't work
The only one I know that has done it is Gladiator , only high level (power that exceed thor’s has come close)
Who else did it?
Thor has made even Savage hulk scared, Superman will get hurt for so.
Superman’s weakness = Magic(fact) – Shazam , CM , other magic has done serious damage to Supes before , and it’s not like thor will be only depending on magic.
He has done serious damage to Hulk, Gladiator etc with his hammer
Ass Magic weakness and Thor power? Doesn’t look good
As for he is Stronger? Well with his hammer, I don’t think so
Superman --- moved world war (when powered up)
Thor is been said to be as strong as Gladiator himself (who moves planets with ease)
Faster ? Yes I would say so, but fast enough to knock his hammer? Most likely not
Originally posted by kgkg
Thor’s hammer has been knocked from his hand? By who?Hulk couldn’t, Quasar tried to contain it that didn't work
The only one I know that has done it is Gladiator , only high level (power that exceed thor’s has come close)
Who else did it?
Thor has made even Savage hulk scared, Superman will get hurt for so.
Superman’s weakness = Magic(fact) – Shazam , CM , other magic has done serious damage to Supes before , and it’s not like thor will be only depending on magic.
He has done serious damage to Hulk, Gladiator etc with his hammer
Ass Magic weakness and Thor power? Doesn’t look good
As for he is Stronger? Well with his hammer, I don’t think so
Superman --- moved world war (when powered up)
Thor is been said to be as strong as Gladiator himself (who moves planets with ease)
Faster ? Yes I would say so, but fast enough to knock his hammer? Most likely not
You said it right there..he's been said to be around that league..when has Glads been shown to move planets with ease? So far its all been said, not seen. Normal gambit knocked Glads down. Thors hammer has been knocked away from him before, I dont remember by who right now, but its definitely been done.
I like Thor, and I agree Mjolnir is a great tool against Supes. Thor can definitely edge out a win with Mjolnir. Straight up, its Supes though. If Supes knocks Mjolnir out of Thors hands he can pick it up and use it also.
Thor is durable, I dont think he can survive on or in the sun however without magic. Full heat vision will hurt him or kill him if not blocked with mjolnir.
Good battle though.
Originally posted by Avalonofthewind
You said it right there..he's been said to be around that league..when has Glads been shown to move planets with ease? So far its all been said, not seen. Normal gambit knocked Glads down. Thors hammer has been knocked away from him before, I dont remember by who right now, but its definitely been done.I like Thor, and I agree Mjolnir is a great tool against Supes. Thor can definitely edge out a win with Mjolnir. Straight up, its Supes though. If Supes knocks Mjolnir out of Thors hands he can pick it up and use it also.
Thor is durable, I dont think he can survive on or in the sun however without magic. Full heat vision will hurt him or kill him if not blocked with mjolnir.
Good battle though.
Superman's speed - Mach 50 at most, He needs lots of acceleration just to exceed Mach 1.(earth)
Gladiator's Speed - 100X light - He travels’s trough space (fact) etc.
-Brought the hulk to space before he even realized anything.
Heat vision - hotter than the hottest Stars
Thor reflected that back at him with Mjolnir
Strength - He moves planet (not just assumption he has done this)
- He has blow entire planet with his fist.
Superman doesn't come close to this level.
“Normal gambit knocked Glads down” - bad writing , and Glads level defends on his confidence , he is usually written badly , He has survived Solar system destroying attacks
" If Supes knocks Mjolnir out of Thors hands he can pick it up and use it also." I agree if he can he will win, without Mjolnir Thor isn't doing much.
But is supes speed enough, to doge Mjolnir , and knock it out of his hand? Who has done this?
Glads did it but he is really fast.
check the Ragnarok saga.
During his first fight VS Loki, Ulik, Fenris, Hyrm we can see how powerful Mjolnir is.
First, Ulik, the giant and Fenris assaulted Thor who parried the blows of their hammers with Mjolnir, the explosion was so incredible it destroyed the Hymir Krul and killed almost anyone of the Asgardians, Dwarves and Valkyries in the place.
The second clash of Thor's hammer and the Mjolnir replicas of Ulik, Hyrm and Fenris caused a massive ground zero explosion that looked like a nuclear strike composed of magical energy.Mjolnir was broken in 3 pieces and Thor's enemies were all K.O. stucked into the ground.
Loki was floating over Thor and blasted him with another ground zero hit that sent Thor deep into the sea then he was attacked from the Jormungand serpent.
Originally posted by whirlysplat
Superman wins this easily 😄 His faster, stronger, more resilient and has heat vision which would kill supes being much hotter than firelords flame (Thor laid down his hammer fighting Firelord by the way because he could not beat him). 😆Keep the faith 🤘
Keep it Whirly 😇
Gladiator >>> Superman ----- faster, stronger, better heat vision 😄
Who keeps saying that Supes travels at mach 50?
If he did only travel at that speed, he would not be able to travel from solar-system to solar-system in in panels like he has before post-crisis as well as pre.
And acceleration? It's nigh instant. Otherwise he wouldn't be able to run across a room in the time between a bullet leaving it's barrel and reaching it's target.
Thor has never showed reaction speeds equalling or even coming close to what Supes has consistently shown time and again.
Don't get me wrong - I don't think Supes' speed would make it an easy win fro him, not by a long shot.
As has been proven in his fights against Shazam, magic can cause him pain and injury, which have consistently been shown to shock Supes - who is normally used to being invulnerable.
I've said before - If Thor can suprise Superman with magic lightning or something that'd hurt him, if he then followed up 'immediately' with a flurry of attacks, he could beat down Superman.
But Superman beats him in every physical category. He has shown far greater feats of strength, speed and durability time and again.
Thor's edge in this fight is his lightning and Mjolnir (being magic, a blow from Mjolnir would hurt Supes - if it wasn't he'd shrug it off everytime).
If he capitalises on Supes' magical weakness - which he may NOT being an honourable fighter - he could win.
If he goes toe-to-toe, he would lose.
This battle is similar to Superman vs Hulk, except in this case, Thor is Supes and Supes is Hulk. Supes can beat Hulk, but not by going toe to toe - only by using all his power to it's potential.
Same goes for Thor in this fight.
Originally posted by ZephroCarnelian
Who keeps saying that Supes travels at mach 50?If he did only travel at that speed, he would not be able to travel from solar-system to solar-system in in panels like he has before post-crisis as well as pre.
And acceleration? It's nigh instant. Otherwise he wouldn't be able to run across a room in the time between a bullet leaving it's barrel and reaching it's target.
Thor has never showed reaction speeds equalling or even coming close to what Supes has consistently shown time and again.
Don't get me wrong - I don't think Supes' speed would make it an easy win fro him, not by a long shot.
As has been proven in his fights against Shazam, magic can cause him pain and injury, which have consistently been shown to shock Supes - who is normally used to being invulnerable.
I've said before - If Thor can suprise Superman with magic lightning or something that'd hurt him, if he then followed up 'immediately' with a flurry of attacks, he could beat down Superman.
But Superman beats him in every physical category. He has shown far greater feats of strength, speed and durability time and again.
Thor's edge in this fight is his lightning and Mjolnir (being magic, a blow from Mjolnir would hurt Supes - if it wasn't he'd shrug it off everytime).
If he capitalises on Supes' magical weakness - which he may NOT being an honourable fighter - he could win.
If he goes toe-to-toe, he would lose.
This battle is similar to Superman vs Hulk, except in this case, Thor is Supes and Supes is Hulk. Supes can beat Hulk, but not by going toe to toe - only by using all his power to it's potential.
Same goes for Thor in this fight.
let see
1) He couldn't catch bullets
2) In the vortex , Light Speed was a new Concept to Superman , when the vortex accelerated him beyond mach 50 he started saying: Ahhh , OHHhh shit like that.
3) THe race with flash- many times he has stated that he was not fast enough.
4) Superman himself has stated that if the vortex fulled him FTL he whould rip space/time itself.