Originally posted by OneDumbG0
1. It doesn't matter if you think it's impossible since we're talking about a comic book character who happens to be a mutant with an already odd bone structure. It happened on-panel and was a knockout and per forum customs, a win. Deal with it. So point against you.2. It was the bullet to the brain that knocked him out. Same as the above instance. Everything else leading up to that point was to make Wolverine mad. And considering that you're trying to convince people that Wolverine's healing factor is uber, I find it disingenuous that you're arguing Wolverine's healing factor was so taxed by that point, that was why he was unconscious for so long. It's one or the other. You can't have it both ways. Either his healing factor can be taxed and overcome, or a single bullet to the brain through either his eye or throat takes him out. Considering that he's been taken out before by a single bullet to the brain, on-panel evidence dictates the latter.
And considering his encounter with Deadpool. You really think his boneclaw healing factor is on par with his current one? Wolverine got hit by a duck bomb, two shuriken grenades, a waitress punch, a piano and was rolled over by a delivery truck that exploded. That knocked him out of the game for twenty minutes, ON-PANEL. I've seen bone-claw Wolverine rolled over by a truck before and he healed in seconds, post-Fatal Attractions. No way that the extra explosions (which didn't even engulf him in flames) account for the difference between those two instances. For you to argue that current HF is equal to his boneclaw HF is ludicrous.
3. Desert environment obstructs his healing factor? Says you. Even I don't make this claim. And you only assume it was hundreds of bullets. Considering he appears to have a hundred bullet holes in him on-panel, please don't try to inflate the feat.
Yes downgraded. As suggested by Azrael, as admitted by Wolverine and even mocked by X-23. ALL ON-PANEL. His healing factor is downgraded to such a degree that bullets take him out. Especially bullets to the brain. ON-PANEL.
Appearently you don't understand the rules of the forum very well One time feats that happen on panel? Yeah those do to get discarded.
The "No PIS" RulePIS = Plot Induced Stupidity
At times, for the sake of the plot, characters that are immensely more powerful than their opponent will "job" to carry on the plot of the story, even though the characters powers and history would clearly show that they are more than capable of destroying their opponent. For this reason we have a No PIS Rule. This rule prohibits the use of such instances of PIS from being used as evidence in debates.
Spiderman vs. Firelord
Spiderman vs. Firelord, or SvFL, is a shorthand that refers to any time when a character performs a feat that their powers and skills should be blatantly insufficient for, and is not repeated or is rarely repeated again relative to the character's overall established career, as well as the character's opponents' established showings. In statistical terms, it is an outlier, something that is radically beyond the character's established capabilities. For example, Spiderman defeating a herald of Galactus is a case of the SvFL exemption; however, Batman being able to sneak up on Superman is not because he has done so frequently under different writers.
It happened once? Sorry, but Spiderman beat Firelord once. but guess what? Despite it happeneing ON PANEL it is not creidble to use it.
