Blade vs. Wolverine

Started by jinzin57 pages
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Not In Wolverine issue 28 he didnt all we knew was that he had light. Again you seem to fail to understand if his brainwashing was affceting his ability to fight he would have had problems with Thing and tagging Northstar. It doesnt matter how you spin it Northstar would have seen Wolverine. i'll concede it wanst tech

What does it matter which issues it was detailed in?

X-marks already detailed every point of contradiction about needing fighting ability to stab Thing in that scenario.. I don't think I'll fair any better... You've got your blinders on.

What's does a sneak attack, and circumstances have to do with fighting ability?

So then you think that Kitty>Northstar in reaction speed... figures.

What do you mean it "wasn't" tech? 🤨

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Whats that got to do with anything.

Oh just pointing out your unending hypocrisy.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
With the wire?
yup.

Originally posted by jinzin
What does it matter which issues it was detailed in?

Ok fair enough.

Originally posted by jinzin

X-marks already detailed every point of contradiction about needing fighting ability to stab Thing in that scenario.. I don't think I'll fair any better... You've got your blinders on.

No he dindt for God sake. He ran on the wire that Thing used to hit him that proves hes still fast!

Originally posted by jinzin

What's does a sneak attack, and circumstances have to do with fighting ability?

Because fighting ability affects speed if his speed was hindered he would have trouble tagging Northstar

Originally posted by jinzin

So then you think that Kitty>Northstar in reaction speed... figures.

Failed. Kitty inst faster than Northstar but she can THINK fast enough to react to a speedster. Hell Colossus doent have superhuman refelexes in human form but was able to phase quick enough to stop him from getting killed by bullets after they had left the gun at point blank range.

Originally posted by jinzin

What do you mean it "wasn't" tech? 🤨

Was tech my bad.

Originally posted by jinzin

Oh just pointing out your unending hypocrisy.

You dindt point out jack how is hypcorisy.

Originally posted by jinzin

yup.

Where?
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=10159117

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
No he dindt for God sake. He ran on the wire that Thing used to hit him that proves hes still fast!

"Still fast" sure.
Not faster. Not upgraded.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Because fighting ability affects speed if his speed was hindered he would have trouble tagging Northstar
Why would fighting ability affect fast and slow twich muscles or inhibit them in any way? 😕

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Failed. Kitty inst faster than Northstar but she can THINK fast enough to react to a speedster. Hell Colossus doent have superhuman refelexes in human form but was able to phase quick enough to stop him from getting killed by bullets after they had left the gun at point blank range.
And? Northstar pulled a "kung fu hustle" with a bullet feat.
She can react faster than northstar can in your opinion?

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
You dindt point out jack how is hypcorisy.

Oh I did, it's just that other members'll see it. You won't

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Where?
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=10159117
Page before that.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
No he dindt for God sake. He ran on the wire that Thing used to hit him that proves hes still fast!
No he ran on the bundle of wires that Thing missed him with, depicted in the scan you posted here, where you ask when he was hit.
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Where?
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=10159117
So basically you don't think he was hit immediately prior to running up the wires and question where he was hit immediately prior to running up the wires, and in fact having that scan know he dodged the wires then ran up them, but are still fully prepared to say that he was hit and immediately subsequently ran up the wires, to try and prove who knows what now.

He was hit on this page:

Which brings us all the way back to questions like "Have you even looked at the comic in question?" and "Do you actually read what you write or just pretend to play piano on the computer keyboard?" because the latter might be just a little bit more cogent.

but I've read the wolverine respect thread some of the feats are identical to blades in terms of speed and skill (wolverine however does have superior strength or at least the older version of wolverine does...it was sick he he used a tree like a bat)

Wolverine
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=4741359
Blade
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Bladekickinss.jpg

Wolverine
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/9610/wolverinev21810hr3.jpg
Blade
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Bladejumpin.jpg

blade defeating dracula easily:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/BladevsDracula2.jpg again there is no proof this dracula is any weaker than the one who faught the x-men

blade is probably on level with captain america however it's just blades lack of fights with other super heroes that make people assume he is weak (despite him hunting enemies that are above peak human)

blade has however stalemated gambit (who ahs beaten wolverine on occasion)
beaten a spiderman enhanced with vampiric abilities
has taken on ghostrider and blaze
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y93/Jyppe/ghostrider.jpg
beaten union jack (then saved his life)

however everyone needs to cool off a little bit also this should be civil, theres no reason we can't have fun doin this, while keeping an open mind...thers no need for sarcasm either - this could go a lot smoother if everyone just respected each other

Yes, clearly that was the same Dracula who took on teams of X-Men, Apocalypse or Silver Surfer, and Blade is obviously easily greater than these opponents, probably combined even. ha-son

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Yes, clearly that was the same Dracula who took on teams of X-Men, Apocalypse or Silver Surfer, and Blade is obviously easily greater than these opponents, probably combined even. ha-son
do you have scans or something of him stating that he's been enhanced? I haven't read the issue so maybe you know something that I dont if so tell me instead of being a jerk about it.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
instead of being a jerk about it.
But that's like my niche in the KMC ecosystem... ermm

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
But that's like my niche in the KMC ecosystem... ermm
must be a hard spot to maintain

but seriously was dracula said to have any enhancements during the fights? I only started reading comics in 04 I think s oanything previous to that I'm oblivious too

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
but I've read the wolverine respect thread some of the feats are identical to blades in terms of speed and skill (wolverine however does have superior strength or at least the older version of wolverine does...it was sick he he used a tree like a bat)

Wolverine
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/attachment.php?s=&postid=4741359
Blade
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Bladekickinss.jpg

Wolverine
http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/9610/wolverinev21810hr3.jpg
Blade
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/Bladejumpin.jpg

blade defeating dracula easily:
http://i31.photobucket.com/albums/c379/Doggydogg/BladevsDracula2.jpg again there is no proof this dracula is any weaker than the one who faught the x-men

Lol, those aren't even Wolverine's greatest feats. In two weeks go back the respect forum and look up the Revamped Wolverine Respect Thread..

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
blade is probably on level with captain america however it's just blades lack of fights with other super heroes that make people assume he is weak (despite him hunting enemies that are above peak human)

blade has however stalemated gambit (who ahs beaten wolverine on occasion)


Gambit has not beaten Wolverine without cheating outside of Ultimate Marvel.
Blade ended up on his belly, Gambit on his feet.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
beaten a spiderman enhanced with vampiric abilities

Who had no awareness of his Spider Sense and didn't even try dodging bullets... hardly impressive.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
has taken on ghostrider and blaze
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y93/Jyppe/ghostrider.jpg
beaten union jack (then saved his life)

For a panel before getting owned.
Wolverine's KOed GR twice to a stalemate and got the upper hand on Vengeance in h2h.

It's a hard job. But I cope. ermmhappy

I thought jinzin already replied to your question:

Originally posted by jinzin
The Dracula that Wolverine fought with was pre-Montesi incantation from Strange, before he was destroyed... THAT Dracula warded of entire teams of the X-men, overpowering Colossus, beating Silver Surfer, battling Thor... The Dracula that came back, while being of the same spirit was no where near as powerful.

well spiderman was in air so it was hard for ih mto dodge the bullets

oh I'd really lik to see the revamped thread, by when do you htink it will be ready...(I'll probably forget, I'll needa reminder)

no check out the gambit respect thread he blows wolverines head up or something like that (was that ultimate marvel???)

blade wasn't put on his belly by gambit he landed hat way it was a stalemate all the same

also that wasnt just ghostrider byhimself he had help again blades only real disadvantage here is his lack of fights with other superheroes

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
It's a hard job. But I cope. ermmhappy

I thought jinzin already replied to your question:

blade has also beaten (with help) a more powerful version of dracula (in the tomb of dracula)

Where is it stated that Dracula is less powerful now than he was in the 70's and 80's? Sounds like fable. He seemed pretty powerful in the latest Tomb of Dracula series. Anyways Blade has also faced Dracula in the 70's. Although he didn't beat him he posed a greater threat than Wolverine ever did. Wolverine got WTF pwned.

I'm half tempted to make a Blade guantlet where he goes up against the team of X-men that Dracula warded off, the Apocalypse, then Silver surfer

Cause this logic:

Blade>Dracula>Wolverine

Is stupid in the face that Dracula fought off guys that should be greater than Blade. Its almost to the point of SMvsFL levels of stupid.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
well spiderman was in air so it was hard for ih mto dodge the bullets

Spiderman... nuff said.. 😬

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
oh I'd really lik to see the revamped thread, by when do you htink it will be ready...(I'll probably forget, I'll needa reminder)
like I said around 2 weeks... maybe three.. I need to fix some links and post some scans from current issues still.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
no check out the gambit respect thread he blows wolverines head up or something like that (was that ultimate marvel???)
Yes: Ultimate X-Men.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
blade wasn't put on his belly by gambit he landed hat way it was a stalemate all the same
He "landed" that way because Gambit kicked him upside the head/torso

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
also that wasnt just ghostrider byhimself he had help again blades only real disadvantage here is his lack of fights with other superheroes
Blaze is not that intimidating, he's like a lowly version of Punisher.. and again, it was Blade jumping at em for one panel before getting owned. That's not impressive.

The hero thing, well, it's a major disadvantage when you're comparing Blade against a guy who's had like 20 fights with the Hulk alone... 😬

Originally posted by Creshosk
I'm half tempted to make a Blade guantlet where he goes up against the team of X-men that Dracula warded off, the Apocalypse, then Silver surfer

Cause this logic:

Blade>Dracula>Wolverine

Is stupid in the face that Dracula fought off guys that should be greater than Blade. Its almost to the point of SMvsFL levels of stupid.

Don't forget Thor! 🙂

Originally posted by jinzin
Don't forget Thor! 🙂
Where do you think Thor would go in that line up? Order wise I mean.

wolverine loses most of his fights against the hulk though....why cant wolverine behead the hulk again?

(Im answering these out of order sorry)
for the respect thread you should add his fight with darkness it was sick

the reason most of the fights dont seem to make sense is mainly because of the writer, spiderman admitted to be consious during the fight (he remembered everything and was thinking accordingly), also there is proof that he probably did dodge many of the sohts (as the backround panel has a multitude of "bangs" and spiderman only gets hit twice)

as for the fight with gambit, blade doesnt get hit..there is a thunk but no contact is being made during thta panel

...and blade would destroy punisher

Originally posted by Creshosk
Where do you think Thor would go in that line up? Order wise I mean.

It's a tossup before or after SS imo.