Blade vs. Wolverine

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
wolverine loses most of his fights against the hulk though....why cant wolverine behead the hulk again?

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
the reason most of the fights dont seem to make sense is mainly because of the writer, spiderman admitted to be consious during the fight (he remembered everything and was thinking accordingly), also there is proof that he probably did dodge many of the sohts (as the backround panel has a multitude of "bangs" and spiderman only gets hit twice)

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
as for the fight with gambit, blade doesnt get hit..there is a thunk but no contact is being made during thta panel

Originally posted by jinzin
It's a tossup before or after SS imo.

Originally posted by Creshosk
You're not going to like the answer to that question... because you certainly didn't like the answer to the question about Wolverine staying a vampire...

Which is more than he aught to.

What went thunk?
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the writer just wanted to put blade on level with wolverine and spiderman, the artist however made the fights suck

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
the writer just wanted to put blade on level with wolverine and spiderman

No Mentioning Events of PIS

Plot Induced Stupidity, or PIS, is when characters don't use their abilities or skills to the fullest extent as shown before, even within their personality ranges, for the sake of the story plotline. It makes lesser powered characters an actual challenge against higher powered characters in the comics. Examples of PIS include Flash stories lasting longer than three panels, or Toy Man as a threat to Superman.

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Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
wolverine loses most of his fights against the hulk though....why cant wolverine behead the hulk again?

The fact that he loses most of those fights isn't the point. The point is that Wolverine can give Hulk all hell by himself when entire teams fail to do so in comparison.
Hell the fact that he HAS WINS over Hulk and ties is pretty damned impressive too.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
Im answering these out of order sorry)
for the respect thread you should add his fight with darkness it was sick

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
the reason most of the fights dont seem to make sense is mainly because of the writer, spiderman admitted to be consious during the fight (he remembered everything and was thinking accordingly), also there is proof that he probably did dodge many of the sohts (as the backround panel has a multitude of "bangs" and spiderman only gets hit twice)

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
as for the fight with gambit, blade doesnt get hit..there is a thunk but no contact is being made during thta panel

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
...and blade would destroy punisher

Originally posted by jinzin
because Hulk has a healing factor that acts faster than liquid metal. 😕

The fact that he loses most of those fights isn't the point. The point is that Wolverine can give Hulk all hell by himself when entire teams fail to do so in comparison.
Hell the fact that he HAS WINS over Hulk and ties is pretty damned impressive too.

If anyone's already got it scanned I'll put it in.

It's still Spiderman you're talking about, the guy who dodged getting hit from 500 Hydra agents shooting machine guns.
He was vamped out and out of his right mind.

it's certainly implied to have already been made as Blade can be seen flailing/cringin/covering up. Gambit looked superior.

That doesn't seem to be the implication in MTU.

in there crossover it basically showed blade faught stronger enemies, had they faught blade wouldve won ( blade was wearing kevlar, when punisher did shoot him it did no damage)

oh battledwarf (I forget his name) has one scan in which wolverine catches abullet fired by a previous darkness

he was thinking, later he said he was rushing to get out before he completely lost control and hurt someone else, plus I'm not sure the writer knew muc habout spiderman, all Iknow is he wanted to bring blade into the marvel universe and establish him with other heroes, which is why he had blade fight: spiderman(beaten), union jack(beaten), wolverine(stalemated), and dr. doom(dr.doom didnt even need to try)

and before yo uargue wolverine wasnt trying know that wolverine was this writers sfavorite character and had written him before (he wrote his civil war arc) and had wolverine use an unclawed punch again a man he fully inteded to kill (in fact I've noticed even when fighting against sabretooth wolverine frequently pops out and sheaths his claws) even if it was bad writing (and the fight was pretty bad) it was meant to be a stalemate

his fight with gambit can be seen as a draw too, gambit blocked his word strike and it appears as if blade blocked gambits kick gambit did however land better we can't tell where the fight wouldve gone from there

also can you post wolverines best speed and skill feats please

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
his fight with gambit can be seen as a draw too, gambit blocked his word strike and it appears as if blade blocked gambits kick gambit did however land better we can't tell where the fight wouldve gone from there

You're seriously reaching here. If Blade was as skilled a martial artist as you're claiming he is he wouldn't have bellyflopped after blocking the kick. The only thing that explains the belly flop is if he wasn't in control of his movements or was a character like deadpool whom moves in ways that you normally shouldn't. As I can't imagine a stoic character like blade intending to land belly first, he clearly wasn't in control of how he landed.

Originally posted by YFZ 350
Where is it stated that Dracula is less powerful now than he was in the 70's and 80's? Sounds like fable. He seemed pretty powerful in the latest Tomb of Dracula series. Anyways Blade has also faced Dracula in the 70's. Although he didn't beat him he posed a greater threat than Wolverine ever did. Wolverine got WTF pwned.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
It has not been stated anywhere that I know of. It's a fable.

Here go debate the matter:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=482817

Obviously Blade can beat someone who gave each otf these people problems... so he should have no problem beating these characters... Totally not a SMvsFL situation with Blade beating dracula... 🙄

Originally posted by Creshosk
That's it the guantlet's going up...

Here go debate the matter:

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=482817

Obviously Blade can beat someone who gave each otf these people problems... so he should have no problem beating these characters... Totally not a SMvsFL situation with Blade beating dracula... 🙄

It really boils down to:

A) Dracula in his fights with Blade was powered down to be beaten easily.
B) Dracula in his fights with Apocalypse, Dr Strange, Thor, Silver Surfer and an X-Men team that included Cyclops, Storm, Shadowcat, Colossus, Nightcrawler and Wolverine, was powered up to even stand a teeny tiny chance.
C) Dracula is of consistent power and therefore Blade is of comparable power to any of the opponents or team of opponents collectively in B.
or
D) All of Dracula's opponents in B were powered down for him to even stand a teeny tiny chance.

The answer isn't C unless one is seriously deluded.

Is this any different than saying Wolverine faired better against Ghost Rider than Blade has?

They'd only be analogous if one was to look at Ghost Rider vs Wolverine and compare with Ghost Rider's other fights and find opponents ludicrously more powerful than Wolverine, which may make one rethink how Ghost Rider was portrayed, of course this would also be moot since the same opponents would be ludicrously more powerful than Blade.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
of course this would also be moot since the same opponents would be ludicrously more powerful than Blade.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot They'd only be analogous if one was to look at Ghost Rider vs Wolverine and compare with Ghost Rider's other fights and find opponents ludicrously more powerful than Wolverine, which may make one rethink how Ghost Rider was portrayed, of course this would also be moot since the same opponents would be ludicrously more powerful than Blade.

Originally posted by snoopdogg
And Wolverine.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
Yeah, that was in the part of my post you cut out... 🤨

Originally posted by snoopdogg
Does it really bother you that much that Blade faired better against Dracula than Wolverine has?

I also have to laugh at your response in the other thread.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
in there crossover it basically showed blade faught stronger enemies, had they faught blade wouldve won ( blade was wearing kevlar, when punisher did shoot him it did no damage)

Punisher did better with GR than Blade did.

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
and before yo uargue wolverine wasnt trying know that wolverine was this writers sfavorite character and had written him before (he wrote his civil war arc) and had wolverine use an unclawed punch again a man he fully inteded to kill (in fact I've noticed even when fighting against sabretooth wolverine frequently pops out and sheaths his claws) even if it was bad writing (and the fight was pretty bad) it was meant to be a stalemate

In Sabretooth's case "I don't know why I never pulled the trigger. Maybe it was some sick sense of loyalty to the friendship we were supposed to have back when...."

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
his fight with gambit can be seen as a draw too, gambit blocked his word strike and it appears as if blade blocked gambits kick gambit did however land better we can't tell where the fight wouldve gone from there

Originally posted by DestinyGuy678
also can you post wolverines best speed and skill feats please

Originally posted by jinzin
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And? Northstar pulled a "kung fu hustle" with a bullet feat.
She can react faster than northstar can in your opinion?

She can phase before she gets hit by a speedster the speed at which she phases is instanteous, also Northstar was shitting his pants, Kitty was not. That explains why she phased before he moved. However if Wolverine was somehow was less fast I dont think he would have got Northstar.

No I didnt respond to the rest of the post maybe later.

Originally posted by xmarksthespot
No he ran on the bundle of wires that Thing missed him with, depicted in the scan you posted here, where you ask when he was hit.
So basically you don't think he was hit immediately prior to running up the wires and question where he was hit immediately prior to running up the wires, and in fact having that scan know he dodged the wires then ran up them, but are still fully prepared to say that he was hit and immediately subsequently ran up the wires, to try and prove who knows what now.

He was hit on this page:

Which brings us all the way back to questions like "Have you even looked at the comic in question?" and "Do you actually read what you write or just pretend to play piano on the computer keyboard?" because the latter might be just a little bit more cogent.

He ran up the wires....so...ermm that proves that Thing was at a huge disadvantage because Thing ran up the wires?

Where was he hit?

Originally posted by Creshosk
Nope. It's PIS plain and simple. Its the fanboys who cling to it as if it weren't that bother me.

I also have to laugh at your response in the other thread.

Baal seemed pretty powerful. Could be wrong.