Originally posted by CaPzHow? Hotu had toaas power.
The Beyonder was created by Shooter,
to be another "God" separate from the one associated with the Marvel Universe.
In fact,
Beyonder's Multiverse was completely disconnected from the prime Marvel Multiverse,
so hence, the Beyonder's reality was like another company withIN Marvel.
(best way I can explain it by paraphrasing Shooter's own words)
The Infinity Being originally created all of Marvel, (all it's realities)
and was considered the Supreme being of the previous Universe,
the Infinity Being was everything, and everything was it,
it had no peers, it was absolute, and all of infinity was in it's power.
That's basically the same thing that Thanos acquired,
power over all of infinity in Marvel,
in other words, absolute power over all of Marvel; (or the Marvel Omniverse)
Originally posted by Knowsbleed33Ok, thanks. I know the IG was multiversal.
I wasn't sure about the Heart though.
IG makes one "God" beneath the LT.
That means that everyone beneath the LT, is beneath the IG,
and the IG is an incomplete Infinity Being ... so go figure.
Infinity Being must've been no joke,
and Beyonder definitely was.
Originally posted by Mr Master
THOTI makes one the Almighty Supreme being, withIN the Omniverse,
one could argue that Beyonder and the Infinity Being,
were Almighty Supreme beings in their own right.The Beyonder was created by Shooter,
to be another "God" separate from the one associated with the Marvel Universe.
In fact,
Beyonder's Multiverse was completely disconnected from the prime Marvel Multiverse,
so hence, the Beyonder's reality was like another company withIN Marvel.
(best way I can explain it by paraphrasing Shooter's own words)The Infinity Being originally created all of Marvel, (all it's realities)
and was considered the Supreme being of the previous Universe,
the Infinity Being was everything, and everything was it,
it had no peers, it was absolute, and all of infinity was in it's power.That's basically the same thing that Thanos acquired,
power over all of infinity in Marvel,
in other words, absolute power over all of Marvel; (or the Marvel Omniverse)The IG is trans-multiversal if you ask me.
IG makes one "God" beneath the LT.
That means that everyone beneath the LT, is beneath the IG,
and the IG is an incomplete Infinity Being ... so go figure.Infinity Being must've been no joke,
and Beyonder definitely was.
very interesting read thumbup1
Originally posted by Mr MasterInteresting. would you put classic molecule man above the infinity being? and Is the infinity being above LT?
THOTI makes one the Almighty Supreme being, withIN the Omniverse,
one could argue that Beyonder and the Infinity Being,
were Almighty Supreme beings in their own right.The Beyonder was created by Shooter,
to be another "God" separate from the one associated with the Marvel Universe.
In fact,
Beyonder's Multiverse was completely disconnected from the prime Marvel Multiverse,
so hence, the Beyonder's reality was like another company withIN Marvel.
(best way I can explain it by paraphrasing Shooter's own words)The Infinity Being originally created all of Marvel, (all it's realities)
and was considered the Supreme being of the previous Universe,
the Infinity Being was everything, and everything was it,
it had no peers, it was absolute, and all of infinity was in it's power.That's basically the same thing that Thanos acquired,
power over all of infinity in Marvel,
in other words, absolute power over all of Marvel; (or the Marvel Omniverse)The IG is trans-multiversal if you ask me.
IG makes one "God" beneath the LT.
That means that everyone beneath the LT, is beneath the IG,
and the IG is an incomplete Infinity Being ... so go figure.Infinity Being must've been no joke,
and Beyonder definitely was.
Originally posted by Lord Feronvery interesting read thumbup1
Originally posted by CaPzInteresting.
1. would you put classic molecule man above the infinity being?
2. and Is the infinity being above LT?
1. Nah, MM was the closest thing to the Beyonder,
but the Infinity Being did not exist at this point,
besides, the Infinity Being created MM, because it created everything.
The Infinity Being did not however create classic Beyonder,
since Beyonder's realm was a separate reality all its own.
According to Shooter (creator/writer of Secret Wars I-II and Editor in-Chief at the time)
literally stated that he created Beyonder to be "God" before Genesis. 🙂
(that's insane)
2. That's a good question,
and we've debated this in my personal thread in the past,
we came to the conclusion that the Infinity Being would've been above the LT.
The Infinity Being was seemingly in the previous Universe,
what the THOTI made Thanos in the current Universe.
Originally posted by Lord FeronAlways bothered me how Molecule was ranked so highly i mean he is very very amazing but how he got his powers is sooo mundane and yet he is up there with the likes of cosmic beings and gods lol
This is the fate of Man/Woman, (the Human race) to become Eternitys themselves,
to control their own beginnings/finalities,
to become one with "God" ...
So, it's not too surprising when we see Human evolution equalling/surpassing the cosmics,
someday, it will not be just an anomaly here and there like Owen Reece,
someday ... every Human being will personify "God-like" cosmics, including Aunt May.
Originally posted by Mr Master
Imo, only when it comes to the Infinity Being is there a possible debate
Nah.
Originally posted by Mr Master
or classic Beyonder
With CB yes.
Originally posted by Mr Master
The Beyonder was created by Shooter
That is why it can be a debate.
Originally posted by Mr Master
The Infinity Being originally created all of Marvel, (all it's realities)
and was considered the Supreme being of the previous Universe,
the Infinity Being was everything, and everything was it,
it had no peers, it was absolute, and all of infinity was in it's power.That's basically the same thing that Thanos acquired,
power over all of infinity in Marvel,
in other words, absolute power over all of Marvel; (or the Marvel Omniverse)
Still no. He is not absolute like THOTI (in terms of power), the power of TOAA. THOTI would probably still make out of IB like he did with everyone else, no matter what IB achieved and made. Nothing can compare to THOTI in terms of absolute.
IB was creted by TOAA and was given some kind of a job (to create Marvel Omniverse, except if IB literally had the power of TOAA like Thanos, or was only empowered or of course created to do his job and to be what he was in the previous, but was never stated like with THOTI), Thanos had his power. And IB was actually ended.
But we can debate that they pretty much have an equal feat (except that THOTI destroyed the opposition), but logical tells us that in a battle THOTI would prevail, because no one can challenge TOAA.
That is about TOAA, trully omnipotent, no matter how powerful someone is, Protege, SW, Scathan, especially LT, they seem truly omnipotent, but when TOAA comes, everything else becomes insignificant (like proven with THOTI).