Originally posted by Xplosive I already saw the scans, no need to show them again,
I know what I am talking about. If you agree, disagree, that's cool.
If you're saying,
that the IB was not the absolute Supreme Being in the previous universe,
then I'm sorry, but you don't know what you're saying.
So yea, I disagree with you.
Originally posted by Xplosive We also don't what was going when IB existed.
Who existed with and everything else...
Actually right above you just said,
you "know what you're talking about" concerning the IB,
and yet,
now don't know anything about the IB you're saying.
You said you "already seen the scans, no need to see them again"
and now you're saying,
you "don't know what was going on when the IB existed"
"who existed and everything else"
???
I already posted the scans explaining it all, (you said you saw them)
so how can you not know?
The Infinity Being was the embodiment of EVERYTHING in the previous Universe,
the IB had power over EVERYTHING in the previous Universe,
the IB was the "GOD" "Supreme Being"of the previous Universe,
of course it was the Supreme Being (GOD)
because it was the ONLY Sentience in existence.
Everything else, (as in All other life in the previous universe)
was part of the IB's sentience,
this is why the IB was lonely, cause nothing was apart from it.
Originally posted by Xplosive He was absolute, but again,
only THOTI is mentioned to be the supreme power within Omniverse,
having actually TOAA power within Omniverse.
So, literally absolute power form the absolute being.
That is enough to be above anyone ever withing Omniverse.
Again, they were both absolute powers.
The IB was everything in the previous Universe, with power over everything.
THOTI made Thanos everything in the current Universe, with power over everything.
btw. For the last time,
Thanos did NOT become,
Toaa/god that are creating/drawing what takes place on panel in Marvel heaven.
Thanos became the Toaa/god (Supreme Being withIN the Omniverse.
Originally posted by Xplosive Yes, but still only with THOTI it was said to be the supreme power.
Well the Infinity Being was the Supreme power of the previous Universe,
the IB was the ONLY Sentience in existence,
the
Infinity Being not only originally
created ALL the Realities in Marvelbut it also created the Infinity Gems,
(which as we know the IG also makes one God, Supreme Being beneath the LT)
So imagine what the Infinity Being itself would be,
when the IG is only part of it's totality.
Originally posted by Xplosive I was saying about IB and THOTI, not Beyonder.
But still, about scaring LT and destroy LT, it's a no contest. THOTI wins here.
Not that Beyonder wouldn't be able, but still, he scared him and others,
but that really isn't something.
No need to bring what Beyonder did, I know, I am only talking about that case. Destroying and scaring, THOTI was more impressive here.
I disagree.
Originally posted by Xplosive Yes, but THOTI is the only thing that TOAA write to give his power within Omniverse,
only THOTI.
It was never mentioned about IB or anyone else.
But Thanos literally wielded the supreme power.
That is why I give THOTI above anyone else in Marvel.
IB was absolute when he was,
but never said he truly wielded the supreme power in the Marvel.
There is the difference.
What the heck are you talking about?
What do you mean nothing was mentioned about the IB having Supreme power?
AGAIN!!!
"This Being was the only Living Thing that Existed within Any and ALL Realities"
"It ALL That Was and ALL that Was, Was it "
Then Thanos says,
"I wouldn't blame you for calling it GOD ...
What other name would fit?"
(which makes sense)
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"ALL That Was, Was already Part of Itself ... there was NO Other in it's Life"
"It chose to put an End to itself ...
from it's Ashes rose ALL That is currently Reality ... in ALL it's many forms"
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Diana of the Dark Shoppe (from another Multiverse) basically tells the same tale:
"Many Millennia ago in your Universe, (the Prime Multiverse that is)
there was a God with the power of Infinity,
even with control of ALL that is,
the God's loneliness could not be soothed, by his own hand he died"
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Originally posted by Xplosive Without TOAA,
LT could be absolute if he went mad and wanted to do what he want.
No one would be able to stop him,
he could become absolute and end Marvel Omniverse.
But when THOTI comes, even such as LT becomes insignificant.
Besides Beyonder, THOTI is the only one who shown no limits.
Several beings can takes over all of Space-Time in Marvel if they wanted.
The LT is (in a way) the Supreme Being of Marvel, (in terms of power)
but he's really not of course,
because the LT is the voice/representative of Toaa/god in Marvel heaven (sorta speak)
So its no surprise if Toaa/god ceased to exist,
the LT would be the next in line in power.
Although, without Toaa/god in Marvel heaven,
the Marvel Universe would cease to exist as well.
Originally posted by Xplosive Scarlet Witch was pretty much omnipotent, more than IG ever shown,
but we know (can logically assume)
when she would face LT she wouldn't be able to do much against him.
That is why I think no matter how powerful, what IB was,
against THOTI wouldn't matter much like no one else did. That is my opinion.
Cool, I completely disagree, especially based on your reasoning.
Btw. IG > Scarlet Witch.
Originally posted by Xplosive that is why we say THOTI is a TOAA (supreme being) power,
supreme power within Omniverse.
But Thanos with THOTI wasn't supreme being, but wielded supreme power.
This didn't make any sense when GS said right here in previous page:
Originally posted by GalacticStorm The power Thanos wielded made him the supreme being of reality.
That doesnt equate to the supreme being. Its different.
And it still makes no sense now.
Research your own material,
develop your own opinions,
I know you usually swallow anything he says but,
regurgitating other's fallacies isn't cool
Originally posted by Xplosive But the point is that TOAA has never being mentioned as TOAA
This isn't true either friend.
The One Above All (referring to LT's master)
has been mentioned several times on panel,
and his name personifying the Supreme Being creator of Marvel,
is confirmed in 2008 Marvel Handbooks:
Here Protege mentions TOAA twice:
Here the LT says, there is ONLY ONE ABOVE the LT:
Marvel tells us the name of that ONE entity above the LT:
"The Living Tribunal's ONLY superior is TOAA"
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Here (On Panel) the LT himself mentions who that one is by name:
"May The One Above All forgive you"
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Official Marvel Handbooks of 2008,
also clarify for us what the Marvel Omniverse is,
and,
what TOAA is,
what TOAA did:
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1. Omniverse
2. TOAA
1. "Group of alternate universeS which encompasses ALL Reality"
2. The entity believed to be the Supreme being/Creator of the Omniverse"
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Btw. On Panel evidence agrees 100% with this bio:
"Reality ... Brian came to realize the size and breadth of Reality,
he learned of the Omniverse and its unending alternatives,
Alternative Realities ...
the Omniverse is the collection of All those possibilities"
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