HOTU Thanos vs Scathan the Approver,Phoenix,LT & Infinites

Started by starlock6 pages

Originally posted by Mr Master
👆 and ... 😂

You "see his point?"

Protege has absolutely nothing to with THOTI or the events in "The End: Marvel"

Protege was erased from existence 9 years prior.

Also, Protege never proved to be above the LT,
neither did Scathan.

The point is he is guessing...just like everyone else who thinks its TOAA's Power 😉

It's a openion starlock, like GS and you discredit it as being the Supremes Power, Galan and Mr Master thinks the statements and the On Panel showing is enough to make that conclusion. In the end it really doesn't matter much Thanos still wins.

One question have the TOAA ever been mentioned as The One Above all in Comics???

Originally posted by Utrigita
One question have the TOAA ever been mentioned as The One Above all in Comics???

I don't believe he ever has.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm

Of course theres room for interpretation, the point isnt verified by any official source.


Not imo.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm

Hierarchy changes regularly in comics.
Because LT said he was second to only God,
does not mean that in subsequent comics where he was defeated
that the power Thanos wielded was Gods.

It could mean that the hierarchy changed.


I disagree.

The Cosmic Hierarchy has been virtually the same since 1985:

Originally posted by GalacticStorm

That is a possibility that cant be denied.
The very fact that such a possibility exists is because there is no official verification of the point youre trying to make.
Therefore there is very much room for interpretation.


I disagree.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm

Thanos claiming to be the supreme being
and someone in his presence not disagreeing on panel,
does not equate to agreement. It just means they said nothing.


Nice spin on the facts.

But actually, On Panel, Eternity did answer, and his answer was concrete:

Originally posted by Mr Master
..................................................................................................

Thanos says:

"Eternity, you must sense that Everything the Almighty was I now am,

did you ever dare demand anything from Him"

Eternity responds,

"No, but" .... (Eternity is actually acknowledging that Thanos speaks the truth)

..................................................................................................

"And I, like He was, am now the Author of All That Will Be ...

my Will is Supreme"

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Hmm ... and Thor agrees that Thanos does in fact possess "The Supreme Power" ...

"Thanos has usurped the Power Supreme,
and now reigns over All Reality
"

......................................................................................

So did Eternity:

"Relinquish the Supreme Power you have stolen"

Originally posted by GalacticStorm

On top of that Lower beings can be forgiven for not contradicting Thanos' assertions because as far as their comparatively limited perceptions allow them to know, the power Thanos wielded was supreme.


So Eternity (embodiment of All Time) is a being of limited perceptions?

Yet, although Eternity/Warlock/Thor said it on panel,
although it was stated in Thanos' bio he became the "SUPREME BEING"
although Thanos proved it by absorbing the LT, all Heroes, and all Space-Time,
we should still dismiss all of their claims, and all of Thanos' actions as evidence.

Cool.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm

LT who works for TOAA made no such agreement.
LT who abides by the power of TOAA stood against Thanos.


Is that why LT who works for TOAA,
decided to bring with him practically the entire Marvel Universe to back him up?

Seems like the LT knew Thanos was packing a bigger punch than him,
which tells me the LT recognized Thanos did in fact possess the Supreme Power.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm

The power Thanos wielded made him the supreme being of reality.
That doesnt equate to the supreme being. Its different.


😆

Master please keep it down this could turn into a interesting discussion to observe 🙂

Originally posted by GalacticStorm

I'm quite certain that Eternity and his counterparts
dont compose the sum of all that is Marvel.


Eternity/Infinity's essence/consciousness stretches across the prime Multiverse,
the substance of their form (Space-Time) continues on into the infinite MultiverseS.

Eternity/Infinity and the LT's bio all stated,
that Thanos either erased "All Reality" or "All Existence"

The story was titled: "The End: Marvel"

Originally posted by GalacticStorm

You use Marvel.com when it suits your purpose,
otherwise you condemn it as fan composed in cases where the site contradicts your argument


So basically you're gonna now dismiss Thanos' bio evidence,
by diverting attention to an off-topic drivel concerning your interpretation of my debating tactics.

Nice twist of a spin.

Doesn't change this FACT though:

(excerpt from Thanos' bio)

http://www.marvel.com/universe/Thanos

" ... Known as the Heart of the Universe,
from which all energy physical and metaphysical emanates,
and thereby gained infinite power ...

... Thanos decided that the true sign of his ultimate power,
would be to destroy the universe
and become the One true Supreme Being
... "

Originally posted by GalacticStorm

Can you post some scans of Thanos' most recent bio
stating whats said on that link please?

No selectively cropped paragraphs.
Just throw in the whole thing, i've got good eyes


Where am I selectively cropping scans?

I posted the freakin link dude,
I quoted the relevant excerpt that pertains to this specific debate.

You claimed there wasn't a bio that stated Thanos was the Supreme Being,

well you were Wrong,
now you wanna wiggle your way around that,
this is where our debates degenerate cause that just pisses me off.

Originally posted by Utrigita
It's a openion starlock, like GS and you discredit it as being the Supremes Power, Galan and Mr Master thinks the statements and the On Panel showing is enough to make that conclusion. In the end it really doesn't matter much Thanos still wins.

One question have the TOAA ever been mentioned as The One Above all in Comics???

Utrigita i know that.... and you would know i know if you would have read my posts...I never even made a attempt to say who would win, i was reading the thread when Xplosive..dubbed the HOTU as TOAA's Power

And i quoted him and got into a discusion with masters...a very respectfull discussion i might add, i said in my post...i dont have a problem with someones opinon, that it is TOAA's power, but when in a vs thread it is stated as definite...i need proof, and i have not seen any.... 🙂

Originally posted by starlock
Utrigita i know that.... and you would know i know if you would have read my posts...I never even made a attempt to say who would win, i was reading the thread when Xplosive..dubbed the HOTU as TOAA's Power

And i quoted him and got into a discusion with masters...a very respectfull discussion i might add, i said in my post...i dont have a problem with someones opinon, that it is TOAA's power, but when in a vs thread it is stated as definite...i need proof, and i have not seen any.... 🙂

Sorry my bad just looked over the last post. And the last part of my post was not directed towards you but simply to state my own opinion on who would win the battle.

I will ask my previous question to you too then, Has The One Above All ever been mentioned by that name On panel ore simply by a multitude of references???

Originally posted by starlock
Utrigita i know that.... and you would know i know if you would have read my posts...I never even made a attempt to say who would win, i was reading the thread when Xplosive..dubbed the HOTU as TOAA's Power

And i quoted him and got into a discusion with masters...a very respectfull discussion i might add, i said in my post...i dont have a problem with someones opinon, that it is TOAA's power, but when in a vs thread it is stated as definite...i need proof, and i have not seen any.... 🙂

I can't remember an instance where the TOAA has ever actually been referred to as TOAA. I think that's just what we call him/ her here to get the point across.

I don't think there will be reference to TOAA as TOAA. But there was reference to THOTI being ALMIGHY, and SUPREME, which are two words that perfectly describe TOAA.

It may or may not be an opinion that THOTI was the Almighty's power. But if it IS an opinion, it's a very well supported opinion......IMO.

Just my two cense 🙂

Originally posted by Unnatural-POWER
Thanos was above LT.

Thanos HOTI >> LT = / > Scathan >> Infinites >> Phoenix

Thanos wins without even getting out of his chair!

Originally posted by Mr Master
Actually, Ya!

I already saw the scans, no need to show them again, I know what I am talking about. If you agree, disagree, that's cool.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Right, ... caaaause that's all I posted.

When I said it can be debated between Beyonder and THOTI I meant it. So, you didn't need to bring again those scans. And I already saw them and agreed with you.

Originally posted by Mr Master
It seems you're not familiar with what the Infinity Being was.

Well, now with the proof I presented, you know the facts.

The Infinity Being was absolute, as absolute as one can get

We also don't what was going when IB existed. Who existed with and everything else...
He was absolute, but again, only THOTI is mentioned to be the supreme power within Omniverse, having actually TOAA power within Omniverse. So, literally absolute power form the absolute being. That is enough to be above anyone ever withing Omniverse.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I never said the Infinity Being had anything to do with TOAA.

And btw. ... Thanos had the power of TOAA withIN the Omniverse,
but Thanos did NOT have the power of Toaa/God's avatars,
Toaa/God's avatars (FF#511) create and draw everything that takes place On Panel,
including LT/Thanos/THOTI/IB and anything else.

Yes, but still only with THOTI it was said to be the supreme power.

Originally posted by Mr Master
The Infinity Being was the only individual Sentience in all Creation,
every other particle in existence was part of the Infinity Being,
the Infinity Being was God absolute and only in the previous Universe.
Originally posted by Mr Master
And Beyonder scared the opposition,
including the LT who wasn't scared to attack Thanos.

I was saying about IB and THOTI, not Beyonder. But still, about scaring LT and destroy LT, it's a no contest. THOTI wins here.
Not that Beyonder wouldn't be able, but still, he scared him and others, but that really isn't something.
No need to bring what Beyonder did, I know, I am only talking about that case. Destroying and scaring, THOTI was more impressive here.

Originally posted by Mr Master
TOAA/God [B]created and drew the HOTI on a piece of paper,
and made a story out of it called "The End: Marvel"[/B]

Yes, but THOTI is the only thing that TOAA write to give his power within Omniverse, only THOTI. It was never mentioned about IB or anyone else. But Thanos literally wielded the supreme power.
That is why I give THOTI above anyone else in Marvel. IB was absolute when he was, but never said he truly wielded the supreme power in the Marvel. There is the difference.

Without TOAA, LT could be absolute if he went mad and wanted to do what he want. No one would be able to stop him, he could become absolute and end Marvel Omniverse. But when THOTI comes, even such as LT becomes insignificant. Besides Beyonder, THOTI is the only one who shown no limits.
Scarlet Witch was pretty much omnipotent, more than IG ever shown, but we know (can logically assume) when she would face LT she wouldn't be able to do much against him.
That is why I think no matter how powerful, what IB was, against THOTI wouldn't matter much like no one else did. That is my opinion.

Originally posted by starlock
The point is he is guessing...just like everyone else who thinks its TOAA's Power 😉

Yes, literally we are guessing, because there is nowhere said it's TOAA powers, only supreme power, that is why we say THOTI is a TOAA (supreme being) power, supreme power within Omniverse.
But Thanos with THOTI wasn't supreme being, but wielded supreme power.

I think we can safely say it was TOAA power within Omniverse and he actually shown no limitations (something we can expect only from true supreme being).
But the point is that TOAA has never being mentioned as TOAA, even when Stan Lee entered the Marvel and debated with Impossible Man.
But we can guess that he is the true Almighty.

Originally posted by Xplosive

I already saw the scans, no need to show them again,
I know what I am talking about. If you agree, disagree, that's cool.


If you're saying,
that the IB was not the absolute Supreme Being in the previous universe,
then I'm sorry, but you don't know what you're saying.

So yea, I disagree with you.

Originally posted by Xplosive

We also don't what was going when IB existed.

Who existed with and everything else...


Actually right above you just said,
you "know what you're talking about" concerning the IB,
and yet,
now don't know anything about the IB you're saying.

You said you "already seen the scans, no need to see them again"
and now you're saying,
you "don't know what was going on when the IB existed"
"who existed and everything else"

???

I already posted the scans explaining it all, (you said you saw them)
so how can you not know?

The Infinity Being was the embodiment of EVERYTHING in the previous Universe,
the IB had power over EVERYTHING in the previous Universe,
the IB was the "GOD" "Supreme Being"of the previous Universe,
of course it was the Supreme Being (GOD)
because it was the ONLY Sentience in existence.

Everything else, (as in All other life in the previous universe)
was part of the IB's sentience,
this is why the IB was lonely, cause nothing was apart from it.

Originally posted by Xplosive

He was absolute, but again,
only THOTI is mentioned to be the supreme power within Omniverse,
having actually TOAA power within Omniverse.
So, literally absolute power form the absolute being.
That is enough to be above anyone ever withing Omniverse.


Again, they were both absolute powers.

The IB was everything in the previous Universe, with power over everything.

THOTI made Thanos everything in the current Universe, with power over everything.

btw. For the last time,

Thanos did NOT become,
Toaa/god that are creating/drawing what takes place on panel in Marvel heaven.

Thanos became the Toaa/god (Supreme Being withIN the Omniverse.

Originally posted by Xplosive

Yes, but still only with THOTI it was said to be the supreme power.


Well the Infinity Being was the Supreme power of the previous Universe,
the IB was the ONLY Sentience in existence,
the Infinity Being not only originally created ALL the Realities in Marvel
but it also created the Infinity Gems,
(which as we know the IG also makes one God, Supreme Being beneath the LT)

So imagine what the Infinity Being itself would be,
when the IG is only part of it's totality.

Originally posted by Xplosive

I was saying about IB and THOTI, not Beyonder.
But still, about scaring LT and destroy LT, it's a no contest. THOTI wins here.
Not that Beyonder wouldn't be able, but still, he scared him and others,
but that really isn't something.
No need to bring what Beyonder did, I know, I am only talking about that case. Destroying and scaring, THOTI was more impressive here.


I disagree.

Originally posted by Xplosive

Yes, but THOTI is the only thing that TOAA write to give his power within Omniverse,
only THOTI.
It was never mentioned about IB or anyone else.
But Thanos literally wielded the supreme power.
That is why I give THOTI above anyone else in Marvel.
IB was absolute when he was,
but never said he truly wielded the supreme power in the Marvel.
There is the difference.


What the heck are you talking about?

What do you mean nothing was mentioned about the IB having Supreme power?

AGAIN!!!

"This Being was the only Living Thing that Existed within Any and ALL Realities"

"It ALL That Was and ALL that Was, Was it "

Then Thanos says,

"I wouldn't blame you for calling it GOD ...

What other name would fit?"

(which makes sense)
................................................................................

"ALL That Was, Was already Part of Itself ... there was NO Other in it's Life"

"It chose to put an End to itself ...

from it's Ashes rose ALL That is currently Reality ... in ALL it's many forms"

................................................................................

Diana of the Dark Shoppe (from another Multiverse) basically tells the same tale:

"Many Millennia ago in your Universe, (the Prime Multiverse that is)
there was a God with the power of Infinity,
even with control of ALL that is,
the God's loneliness could not be soothed, by his own hand he died
"

................................................................................

Originally posted by Xplosive

Without TOAA,
LT could be absolute if he went mad and wanted to do what he want.
No one would be able to stop him,
he could become absolute and end Marvel Omniverse.
But when THOTI comes, even such as LT becomes insignificant.
Besides Beyonder, THOTI is the only one who shown no limits.


Several beings can takes over all of Space-Time in Marvel if they wanted.

The LT is (in a way) the Supreme Being of Marvel, (in terms of power)
but he's really not of course,
because the LT is the voice/representative of Toaa/god in Marvel heaven (sorta speak)

So its no surprise if Toaa/god ceased to exist,
the LT would be the next in line in power.

Although, without Toaa/god in Marvel heaven,
the Marvel Universe would cease to exist as well.

Originally posted by Xplosive

Scarlet Witch was pretty much omnipotent, more than IG ever shown,
but we know (can logically assume)
when she would face LT she wouldn't be able to do much against him.

That is why I think no matter how powerful, what IB was,
against THOTI wouldn't matter much like no one else did. That is my opinion.


Cool, I completely disagree, especially based on your reasoning.

Btw. IG > Scarlet Witch.

Originally posted by Xplosive

that is why we say THOTI is a TOAA (supreme being) power,
supreme power within Omniverse.

But Thanos with THOTI wasn't supreme being, but wielded supreme power.


This didn't make any sense when GS said right here in previous page:
Originally posted by GalacticStorm

The power Thanos wielded made him the supreme being of reality.

That doesnt equate to the supreme being. Its different.


And it still makes no sense now.

Research your own material,
develop your own opinions,
I know you usually swallow anything he says but,
regurgitating other's fallacies isn't cool

Originally posted by Xplosive

But the point is that TOAA has never being mentioned as TOAA


This isn't true either friend.

The One Above All (referring to LT's master)
has been mentioned several times on panel,
and his name personifying the Supreme Being creator of Marvel,
is confirmed in 2008 Marvel Handbooks:

Here Protege mentions TOAA twice:

Here the LT says, there is ONLY ONE ABOVE the LT:

Marvel tells us the name of that ONE entity above the LT:

"The Living Tribunal's ONLY superior is TOAA"

......................................................................................

Here (On Panel) the LT himself mentions who that one is by name:

"May The One Above All forgive you"

......................................................................................

Official Marvel Handbooks of 2008,
also clarify for us what the Marvel Omniverse is,
and,
what TOAA is,
what TOAA did:

......................................................................................

1. Omniverse

2. TOAA

1. "Group of alternate universeS which encompasses ALL Reality"

2. The entity believed to be the Supreme being/Creator of the Omniverse"

..........................................................................

..........................................................................

Btw. On Panel evidence agrees 100% with this bio:

"Reality ... Brian came to realize the size and breadth of Reality,
he learned of the Omniverse and its unending alternatives,
Alternative Realities ...
the Omniverse is the collection of All those possibilities"

..........................................................................

Originally posted by Mr Master
If you're saying,
that the IB was not the absolute Supreme Being in the previous universe,
then I'm sorry, but you don't know what you're saying.

So yea, I disagree with you.

I never said he wasn't absolute then. But then again, for IB it's only said he was the only living thing then. So of course he will be absolute.
You don't see what I am trying to say. THOTI and IB were created by TOAA, but only for THOTI is mentioned to be the power directly from TOAA withing the Omniverse. That is enough for me to be above all ever in Marvel Universe.
If you take IB from then somehow and Thanos with THOTI to face each other, I say THOTI makes out of him like he did it with everyone else.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Research your own material,
develop your own opinions,
I know you usually swallow anything he says but,
regurgitating other's fallacies isn't cool

I said that not because of him. It is logical and true and it does make sense (I don't know how you can't see that), THOTI was the supreme power from the absolute being withing the Omniverse, but still the one who wields it, is not the supreme being.
There is still The One Above All

Originally posted by Mr Master
This isn't true either friend.

Ok, I see. Thanks! Cool.

Originally posted by Mr Master
If you're saying,
that the IB was not the absolute Supreme Being in the previous universe,
then I'm sorry, but you don't know what you're saying.

So yea, I disagree with you.

Actually right above you just said,
you "know what you're talking about" concerning the IB,
and yet,
now don't know anything about the IB you're saying.

You said you "already seen the scans, no need to see them again"
and now you're saying,
you "don't know what was going on when the IB existed"
"who existed and everything else"

???

I already posted the scans explaining it all, (you said you saw them)
so how can you not know?

The Infinity Being was the embodiment of EVERYTHING in the previous Universe,
the IB had power over EVERYTHING in the previous Universe,
the IB was the "GOD" "Supreme Being"of the previous Universe,
of course it was the Supreme Being (GOD)
because it was the ONLY Sentience in existence.

Everything else, (as in All other life in the previous universe)
was part of the IB's sentience,
this is why the IB was lonely, cause nothing was apart from it.

Again, they were both absolute powers.

The IB was everything in the previous Universe, with power over everything.

THOTI made Thanos everything in the current Universe, with power over everything.

btw. For the last time,

Thanos did NOT become,
Toaa/god that are creating/drawing what takes place on panel in Marvel heaven.

Thanos became the Toaa/god (Supreme Being withIN the Omniverse.

Well the Infinity Being was the Supreme power of the previous Universe,
the IB was the ONLY Sentience in existence,
the [B]Infinity Being
not only originally created ALL the Realities in Marvel
but it also created the Infinity Gems,
(which as we know the IG also makes one God, Supreme Being beneath the LT)

So imagine what the Infinity Being itself would be,
when the IG is only part of it's totality.

I disagree.

What the heck are you talking about?

What do you mean nothing was mentioned about the IB having Supreme power?

AGAIN!!!

"This Being was the only Living Thing that Existed within Any and ALL Realities"

"It ALL That Was and ALL that Was, Was it "

Then Thanos says,

"I wouldn't blame you for calling it GOD ...

What other name would fit?"

(which makes sense)
................................................................................

"ALL That Was, Was already Part of Itself ... there was NO Other in it's Life"

"It chose to put an End to itself ...

from it's Ashes rose ALL That is currently Reality ... in ALL it's many forms"

................................................................................

Diana of the Dark Shoppe (from another Multiverse) basically tells the same tale:

"Many Millennia ago in your Universe, (the Prime Multiverse that is)
there was a God with the power of Infinity,
even with control of ALL that is,
the God's loneliness could not be soothed, by his own hand he died
"

................................................................................

Several beings can takes over all of Space-Time in Marvel if they wanted.

The LT is (in a way) the Supreme Being of Marvel, (in terms of power)
but he's really not of course,
because the LT is the voice/representative of Toaa/god in Marvel heaven (sorta speak)

So its no surprise if Toaa/god ceased to exist,
the LT would be the next in line in power.

Although, without Toaa/god in Marvel heaven,
the Marvel Universe would cease to exist as well.

Cool, I completely disagree, especially based on your reasoning.

Btw. IG > Scarlet Witch.

This didn't make any sense when GS said right here in previous page:

And it still makes no sense now.

Research your own material,
develop your own opinions,
I know you usually swallow anything he says but,
regurgitating other's fallacies isn't cool

This isn't true either friend.

The One Above All (referring to LT's master)
has been mentioned several times on panel,
and his name personifying the Supreme Being creator of Marvel,
is confirmed in 2008 Marvel Handbooks:

Here Protege mentions TOAA twice:

Here the LT says, there is ONLY ONE ABOVE the LT:

Marvel tells us the name of that ONE entity above the LT:

"The Living Tribunal's ONLY superior is TOAA"

......................................................................................

Here (On Panel) the LT himself mentions who that one is by name:

"May The One Above All forgive you"

......................................................................................

Official Marvel Handbooks of 2008,
also clarify for us what the Marvel Omniverse is,
and,
what TOAA is,
what TOAA did:

......................................................................................

1. Omniverse

2. TOAA

1. "Group of alternate universeS which encompasses ALL Reality"

2. The entity believed to be the Supreme being/Creator of the Omniverse"

..........................................................................

..........................................................................

Btw. On Panel evidence agrees 100% with this bio:

"Reality ... Brian came to realize the size and breadth of Reality,
he learned of the Omniverse and its unending alternatives,
Alternative Realities ...
the Omniverse is the collection of All those possibilities"

.......................................................................... [/B]

Is this the only time TOAA has been mentioned by name??? In a comic filled with PIS, and by a kid that seemed close to insanity???

Originally posted by Xplosive

I never said he wasn't absolute then.
But then again,
for IB it's only said he was the only living thing then.
So of course he will be absolute.


Actually the IB was only Sentience, not the only living thing.

There was an infinite Universe filled with beings of all sorts,
heck, even the PF was there, and it too, was just a part of the IB.

The IB was lonely because everything was a part of it,
so in order to have a separate existence from the rest of reality,
the IB created the current Marvel Universe, which the IB did not encompass,
but the IB wanted to continue to exist,
so the IB also created the Infinity Gems,
in order to exist withIN the current Marvel Universe, and yet still be apart from it.

Originally posted by Xplosive

You don't see what I am trying to say.
THOTI and IB were created by TOAA,
but only for THOTI is mentioned to be the power directly from TOAA withing the Omniverse.
That is enough for me to be above all ever in Marvel Universe.


TOAA created THOTI and the IB,
but THOTI did not create the IB,
and THOTI is not TOAA either.

THOTI makes you the Supreme Being ("God"😉 withIN the Marvel Reality,
but THOTI does not make you the Toaa/God ("writers/artists"😉 situated in Marvel heaven,
Marvel heaven is a fictional representation of the comic studios of Marvel.

The mistake you're making is that you're equating TOAA with THOTI,
and that just isn't the case.

TOAA >infinity> THOTI

Originally posted by Xplosive

If you take IB from then somehow and Thanos with THOTI to face each other, I say THOTI makes out of him like he did it with everyone else.


Who knows,
but imo,
since they were both absolute Supreme Beings (God) over all creation,
there's an argument where the IB stalemates.

Originally posted by Xplosive

I said that not because of him.
It is logical and true and it does make sense
(I don't know how you can't see that)


Still doesn't make sense, not now, not ever.
(I don't know how you can't see that) either.
Originally posted by Xplosive

THOTI was the supreme power from the absolute being withing the Omniverse, but still the one who wields it, is not the supreme being.
There is still The One Above All


TOAA/God, is inconsequential,
cause everything in the Marvel Omniverse is just drawings on a piece of paper to them,
so TOAA/God shouldn't even be categorized with their drawings on paper.

TOAA/God (writers/artists) avatar,
created and drew a story on paper called "The End: Marvel" (a comic book)
a story where THOTI made Thanos the Supreme Being of the Marvel Omniverse.

Simple and plain.

Originally posted by Xplosive

Ok, I see. Thanks! Cool.


Anytime friend. 🙂

Originally posted by Utrigita

Is this the only time TOAA has been mentioned by name???


Nah, TOAA has been mentioned several times,
but I didn't think I had to post every instance,
I just wanted to show X that indeed, TOAA has been mentioned on panel,
and confirmed to be exactly that withIN several Handbooks as well.

Originally posted by Utrigita

In a comic filled with PIS, and by a kid that seemed close to insanity???


Never knew he was insane,
but I guess you missed the Living Tribunal mentioning TOAA's name friend:

"May The One Above All forgive you"

......................................................................................

This is why I always tell folks,
please review a post before replying to it. 🙂

At the end of the day, it has never been officially confirmed that the HOTI was actually the Marvel Gods power.

It was suggested on panel, but never confirmed.

Not a single bio(and there were several which referenced the event) confirmed the HOTI as the supreme beings power.

LT the only being we know who has direct contact with Marvels supreme being, did not acknowledge it as his masters power.

LT who serves his masters wishes even stood up against the power.

Im not saying the power is NOT the supreme beings power, i'm saying it was never officially confirmed only alluded to on panel.

Thanos has called the IG gods power, it conclusively was NOT. It was nothing of the sort. Lower beings of comparatively limited perception and power could and would understandably acknowledge a power as supreme if it is beyond all that they know and hold sacred. To a hero like Thor who is puny in the scheme of things, of course a power beyond the likes of Odin and even the abstracts is going to seem supreme. His word is not gospel.

Eternity knows nothing of the supreme being.Only LT has that honour as far as we know. A power far beyond his own, given who and what he is is going to be supreme as far as he is concerned. His word on matters he has no knowledge of, matters far beyond his understanding similarly is not the gospel truth.

Its like taking the opinion of Jubilee on the inner workings of Galactus and his World Ship as conclusive evidence about a debate regarding Galactus. It just isnt good enough.

The only reputable on panel opinion would be from a character that by canon has interaction with the supreme being and that is LT.

This point cannot be denied.

Whilst your opinion is understandable, it has not been verified as fact, therefore it needs to be made clear in debates that what you're presenting to us is just opinion that is alluded to on panel, but never conclusively proven.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Nah, TOAA has been mentioned several times,
but I didn't think I had to post every instance,
I just wanted to show X that indeed, TOAA has been mentioned on panel,
and confirmed to be exactly that withIN several Handbooks as well.

Never knew he was insane,
but I guess you missed the Living Tribunal mentioning TOAA's name friend:

"May The One Above All forgive you"

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This is why I always tell folks,
please review a post before replying to it. 🙂

It's out of curiosity master that I would like this information regarding the direct mention of TOAA's name in more then this one comic one more would survice.

He seemed close to insanity imo based on the fact that he seriously believed that he would gain the power of TOAA by copying the power of LT. And I didn't in any way overlook the scan master, I simply asked the question that IF this was the only place TOAA's name had been mentioned? in a comic that again imo is filled with PIS. 🙂

Originally posted by Utrigita

It's out of curiosity master that I would like this information regarding the direct mention of TOAA's name in more then this one comic one more would survice.


Cool.
Originally posted by Utrigita

He seemed close to insanity imo based on the fact that he seriously believed that he would gain the power of TOAA by copying the power of LT.


He bit off more than he could chew, but he wasn't insane,
he was a spoiled brat with absolute power.
Originally posted by Utrigita

And I didn't in any way overlook the scan master,
I simply asked the question that IF this was the only place TOAA's name had been mentioned?
in a comic that again imo is filled with PIS.


Actually you said is this the only mention of Toaa name,
is this pis comic and by an insane boy?

I pointed out the scan where the LT mentioned TOAA's by name.

Originally posted by GalacticStorm
At the end of the day

😂 I have my roller skates on.