Originally posted by Hewhoknowsall
Dooku can't be superior to Mace. Otherwise:Dooku > Mace
Obi Wan > Anakin
Anakin > Dooku
Mace > Sidious
Sidious = Yoda
so...
Obi Wan > Anakin > Dooku > Mace > Sidious = Yoda
...
This is the second time I've seen you do this. You should stop. This type of debating pattern is not only illogical but looks rather ridiculous.
Originally posted by Genesis
This is the second time I've seen you do this. You should stop. This type of debating pattern is not only illogical but looks rather ridiculous.
How is it illogical? If so and so can beat Bob, and Bob can beat Joe, then why can't so and so beat Joe too? It's like you outnumber a huge army but get outnumbered by a small one.
Originally posted by HewhoknowsallYou don't factor in variables and extenuating factors, such as mentality or environment. Variables like Mace's Vaapad and Shatterpoint, mentality such as Anakin's on Mustafar, and environment such as the Senate Rotunda.
How is it illogical? If so and so can beat Bob, and Bob can beat Joe, then why can't so and so beat Joe too? It's like you outnumber a huge army but get outnumbered by a small one.
This isn't some sort of RPG where Mace's attack of 54 is countered by Dooku's 49 defence. There are no stats. as such.
Originally posted by Lord Lucien
You don't factor in variables and extenuating factors, such as mentality or environment. Variables like Mace's Vaapad and Shatterpoint, mentality such as Anakin's on Mustafar, and environment such as the Senate Rotunda.This isn't some sort of RPG where Mace's attack of 54 is countered by Dooku's 49 defence. There are no stats. as such.
Mace's vaapad will also work on Dooku. Anakin fighting unintelligently is a valid part of the fight; it's his fault that he was being stupid
Originally posted by Gideon
He was being sarcastic. For him, it's a coping mechanism to deal with his many defeats.
The only mechanism here is me laughing when you're posting. That aside I'm not affected by actions that only happen in your wet dreams.
@Hewhodoesnotmakesense:
How is Anakin > Mace? That was a surprise attack and the two weren't fighting/Mace wasn't excepting it.
Good god, Sally. The concept of sarcasm clearly escapes some people.
Mace can beat Sidious, as demonstrated. Does that mean that Mace can beat Yoda, too? No. Because it was a certain ability only working against Dark Side force users that allowed him to defeat the Sith Lord.
Anakin defeated Dooku, Dooku quite clearly owned Obi-Wan. Does that mean that Anakin can defeat Obi-Wan. No. Because it took three plot devices to get Anakin into a position where he could do the job.
The SW Universe is littered with examples where battles are happening in a way that they clearly should not happen in. DE Luke, even being an exceptional swordman, shouldn't be able to defeat a younger DE Sidious in a lightsaber fight. Mace Windu shouldn't be able to defeat Sidious, neither should Yoda then lose against the very same Sith Lord. Anakin shouldn't be able to defeat Dooku and technically, Kenobi shouldn't be able to defeat Anakin. And so on and so forth. There are explanations for this fights happening as they did. But using A>B>C arguments are supposed short-cuts that will in 99 out of 100 cases lead to a wrong conclusion.
Originally posted by Gideon
Much improved. One of Stark's best quotes, too.
His general rules regarding trial (first episode) are the best [and would fit here for apparent reasons]. But they are simply too long to put them into a signature. People won't read them - and if they did, they probably won't understand it.
Edit: I was, of course, referring to the "Cutthroat Manifesto"
I. Trial is War. Second place is death.
II. Truth is relative. Pick one that works.
III. In a jury trial, there are only twelve opinions that matter and yours is not one of them.
Originally posted by Eminence
Is this Boston Legal or am I missing something significant?
Shark, another legal drama. Not as good as Boston Legal all around, but Sebastian Stark is one of television's finest characters. A real and utter hardass. Imagine of Greg House were a lawyer and much more interesting.
Edit: For example, during the first season, he prosecutes a brilliant murderer by the name of Wayne Callison. Callison represents himself in court and, after a vicious trial, manages to get himself acquitted. During the season finale a couple of episodes later, Stark and Callison face off again over another murder. This time, Stark wins.
And then
Spoiler:
you find out that the whole thing was a set up; the girl committed suicide, Stark arranged her death to appear like a murder, bought off witnesses, secured the allegiance of Wayne's "girlfriend" (really an undercover cop he used), and framed him.
House doesn't even compare.
Originally posted by Final Blaxican
Yeah, this guy sounds like an even worse character."Hardass" people have never appealed to me as characters. Firefly sucks for the same reason. Pseudo-tough guys are losers.
That makes no sense.
Bland hardasses like House? Yeah, I'll agree. No development whatsoever. Stark has an extremely human side to him, as well, including the disintegrating relationship he has with his teenage daughter. Unlike House, who likes to be miserable for no reason.