Originally posted by h1a8
This is a spite thread.
There is no way CA gets 1 win on someone who has every advantage.
And CA doesn't have a fighting skill advantage as Spidey's powers give
him a fighting skill and style much greater than CA's.
Eventhough in the comicbook Spiderman said he couldnt handle him in H2H? Despite the fact a robot clone of Spiderman said that he couldnt take Cap in H2H either?
Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Eventhough in the comicbook Spiderman said he couldnt handle him in H2H? Despite the fact a robot clone of Spiderman said that he couldnt take Cap in H2H either?
Yeah, actually.
Actually the only way Cap would win this is if this was taking place in a comic book... I know that sounds silly.
But seirously Spiderman >>>>> Captain American by a pretty good margin in just about everything that matters. Speed, strength, durability, and intelligence. As well as his pre-cog.
Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
Yeah, actually.Actually the only way Cap would win this is if this was taking place in a comic book... I know that sounds silly.
But seirously Spiderman >>>>> Captain American by a pretty good margin in just about everything that matters. Speed, strength, durability, and intelligence. As well as his pre-cog.
Yes it does sound silly because you use the comicbook to decide who can win or who loses.
Again you clearly dont know what the hell you are talking about for starters Spiderman is only slightly faster than Cap, you would know that if you read any comicbooks. You cant just decide Spiderman >>>>> Cap when the comicbooks say different.
Originally posted by h1a8
Who cares? My point is that Spiderman shouldn't get hit by cap. Good way to try to deflect the argument.
Oh that was your point?
Funny cause it looks like you're trying to give Spiderman an advantage of reflex based on his ability to "see things in slow motion" which Cap can do so it really doesn't stand as much of an advantage...
If your point was to imply that Spiderman shouldn't get hit by Cap then show some proof to show why.
Until then you're just arguing YOUR VERSION of the character and not the one that exists.
Originally posted by h1a8
It has been said that the spider-sense guides him out of the way (knows the correct path to safety). If it was so vague (his spidersense) then I guess spiderman would have trouble dodging bullets. 🙄
"spider sense tingl ughhhhhffff!"
Yeah it's been portrayed as a vague warning sense hundreds of times...
Ooooooohhhh he can dodge bullets.. Which every street level who's supposedly slower than him and can't "see bullets in slow motion" can do anyway.. maybe they have Spider sense too. 🙄
Originally posted by h1a8
Tactical Superiority isn't present in h2h. The only thing that matters is skill and power set. CA can't go pick up a weapon or use something in the vicinity against Spidey as that would negate the stipulation of h2h.
shows what you know about h2h fighting which is almost entirely set in deception and misdirection which Cap has shown capable of applying in h2h... so... wrong.
No one said anything about a weapon.. 😕
Originally posted by h1a8😆
And CA is a pure statue to spidey. Spidey's speed is much greater.
Like I said, prove it.
Stop telling me your fantasies about what you think Spiderman SHOULD be like and show me an instance of someone like Cap being a statue to Parker... oh that's right! You can't... because SPIDERMAN'S NEVER BEEN PORTRAYED THAT WAY. 😐
Originally posted by h1a8
You and I both know it's common sense.
Common sense like ignoring comparable street level speed feats as if they're fabrications and supporting a notion that Streeters are as to statues to Spiderman in spite of 5 decades of contradictory examples?
Yeah.. that sounds like common sense to me 🙄
Originally posted by h1a8
Having the powers means also having the skills and knowledge of that character added to your own.I don't care if the comic shows CA beating the crap out of Spidey 10000000/10000000 times. It can't happen in a forum fight. This is because we use common sense here.
And which part of common sense allows you to believe that Captain America can not take Spidey in a hand to hand fight? Logic? Real world physics? Which part of common sense allows you to use suspension of disbelief on one character like Spiderman but automatically drop that suspension for Cap?
There's no common sense that applies to Cap NOT taking Spiderman in h2h, just your bias opinion and delusions about what you THINK Spiderman SHOULD be capable of...
Originally posted by h1a8Did you miss the part where I also have Cap's knowledge? Cause that plays into me kicking the crap out o'you like Cap does to Spidey every time they get into it up close and personal.
And you are lying. You would not want to fight me to the death if (h2h only) if you had CA's powers against me with Spidey's powers. I don't believe you are that dumb.
Originally posted by h1a8YEs I'm sure Captain America's sales absolutely SPIKED after he fought Spiderman, I mean it's not like people were already reading his titles due to Civil War.. I mean it's not like he has had people reading his books since WWII... 😐
If you want to boost CA sales and know Spider-man sales are going to be the same no matter what then you let CA always beat him. This is business (smart business too)
Originally posted by h1a8
This is a spite thread.
There is no way CA gets 1 win on someone who has every advantage.
Yeah every advantage except the one's that matter...
Originally posted by h1a8
And CA doesn't have a fighting skill advantage as Spidey's powers give
him a fighting skill and style much greater than CA's.
Originally posted by h1a8Power's aren't everything, it's how you use them. Otherwise Spiderman would lose to 90% of the physically superior villains he fights. 😐
And it is utter stupidity to go by the outcome of fights over power sets and common sense. In that case why argue the many fights that have been already shown in comics?
We argue for a lot of reasons, but reason doesn't seem to be your strongpoint so I digress.
Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
Yeah, actually.Actually the only way Cap would win this is if this was taking place in a comic book... I know that sounds silly.
But seirously Spiderman >>>>> Captain American by a pretty good margin in just about everything that matters. Speed,
Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
strength,
Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
durability,
Shit.. Spiderman's broken an arm and rips falling from 3 stories. Cap's been tossed of buildings and got up without missing a beat.
Originally posted by Blax_Hydralisk
and intelligence.
What is this? The science fair?
Spiderman: "Wait! What's the square root of 135.76?"
Cap: 'uhhhhh"
Spiderman: "Ha! It appears I win this round!" *Spiderman slinks into the night*
yeah... the only intelligence that matters here is the kind that has to do with fighting, tactics, and strategy. Which Cap has over Spiderman in SPADES....
Originally posted by Blax_HydraliskBorderline precog which doesn't work against an opponent who can use it against him, fake him out, and follow through with attacks as proven in every Spidey vs. Street level fight...
As well as his pre-cog.
How about some real advantages like the fact that Cap's fighting skill is so far above Spiderman's that Spiderman admits he couldn't learn half of what Cap knows in 100 years...
Originally posted by jinzin
😆Yeah every advantage except the one's that matter...
Really? is that so?
So tell me.. Why does Captain America have better showings and better records against Spiderman's rogues than Spiderman does?
Is that too because Spiderman's got a better fighting style? 🙄
What a load of shit, and it isn't supported by one panel, one handbook, or one fight of comic book evidence.Power's aren't everything, it's how you use them. Otherwise Spiderman would lose to 90% of the physically superior villains he fights. 😐
We argue for a lot of reasons, but reason doesn't seem to be your strongpoint so I digress.
Originally posted by jinzin
he's not faster... You still need to prove that he is.... 😐Which is the only advantage he brings to the table and semi negated by both Cap's metahuman levels of durability and his armor that can take bites from Fenris.
Is practically the same..
Shit.. Spiderman's broken an arm and rips falling from 3 stories. Cap's been tossed of buildings and got up without missing a beat.
😂
What is this? The science fair?
Spiderman: "Wait! What's the square root of 135.76?"
Cap: 'uhhhhh"
Spiderman: "Ha! It appears I win this round!" *Spiderman slinks into the night*
yeah... the only intelligence that matters here is the kind that has to do with fighting, tactics, and strategy. Which Cap has over Spiderman in SPADES....
Borderline precog which doesn't work against an opponent who can use it against him, fake him out, and follow through with attacks as proven in every Spidey vs. Street level fight...
How about some real advantages like the fact that Cap's fighting skill is so far above Spiderman's that Spiderman admits he couldn't learn half of what Cap knows in 100 years...
biscuits
This is absolutely crazy how people think that Cap is winning the majority. There is no pis in this battle at all. And for all of you who thinks Cap will take the majority, I got a question for you all. If Cap was a villain in a Spider-Man comic, Spider-Man would have no chance at stopping him, right? Wrong. Some people say their fights in the comics should be taken into consideration. And I say that Spidey's fights with far more powerful and dangerous villains in his comics, should be taken into consideration. Because it doesn't makes any sense at all for Cap to even beat Spidey. It's pis and inconsistent with the caliber of villains Spidey has already defeated. It's like some people forgot what villains like, Sand Man, Venom, and Electro are capable of. and some how Cap is more imposing than all of them. Comic book writers don't always use common sense in the plot, and if they did. Pis would have never existed.
Originally posted by Marvelknight
It's like some people forgot what villains like, Sand Man, Venom, and Electro are capable of. and some how Cap is more imposing than all of them. Comic book writers don't always use common sense in the plot, and if they did. Pis would have never existed.
.............are you even listening to your self?
It more pis for spiderman to even give venom a match or sand man then it is for capt to beat spiderman
Venom and sand man loses to spiderman through plot devices and cis not becuases spiderman is actually a real threat to them. In a forum match he would loses 10/10 to either of them.