Spider-Man vs. Captain America h2h only

Originally posted by Marvelknight
You're so wrong. Look up the WW vs Superman thread. I think they are far from equal. And I never said that strength means nothing. What I meant in my last post, is that like CA and SM. WW is the better fighter while Superman is physically superior to her, like Spider-Man is to CA. And yet you feel that SM shouldn't take the majority over CA.

Your tying to prove a point by using a varied version of ABC logic. Most people know that ABC logic rarely has its uses in a debate, there are at times it can be used but the manner in which your trying to use it is wrong.

Its wrong because not only is superman superior to wonderwoman in every way, he is also no slouch in H2H combat. Not to mention Superman is UNBELIEVABLY durable to the point where wonderwomen would have a EXTREMELY hard time putting him down.

Pete doesn't have such a durability advantage over cap. Cap's blows will hurt, caps blows will numb and will put pete down.

As everybody has said, the only huge advantage spidey brings to this fight is strength. And just ask Rhino when he goes up against spidey, strength isn't everything.

A little of your ABC logic.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
The problem is that you think it is just strength that Spidey has over CA. Spidey is also faster, more durable, and more agile.

No one is saying spidey isn't faster then cap. Hell most cap supporters admit spidey is faster. But its not fast enough to be a huge advangtage like his strength.

Spidey is slightly faster then high tier street levelers until someone proves otherwise.

Originally posted by Apolloknight
Your tying to prove a point by using a varied version of ABC logic. Most people know that ABC logic rarely has its uses in a debate, there are at times it can be used but the manner in which your trying to use it is wrong.

Its wrong because not only is superman superior to wonderwoman in every way, he is also no slouch in H2H combat. Not to mention Superman is UNBELIEVABLY durable to the point where wonderwomen would have a EXTREMELY hard time putting him down.

Pete doesn't have such a durability advantage over cap. Cap's blows will hurt, caps blows will numb and will put pete down.

As everybody has said, the only huge advantage spidey brings to this fight is strength. And just ask Rhino when he goes up against spidey, strength isn't everything.

A little of your ABC logic.

blowup Spider-Man isn't no slouch in H2H combat neither.

Originally posted by Badabing
Yeah, well your anaolgies are shatacular! durfist

Anyway, Spidey wins. Whoever says different is banned. uhuh

J/K 😛 Revenge for that PM. biscuits duryes

You of course know that I'm going to ninja you in your sleep.... 😐

And your dog.

And your dogs family.

😐

Originally posted by Marvelknight
blowup Spider-Man isn't no slouch in H2H combat neither.

Fighting guys like Shang Chi, Cap, and Wolves... until proven otherwise.... 😬

Originally posted by Marvelknight
blowup Spider-Man isn't no slouch in H2H combat neither.

I'm not saying he isn't, but according to him, he is nothing compared to cap.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
Well that doesn't sound too different from this fight 😬

Spiderman > Cap in strength, agility, durability
Spiderman > Cap in versatility sort of with his spider-sense
Cap > Spiderman in fighting skills

Superman > Wonder Woman in strength, speed, durability
Superman > Wonder Woman in versatility with his hv, freeze breath, etc.
Wonder Woman > Superman in fighting skills

If Superman wins, why doesn't Spiderman?

Here's the problem. Cap makes Spiderman look like an idiot with his fighting skills. Cap also knows Spiderman's fighting style inside and out to the point where he can telegraph an exchange of blows that substantially negates his physical advantages and even nullifies his spider-sense's advantages.

Wonder Woman does not make Superman look like an idiot with her fighting skills. Wonder Woman does not know Superman's fighting style inside and out to the point where she can telegraph an exchange of blows and she doesn't negate his physical advantages, nor nullify his versatile abilities.

In the end, I give Cap/Spidey H2H 5/10 split. And I give Superman 6/10 over Wonder Woman. I hope that my consideration of Cap's superior fighting skills and complete knowledge over Spiderman's tactics accounts for this 1/10 difference between the two situations and is reasonable in your eyes.

Originally posted by jinzin

Wolverine is not only physicaly superior to Cap but equivolent in skill as well.. Cap holds no advantages over Wolverine. He does however over Spiderman. 😐

Physically superior? If you mean his skeleton/healing factor, sure.

But if you're talking strength or speed? Nah. Cap has feats that match or exceed anything Logan has in those categories. Much more likely, they're approximately equal.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
blowup Spider-Man ISN'T NO slouch in H2H combat NEITHER .

lol the rare triple negative....

Originally posted by Soljer
Physically superior? If you mean his skeleton/healing factor, sure.

But if you're talking strength or speed? Nah. Cap has feats that match or exceed anything Logan has in those categories. Much more likely, they're approximately equal.

C'mon you KNOW that I'm talking Skeleton/Healing Factor Solj... 😬

Originally posted by Soljer
Physically superior? If you mean his skeleton/healing factor, sure.

But if you're talking strength or speed? Nah. Cap has feats that match or exceed anything Logan has in those categories. Much more likely, they're approximately equal.

Pretty much. There strength and speed is so close, its almost a moot point to analyze who's the faster or stronger between the two.

Originally posted by OneDumbG0
I can understand where your incredulity comes from. Fact is, I'm surprised there aren't more Spidey fans making the same arguments here. But this is how I interpret your Spiderman/Cap and Superman/Wonder Woman comparisons. I don't pretend to speak for everyone else, only myself:

Spiderman > Cap in strength, agility, durability
Spiderman > Cap in versatility sort of with his spider-sense
Cap > Spiderman in fighting skills

Superman > Wonder Woman in strength, speed, durability
Superman > Wonder Woman in versatility with his hv, freeze breath, etc.
Wonder Woman > Superman in fighting skills

If Superman wins, why doesn't Spiderman?

Here's the problem. Cap makes Spiderman look like an idiot with his fighting skills. Cap also knows Spiderman's fighting style inside and out to the point where he can telegraph an exchange of blows that substantially negates his physical advantages and even nullifies his spider-sense's advantages.

Wonder Woman does not make Superman look like an idiot with her fighting skills. Wonder Woman does not know Superman's fighting style inside and out to the point where she can telegraph an exchange of blows and she doesn't negate his physical advantages, nor nullify his versatile abilities.

In the end, I give Cap/Spidey H2H 5/10 split. And I give Superman 6/10 over Wonder Woman. I hope that my consideration of Cap's superior fighting skills and complete knowledge over Spiderman's tactics accounts for this 1/10 difference between the two situations and is reasonable in your eyes.

It's reasonible. But I know that Spider-Man will beat CA. Because they're not holding back in this fight.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
It's reasonible. But I know that Spider-Man will beat CA. Because they're not holding back in this fight.

So then Cap will be using pressure points for the kill landing them before Spiderman lands one punch like their last fight and Spidey dies. great. 😐

Originally posted by jinzin
So then Cap will be using pressure points for the kill landing them before Spiderman lands one punch like their last fight and Spidey dies. great. 😐

Yeah, Ok. Spider-Man isn't stupid. Scorpion can't even sting Spidey with his tail. Scorpion's tail is faster and it covers more distance than Cap's fist.

Originally posted by jinzin
So then Cap will be using pressure points for the kill landing them before Spiderman lands one punch like their last fight and Spidey dies. great. 😐

Just wondering, does Cap know how to kill with pressure points, I never actually seen anyone do it.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
Yeah, Ok. Spider-Man isn't stupid. Scorpion can't even sting Spidey with his tail. Scorpion's tail is faster and it covers more distance than Cap's fist.

Scorpion=fighting idiot.

Going around my point, perfect. Doesn't change the fact that it's faster.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
Yeah, Ok. Spider-Man isn't stupid. Scorpion can't even sting Spidey with his tail. Scorpion's tail is faster and it covers more distance than Cap's fist.

It's like you're ignoring the whole point about intelligence and fighting ability, both of which Scorpion lacks.. notice how he failed to sting Cap in two fights, one with backup?
of course not, your Spidey blinders are on.. Oh well. 😬

Originally posted by Mindset
Just wondering, does Cap know how to kill with pressure points, I never actually seen anyone do it.

Originally posted by jinzin

I don't know, I thought I'd just throw out some more meaningless hyperbole since that's what Spidey supporters think makes a good argument. 😐

Originally posted by Marvelknight
Going around my point, perfect. Doesn't change the fact that it's faster.

Missing my point, perfect. Being an idiot has EVERYTHING to do with the way you fight.

Its sad that you don't know that. :/

Also, how fast is scorpions tail?