Spider-Man vs. Captain America h2h only

Started by Battlehammer90 pages

im still trying to understand how the spidy vs wolverine fight that marvel knight posted helps him at all..........if anything it hurts him........

Originally posted by Ha-Son
Reported for spamming.

You do realize that it was still topic consistent, not to mention one of those posters is a moderator, right?

he was joking....................................

Originally posted by Toku King
You do realize that it was still topic consistent, not to mention one of those posters is a moderator, right?
ka-dur

Originally posted by Toku King
You do realize that it was still topic consistent, not to mention one of those posters is a moderator, right?

Originally posted by Battlehammer
he was joking....................................

Yup.
Originally posted by Badabing
ka-dur

That's also spamming. crackers

Well after hearing this debate from both sides I've come to the conclusion that Spidey is taking this 7/10, good thread guys.

.....................you never heard anything..........you just kept babbling about spiderman and ignoreing all the evidences presented against you.........

Originally posted by Soljer
Because the Flash has other feats that blow Quicksilver's best out of the water.

Spidey doesn't have a [b]single speed feat that Cap can't match - at least not that I've seen from any of the comics I've read, or the half dozen respect threads Spidey's had made in his honor.

Agility feats, strength feats? Sure. Spidey's got Cap outclassed in those. Pure speed? Nah. [/B]

Is that so? Well why hasn't CA ever been able to move his body more than a foot out of the way of after fired bullet. Spidey has moved more than 4 feet even after the bullet was fired. If this doesn't blow CA's best feats away then I guess there exist bias here. With this, you have to agree that Spidey is at least twice as fast as CA (I think he's more than 4x myself)? Otherwise show a CA feat matching a feat that has one covering more than 4 feet after a bullet is in midflight.

Originally posted by The Great Galen
Well after hearing this debate from both sides I've come to the conclusion that Spidey is taking this 7/10

doh

Originally posted by h1a8
Is that so? Well why hasn't CA ever been able to move his body more than a foot out of the way of after fired bullet. Spidey has moved more than 4 feet even after the bullet was fired. If this doesn't blow CA's best feats away then I guess there exist bias here. With this, you have to agree that Spidey is at least twice as fast as CA (I think he's more than 4x myself)? Otherwise show a CA feat matching a feat that has one covering more than 4 feet after a bullet is in midflight.

I dont know if hes done that exact feat but the fact that he says that can see bullets in slow motion and has been able to beat Spiderman villains indicates that their reflexes and speed are similar.

Your logic is not sound thats like saying Namor is stronger than The Thing because you have'nt seen Thing lift a batteship despite the fact other evidence shows that their strength is comparable.

Originally posted by jinzin
Except that has Soljer pointed out there's multitudes of feats where Flash does feats considerably faster than QS. Spiderman has no such feats that put him over CA.

If Flash didn't have faster feats no one would deam him faster. 😬

And where the hell are you getting that Spidey can see bullets in 97.5% slow motion.. now you're straight up making up numbers.


Let a bullets speed be V.
If spidey reflexes operate at 40x that of human's then he sees the bullet at V/40. Now this is V-V/40 decrease or (39/40)*V decrease which is 97.5% of the original V. Another way to look at it is since V/40 is .025V or 2.5% of V then Spidey sees the bullet at 2.5% speed or 97.5% slower.

You should know that I never make up numbers. My numbers always come from the comics and handbooks.

Originally posted by Mr. Slippyfist
Prove it.

What does that matter when Cap can hurt Spidey more than Spidey can hurt Cap in the same amount of shots?

Which matters... why? Let's say that's true. Cap has had no problem hitting Spidey before.

You should know better than this. If Spidey doesn't kill CA in three hits then he is obviously pulling his punches (punching to ko and not to kill).

Originally posted by h1a8
You should know better than this. If Spidey doesn't kill CA in three hits then he is obviously pulling his punches (punching to ko and not to kill).

Hello...hes taken shots from people more powerful than Spiderman eg he took 3 shots from Powerman who probably had 20 ton strength.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
doh

I dont know if hes done that exact feat but the fact that he says that can see bullets in slow motion and has been able to beat Spiderman villains indicates that their reflexes and speed are similar.

CA seeing bullets in slow motion proves nothing that he has similar reflexes to Spiderman. For seeing bullets 1% slower is still slow motion by definition. Spiderman can see them in 97.5% slow motion. And beating Spiderman's villains don't prove that Spidey isn't at least 4 times as fast as CA. Bad logic indeed.

Your logic is not sound thats like saying Namor is stronger than The Thing because you have'nt seen Thing lift a batteship despite the fact other evidence shows that their strength is comparable.
Are you baiting me?
Two people stalemating in a physically brawl tells absolutely nothing of the two comparable strengths. The stronger doesn't always win. The outcome depends on not only strength but speed, durability, skill, stamina, and power set (like HF and such).

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Hello...hes taken shots from people more powerful than Spiderman eg he took 3 shots from Powerman who probably had 20 ton strength.

The point is that CA isn't bullet proof. Thus since any class 10 or greater can punch with a lot more force than bullet force (even cannon force) then they should kill CA in one punch. They fact that CA has never died from a class 10 or more strike makes me assume that either the opponents pull their punches or the writers made a mistake.

With that said, Spidey non pulling punches>>>>bullets>>>>CA

powerman? you mean luke cage?

Originally posted by h1a8
The point is that CA isn't bullet proof. Thus since any class 10 or greater can punch with a lot more force than bullet force (even cannon force) then they should kill CA in one punch. They fact that CA has never died from a class 10 or more strike makes me assume that either the opponents pull their punches or the writers made a mistake.

With that said, Spidey [B]non pulling punches>>>>bullets>>>>CA [/B]

............yea and? that means spiderman should be long dead as well given your logic.

I'll let somebody else waste their time.

Originally posted by h1a8
Is that so? Well why hasn't CA ever been able to move his body more than a foot out of the way of after fired bullet.

He has. Check the respect thread. Dozens of scans, I posted myself.

Originally posted by h1a8
Spidey has moved more than 4 feet even after the bullet was fired. If this doesn't blow CA's best feats away then I guess there exist bias here.

Since Spideys (in-canon) feats aren't 'blowing Cap's out of the water' there's a bias? Where? In the comic book writers? They're the ones penning Cap's feats similarly to Spidey's.

Originally posted by h1a8

With this, you have to agree that Spidey is at least twice as fast as CA (I think he's more than 4x myself)?

That's inane. There's nothing to support such an assertion. Any feat you can post for Spidey, I can match for Cap.

Originally posted by Soljer
He has. Check the respect thread. Dozens of scans, I posted myself.
I looked. And you lie, there is no CA feat matching Spidey covering more than 4 feet after a bullet is fired. None! So why say their feats are comparable?


That's inane. There's nothing to support such an assertion. Any feat you can post for Spidey, I can match for Cap.

Then match the feats where Spidey travels more than 4 feet after the bullet is already (not before) in midair.

Originally posted by Battlehammer
............yea and? that means spiderman should be long dead as well given your logic.

Correct (unless spidey is bullet proof or almost).