Originally posted by Marvelknight
An extended fight with Kingpin. Spidey has a broken arm (in a sling) during the fight. Spidey is also holding back.
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http://img367.imageshack.us/my.php?image=19774ll.gifCap has never attacked someone with this kind of speed (not even against the Hulk). And Peter's not holding back.
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Taking down Rhino with one severely injured arm.
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Dodging simultaneous blasts from a guy named Chance, who has a suit equipped with a targeting computer.
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Here’s a nice speed feat against the Green Goblin. He is out of webbing and can’t stick to walls (Goblin sprayed him with something so he couldn’t) but he still manages to elude GG and get the better of him.
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Dodging blasts from Surfer (when he was being controlled by the Carnage symbiote) then pummeling him a few times. It’s important to note that Surfer was trying to fight the symbiote’s influence, so he wasn’t going all out, but the symbiote would take control occasionally and the blasts were aimed to kill.
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A trained martial artist (with, apparently, some other enhancements) gets owned. Interesting because his nails (claws) and sharp points on his costume have a poison that can knock Spidey out, so SM can’t even get touched during this fight or he loses.
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Catching a bullet. You have to be pretty fast to do this feat, faster than dodging a bullet.
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Speed Feat: Getting past Avengers security.
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Spidey finally loses his temper and takes Punisher out in a hurry.
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Whaaaaoooooo!!! you did it again!
First fight has Peter doing nothing but running away from Kingpin, unable to consistently dodge him or put him down with multiple blows to the point even Peter's astonished he's having such a hard time with KP. Holding back? Part of his CIS. Injured? Boo-hoo Cap's been tortured and stripped of his shield and then went on to beat the Wrecker and THEN went on to no-sell Baron Zemo... Maybe we should throw Spiderman a parade for being such a hero and lasting in a fight with KP while injured. Not like any hero's ever had to excell in the face of such odds before.
Second fight. No-sell hero moment. Let's ignore the fact that Daredevil's done the same thing and he's still not taking Cap in h2h for the majority. Let's ignore the fact that a no-sell hero moment like this one goes against 99% of his other showings with KP, so it's clearly what should take precedence here rather than his consistent showings (like when he beats up a cancer ridden Venom) and is totally suitable to portray as his standard for forum fights. Let's ignore the part where Peter isn't effected by CIS here like he is 99% of the time, or the fact that if he isn't holding back, he's still failing to bring down Kingpin with multitudes of punches, or the fact that he has power-ups as of this story line that he no longer has since "One More Day", or the fact that it's been alluded to that Kingpin may very well be a Skrull. Hell, let's ignore the fact that Cap has his own no-sell moments... against Spidey... and injured against more physically threatening characters than Spidey too... And pretend that Kingpin is totally and utterly representative of Cap, Shang, and Wolverine more than Cap, Shang, and Wolverine are to boot. 😐
Third fight... taking down the Rhino... 😐
One of the clowns I already stated Spiderman beats on the regular..... Wait.. WTF.. okay at least with KP you were close. How you think Rhino even comes close to comparable with Shang, Cap, And Wolverine? 🤨
A bunch of nonsensical speed feats that you stole from a respect thread which neither prove Spiderman's a good fighter against the likes of Shang, Cap, or Wolverine.... Nor to they even prove that he's faster than Cap... 😬
Dodging lasers, reacting to bullets? Yeah like we haven't seen everyone and Aunt May do that...
Beating up Punisher? Yup... totally the same as beating up Shang, Cap or Wolverine.. Because his level of physicality and skill is clearly at their level.... 😐
And uh... "some martial artist".... yeah... see this is why I advise reading comics before you go around ranting about em trying to make points... Cause if you did and you knew anything about White Dragon, you would be aware of two things.. the first being that he's not even CLOSE to Cap, Shang, Logan level in skill, nor physicality (He's been beaten up by Prowler and Moon Knight easily at that), and the second and more important... that in spite of the first fact about White Dragon, WD's still beaten Spiderman in a fight too. 😂
And finally once more I'd like to draw attention to the logic that Rhino, White Dragon, Kingpin, Cancer-Venom, and Punisher are better representations of Cap, Shang and Wolverine than they are themselves.. 🙄
Yeah, once again, you sure showed me huh?