Spider-Man vs. Captain America h2h only

Started by Mindset90 pages
Originally posted by darthgoober
I was answering this...

IF and TM are either at or close to Cap in physical strength.

DD isn't that far behind, and honestly Spiderman being able to take hits from Morlun, doesn't really make much sense that he gets hurt by human level fighters. But I guess it's happened so.

Sometimes I think writers forget he has enhanced durability, multiple times they have regular people breaking their bones punching Spiderman, yet they had Jameson able to bloody and bruise his face.

Originally posted by Mindset
An advantage does not show who will win, it shows he can win, not that he would win.

Actually yea, I've seen him being able to knock back Hulk as proof of his strength.

And no, that example is not by my logic, we know that Spiderman is physically superior to Cap, so the same statement can not be applied.

He is physically superior but Cap is superior in combat and can be applied.

As shown skill can go just as far as strength.

Yes advantage is not a win, but it does give Cap fans the right to claim he wins due to it.

Spiderman fans not so much since Spiderman does not hold the edge. They can yammer about stats as much as they want. Those stats have not shown to be "enough" in there encounters. To compensate against Cap's prowess.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
He is physically superior but Cap is superior in combat and can be applied.

As shown skill can go just as far as strength.

Yes advantage is not a win, but it does give Cap fans the right to claim he wins due to it.

Spiderman fans not so much since Spiderman does not hold the edge. They can yammer about stats as much as they want. Those stats have not shown to be "enough" in there encounters. To compensate against Cap's prowess.


So you're basing your argument on a slight advantage?

Originally posted by Marvelknight
So you're basing your argument on a slight advantage?

Where do you get this "slight" from?

"The man knows more aboud H2H combat then I could learn in 100 years"

I'd say Cap has far more then a "slight" advantage in H2H combat.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
So you're basing your argument on a slight advantage?
Cap knowing Spidey's powers and fighting style so intimately that he can telegraph his movements ahead of time isn't something I'd call a "slight advantage." It's pretty much the same advantage Iron Man had over Cap when he was beating him senseless in 'Civil War.'

IM would do that even without knowing Cap's fighting style. Spider-Man's physical advantage is more of a factor. Cap will give SM a good fight. And take some wins against SM. He will not win the majority.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
So you're basing your argument on a slight advantage?

Yes. That slight in point shows Cap being able to do what he wants with Spiderman as Spiderman could not.

Your argument isn't based off of anything other then your opinion.

Oh and repeating "physical superior."

I'll gladly takes Cap's advantage in the books over your words.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Yes. That slight in point shows Cap being able to do what he wants with Spiderman as Spiderman could not.

Your argument isn't based off of anything other then your opinion.

Oh and repeating "physical superior."

I'll gladly takes Cap's advantage in the books over your words.


I'm basing my opinion on what Spidey has been shown to be capable of in other battles with more imposing foes. Cap does a lot of things that are beyond PIS. You say that it is skill for him to take down foes near class 100. And then bring up SM's battle with FL as PIS. When SM has superhuman stats, not peak human.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
I'm basing my opinion on what Spidey has been shown to be capable of in other battles with more imposing foes. Cap does a lot of things that are beyond PIS. You say that it is skill for him to take down foes near class 100. And then bring up SM's battle with FL as PIS. When SM has superhuman stats, not peak human.

Spiderman does a lot of things that are beyond Pis.

I never said skill is enough for him to take down foes near 100 class LOL.

Circumstances/PIS for both Spiderman/Cap against 100 class.

The fight itself for Spiderman/Cap is the truth. You just deny it.

Also you say peakhuma is a weak thing.

Its the next step of human evolution....better then Batman. 🙂

And its shown that Cap with that above is enough to have the advantage against Spiderman while they are in character.

Marvelknigh Aka give Batman 4 wins against Spiderman in a thread were there both blood lust and not holding back.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Spiderman does a lot of things that are beyond Pis.

I never said skill is enough for him to take down foes near 100 class LOL.

Circumstances/PIS for both Spiderman/Cap against 100 class.

The fight itself for Spiderman/Cap is the truth. You just deny it.


What is there to deny, when their fights never finished?

Originally posted by Marvelknight
What is there to deny, when their fights never finished?

Never finished but clearly an indicator is there. In there confrontations.

I dunno I'll think I'll just post some scans that prove nothing and pat myself on the back for a job well done. I could also analyse scans and take small sections of a fight out of context and ignore everything else and assume that other posters are talking nonsense.

I am the greatest debator on this forum.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Spiderman does a lot of things that are beyond Pis.

I never said skill is enough for him to take down foes near 100 class LOL.

Circumstances/PIS for both Spiderman/Cap against 100 class.

The fight itself for Spiderman/Cap is the truth. You just deny it.

What has Spider-Man done that's is far beyond PIS, other than him beating FL? Cap's list of PIS, is a lot longer than Spidey'.

Originally posted by Marvelknight
What has Spider-Man done that's is far beyond PIS, other than him beating FL? Cap's list of PIS, is a lot longer than Spidey'.

Read Spiderman fight with Silver Surfer and the various others. Your ignorance in his field is your own. As too who really has the most PIS against class 100 statistically is irrelevant towards this fight anyhow.

Originally posted by Daredevil1
Read Spiderman fight with Silver Surfer and the various others. Your ignorance in his field is your own. As too who really has the most PIS against class 100 statistically is irrelevant towards this fight anyhow.

You did explain though how it is that Spiderman could have handled FL. There was obvious CIS because he did not want to nuke the area and he was also very tired.

Spiderman beats CA in seconds.
This is no contest.

Originally posted by h1a8
Spiderman beats CA in seconds.
This is no contest.

Beware my friend-Phantom is going to go ballistic on you now

Originally posted by BUSTER1
Beware my friend-Phantom is going to go ballistic on you now

Yeah I was actually.

Originally posted by h1a8
Spiderman beats CA in seconds.
This is no contest.

Im bored. No he does not he has similar reflexes can take class 10 shots and is more skilled by a massive margin.

Heres a question to everybody. Spiderman has been retconned so hes at the beginning of his career. Does that mean his SS just warns him of danger but does not tell him where its coming from, because thats what it should mean.

Originally posted by Phantom Zone
Yeah I was actually.

Im bored. No he does not he has similar reflexes can take class 10 shots and is more skilled by a massive margin.

Heres a question to everybody. Spiderman has been retconned so hes at the beginning of his career. Does that mean his SS just warns him of danger but does not tell him where its coming from, because thats what it should mean.

written correctly his Spidersense should tell him where the dangers coming from regardless of what stage he's at in his crimefighting career