Hank Henshaw vs Darkseid

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Originally posted by Superherovandal
Well lets see... They were pretty pissed off that AM was there as when they encountered him once before he tooled them. and they were trying to kill Hank..That sounds pretty bloodlust to me. Hank has insane durability. This was the same attack that caused SBP to scream out in pain in the same issue. Yet Hank didn't show anything to say that he was even affected. If anything he was upset the Guardian couldn't to do more to him.
The combined efforts of the Guardians didnt do jack to a depowered Am. That and the fact that Prime was crushing both sides and the Guardians looked baffled at how to stop him. One was even foolish enough to take their own lives while it only powered him up further. In no way shape or form were they bloodlusted. They were idiotic and not effective in the slightest. 🙂

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Avlon
He claims I don't listen to him and I claim the same of him. If he wants to run with illogical rants of DS winning 10/10 is fine with me if he wants to take that route.

Going by the official rules, It states that [B]feats are not allowed. I simply brought up the method of death and it turned into a convoluted back and forth where a simple answer to the question was all that was needed.

It's not like I brought up an elseworlds version of Darkseid. It's the same on from the main continuity (same history..etc) that branched off by 1 decision.

All I asked for was reasonable doubt as to why that method wouldn't work. That is what I continue to ask for.

If anything, characters get stronger with time and resistant to past attacks instead of the other way around. [/B]

It isnt illogical but you falling back on noncanon ways of defeat shows the lengths some posters will go to. If feats are not allowed then why would anything be allowed. So I guess nothing positive can be taken from alternate realities but negative things can?

1 decision can affect someones future and change them indefinitely. Look at Adam warlock and his change into the Magus.

If you are going to use the method of death he can use feats.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Avlon
One decision created that direct future. It had nothing to do with DS.
If you are debating that Darkseid's whole physiological makeup is different because of it...then prove it.

We aren't debating an elseworlds Darkseid, hell, or even Tangent Darkseid.
Simply prove that method of death is not possible on him.

Again you cant have it your way only. If you want to use a noncanon death for darkseid then you can also use noncanon Darkseid feats. You are claiming his physiological body remains then same then we also can say that he is capable of the same feats as he hasnt changed.

I guess gds feats stand then. 😛

Superherovandal CEO of BS Comics Inc.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The combined efforts of the Guardians didnt do jack to a depowered Am. That and the fact that Prime was crushing both sides and the Guardians looked baffled at how to stop him. One was even foolish enough to take their own lives while it only powered him up further. In no way shape or form were they bloodlusted. They were idiotic and not effective in the slightest. 🙂
and you are saying that not defeating AM even if he was at multiversal power is a bad thing??? That's so stupid. AM was still powerful though. and they were destroying his armor. His form after he if defeated in the SC war is still powerful enough to be used as the powersource for the Black Lantern corp. that says something about his power. You obviously didn't read too well into the SC storyline if at all.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Superherovandal
and you are saying that not defeating AM even if he was at multiversal power is a bad thing??? That's so stupid. AM was still powerful though. and they were destroying his armor. His form after he if defeated in the SC war is still powerful enough to be used as the powersource for the Black Lantern corp. that says something about his power. You obviously didn't read too well into the SC storyline if at all.
Am was depowered and was defeated by green lanterns as opposed to the little blue men.

Prime bfr'd his ass too. Prime seems more powerful than a Guardian by a lot considering one killed himself to stop him. How well did that turn out for him. 😂

I did read it while the Guardians seemed foolish and confused. yet yu claim they were bloodlusted. Tell me what they did that makes you feel this way. Back your case up. Please. It seems you didnt read this story too well yourself.

Avlon Godot Brew#107

Originally posted by -K-M-
What do you think happened with Days of Future Past or AoA? It's the exact same situation and no one makes the claim to use those feats for their main universe counterparts. Do you know what happened to DS during those years? No, so you have to prove that in the future he is still at a normal power-level or if that's the case Legion feats can be applied here.

The burden of proof is on you...again 😬

AOA has nothing to do with burden of proof on Darkseids physiology.

You're claiming that Darky's physiology is different in the near future changed by 1 decision. Show us. I can understand if he was said to be physically weaker, but nothing was stated, and the method of death is interesting (especially considering his heart was just ripped out of him...which seems just as bad...) and his physical beatdowns.

While we wait for that, here is a alternate Darkside you can work with. 🙂

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by Avlon
AOA has nothing to do with burden of proof on Darkseids physiology.

You're claiming that Darky's physiology is different in the near future changed by 1 decision. Show us. I can understand if he was said to be physically weaker, but nothing was stated, and the method of death is interesting (especially considering his heart was just ripped out of him...which seems just as bad...) and his physical beatdowns.

While we wait for that, here is a alternate Darkside you can work with. 🙂

Again you are ignoring the context about how his heart was ripped out and the fact that Orion was the third being he fought in a row. You are also ignoring the new gods prophecy that he was slated to die by his sons hands.

Again physically I have said from the beginning that Henshaw is superior with the rings but he cant avoid the omega beams and since Darkseid is at full strength he wins this easily ten out of ten times. 🙂

jadervason rapist of machines

there is no proof darkseid's full power beams are an effective weapon against a ready, beyond-kryptonian level being.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by jadervason
there is no proof darkseid's full power beams are an effective weapon against a ready, beyond-kryptonian level being.
They defeated Henshaw,in one shot when fully powered. Henshaw has proven that while Ds is near death he can survive it but when Ds is at full strength he is oneshottable. 💃

jadervason rapist of machines

So, by your logic, any jackass with a gun can kill bruce wayne.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by jadervason
So, by your logic, any jackass with a gun can kill bruce wayne.
No. But a bullet can kill him. Look its simple the met and Darkseid showed us hes way above him due to his omega powers.

jadervason rapist of machines

You gotta be kidding. Henshaw was such a big threat, Superman and Darkseid teamed up willingly against him.

Superman. And Darkseid. Teamed up. Against him.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by jadervason
You gotta be kidding. Henshaw was such a big threat, Superman and Darkseid teamed up willingly against him.

Superman. And Darkseid. Teamed up. Against him.

Superman bought Darkseid time to recover. When he did Henshaw was toast.

jadervason rapist of machines

Did Henshaw even acknowledge darkseid?

He was not fighting that man. He was fighting Superman. Henshaw has the worst history of being cheap shotted of any character I have ever seen. Even gods have to cheap shot him.

quanchi112 Disney

Originally posted by jadervason
Did Henshaw even acknowledge darkseid?

He was not fighting that man. He was fighting Superman. Henshaw has the worst history of being cheap shotted of any character I have ever seen. Even gods have to cheap shot him.

Hesnahw ou mean the guy who piggybacked Doomsday and had him tear everyone up there for him basically. Without Doomsday Henshaw would be easily dealt with. Fact. When Darkseid recovered he ended Henshaw with one shot. Fact. 😛

jadervason rapist of machines

If Doomsday had been fighting both Superman and Darkseid simultaneously, the same thing would have happened.

jadervason rapist of machines

Darkseid's only hope discussed thus far is the omega beams.

He cannot kill Henshaw or Doomsday with them from far away. He cannot use them when getting his face ruined, as demonstrated by Doomsday. This is how the fight would go... And unless you have something new to say, this will be my last post.

Henshaw and Darkseid encounter each other on the vegas strip. Darkseid talks some garbage about how he beat the man, Henshaw talks some garbage about how it's now one on one. Darkseid would either be a prideful fool and fistfight him, and lose, or use the omega beams at the "fast" setting, which wouldn't kill Henshaw. If he tried to use the slow ones, that CAN kill Henshaw, he would soon find his jaw clacked with a series of punches that KTFO'd Superman.

Now, it would be back and forth for a little while, but Henshaw would not give Darkseid the time to unleash the full power of the Omega Beams at close range, like he would need to.

This is the dog; it is not hunting. Say something else.

fangirl101 Restricted

Originally posted by jadervason Darkseid's only hope discussed thus far is the omega beams.He cannot kill Henshaw or Doomsday with them from far away. He cannot use them when getting his face ruined, as demonstrated by Doomsday. This is how the fight would go... And unless you have something new to say, this will be my last post.Henshaw and Darkseid encounter each other on the vegas strip. Darkseid talks some garbage about how he beat the man, Henshaw talks some garbage about how it's now one on one. Darkseid would either be a prideful fool and fistfight him, and lose, or use the omega beams at the "fast" setting, which wouldn't kill Henshaw. If he tried to use the slow ones, that CAN kill Henshaw, he would soon find his jaw clacked with a series of punches that KTFO'd Superman.Now, it would be back and forth for a little while, but Henshaw would not give Darkseid the time to unleash the full power of the Omega Beams at close range, [B]like he would need to. This is the dog; it is not hunting. Say something else. [/B]
the OMEGA BEAMS are not the OMEGA EFFECT. He can at any time have erased doomsday or hank. he chose instead to use force instead of entropy.

Starscream M Senior Member

Originally posted by fangirl101
the OMEGA BEAMS are not the OMEGA EFFECT. He can at any time have erased doomsday or hank. he chose instead to use force instead of entropy.
is darkseid your favorite character?

fangirl101 Restricted
Originally posted by Starscream M
is darkseid your favorite character?

no.
not even in the top ten.