Originally posted by -K-M-
Thier related, as your using a altenerate universe timeline as a powerlevel for main Darkseid. You even brought up Darkseid in Martian Manhunter 1,000,000...Come on. Show me that timeline then had no differences in power then, as in the future in that timeline Superman was still Electric Superman before his eventually death not wanting to side with Darkseid 😬
*Sigh* This was explained already, and you still have not shown why it's not a viable strategy against DS. Does his brain have extra protection in the present?
Originally posted by -K-M-
Oh the irony
Agreed. You're still going around with the xmen.
Originally posted by -K-M-
Oh my god, it's the exact same principle you tried to pass off as a viable tactic for main Darkseid.
Actually, what I've asked you with the knife is exactly the same principle, and infinitely simpler than the politics of the x-verse.
Originally posted by -K-M-
Great, so I provide evidence to suggest why you shouldn't use an alternate reality and then you tell me I'm ignoring responses yet you don't actually provide evidence to suggest why that Darkseid would be the same as the main universe Darkseid
I've asked you simply why that weakness would not be viable. You brought up logan and cyclops.
Originally posted by -K-M-
No I havn't, but I see you have yet to provide evidence. So like I said can I use Legion feats here? As your bringing up 1,000,000 incidents as well as from Rock of Ages which were set in the future
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Well then with your logic I'm using Legion feats then and Darkseid beats Cyborg 10/10 and with ease
Didn't you just state earlier that version of DS was weaker? Rock of ages was directly tied to that presence because of 1 decision. Is the legion future the same?
I haven't seen anything outside of unrelated xverse things. Simply, are you immune today to what can kill you tomorrow?
It's not that hard mungi. The guys been cut in half (would have been dead if not for a powerup) and had his heart ripped out in the span of 2 weeks.
Originally posted by Avlon
*Sigh* This was explained already, and you still have not shown why it's not a viable strategy against DS. Does his brain have extra protection in the present?
Really? Prove to me it is without using an alternate reality, especially since Darkseid here had to rely on a shield to block attacks 😬
Originally posted by Avlon
Agreed. You're still going around with the xmen.
and you clearly missed the point...once again 😬
Originally posted by Avlon
Actually, what I've asked you with the knife is exactly the same principle, and infinitely simpler than the politics of the x-verse.
No it's not, because it has shown in Marvel/DC that alternate timelines don't match up with established power levels defined in the main universe. SHow me it is.
Originally posted by Avlon
I've asked you simply why that weakness would not be viable. You brought up logan and cyclops.
Wow, because your trying to justify that an alternate timeline is legit to the main universe. Prove to me it is, you claim alot but have yet to back it up
Originally posted by Avlon
Didn't you just state earlier that version of DS was weaker? Rock of ages was directly tied to that presence because of 1 decision. Is the legion future the same?I haven't seen anything outside of unrelated xverse things. Simply, are you immune today to what can kill you tomorrow?
It's not that hard mungi. The guys been cut in half (would have been dead if not for a powerup) and had his heart ripped out in the span of 2 weeks.
Legion Darkseid said he wasn't as strong as what he was in present day and that's why he had to absorb all the powers to try to regain his might, but still commented he wasn't at his peak. Now did you see what Legion Darkseid did?
Are you kidding me? You keep using alternate realities, so I guess I can use feats when Diamond Lil dented the face of Colossus with a single punch, since their still the same characters 😬
You mean when he just beat the Source, and then got sneak attacked by Superman? Which Darkseid literally shattered like glass, so do you seriously believe that was a normal Darkseid? If that's the case, then I might as well as use upgraded Darkseid feats. Sweet, yeah it's not like Orion was destined to kill his father right?
Originally posted by jadervasonHow is he more durable than ever.
Henshaw's rings don't amp his durability because he's rarely used them to. The guy wants to die after all.He doesn't need a durability amp, SC henshaw is obviously more durable than ever.
If he is can he withstand the omega beams. Not a chance.
Originally posted by AvlonAlternate realities arent canon to the mainstream heroes/villains. They arent the same at all. So you using alternate reality deaths gets you nowhere. If you use their deaths to your favor you should be able to use gds feats for Darkseid and then you are totally screwed. So which you do you want it because either way Darkseid wins this all day.
*Sigh* This was explained already, and you still have not shown why it's not a viable strategy against DS. Does his brain have extra protection in the present?Agreed. You're still going around with the xmen.
Actually, what I've asked you with the knife is exactly the same principle, and infinitely simpler than the politics of the x-verse.
I've asked you simply why that weakness would not be viable. You brought up logan and cyclops.
Didn't you just state earlier that version of DS was weaker? Rock of ages was directly tied to that presence because of 1 decision. Is the legion future the same?
I haven't seen anything outside of unrelated xverse things. Simply, are you immune today to what can kill you tomorrow?
It's not that hard mungi. The guys been cut in half (would have been dead if not for a powerup) and had his heart ripped out in the span of 2 weeks.
Darkseid was cut in half because wasnt he basically drank the soulfire potion and it altered him. Supes never did that before and its right after he drank the potion basically. Darkseid reformed anyways. Darkseid then spared Superman so why bring this up? It got him nowhere. Do you really think Superman could fly threw darkseid? Why didnt he in countdown 3 then if its that easy.
And you saying Orion ripped his heart out fails totally as he just fought two beings just prior. He fought Superman used his brain and his powers to kill him but he was saved by the Atom. Then he beat Olsen up and down. Then comes Orion after hes already beat up a little. No shame in losing here when it goes with the new god prophecy anyways.
Originally posted by jadervasonHuh? You really think the Guardians were bloodlusted? Please explain why you feel this way. What did the do in the actual story to show they were bloodlusted.
Bloodlusted parallax was able to put a hole in henshaw's chest, one time. A bloodlusted guardian was unable to even stop him from talking garbage, this time.
This still doesnt prove he can survive the omega beams.
Well lets see... They were pretty pissed off that AM was there as when they encountered him once before he tooled them. and they were trying to kill Hank..That sounds pretty bloodlust to me. Hank has insane durability. This was the same attack that caused SBP to scream out in pain in the same issue. Yet Hank didn't show anything to say that he was even affected. If anything he was upset the Guardian couldn't to do more to him.