Classic Beyonder vs Lucifer

Originally posted by leonheartmm
marvel HASNT portrayed all realities. they havent shown any other characters but marevel's own. let see them make a statement like " the main dc universe is also part of the thingwhich was affected by abraxas/roma/LT. theyll have lawers on their ass faster than they can clean em. its a breach of COPYRIGHT. if we are to accept that marvel has different names for the same thing than i am compelled to say tha power level wise, 1 megaverse in marvel = 1 universe in dc. please dont be silly and re read teh argument i posted. marvel has no real right to go on changing the meanings of words, and if they do, well the word still represents the same old thing. doesnt make a difference in power levels.

I've read your argument. You're taking a "real world" definition to something fictitious. An omniverse is basically everything in creation. Marvel is a creation, so everything in Marvel is an omniverse. It's not that hard to figure out.

Originally posted by starlock
And your sure they claim the omniverse they depict as their own or do they just refer to the omniverse?

Their own 😐

Originally posted by llagrok
Their own 😐

Then i would like to see this evidence,if you dont mind 😉

Originally posted by celestialdemon
I've read your argument. You're taking a "real world" definition to something fictitious. An omniverse is basically everything in creation. Marvel is a creation, so everything in Marvel is an omniverse. It's not that hard to figure out.

Whatever marvel wants to call it, it still exist in an omniverse with DC and all realities....not that hard to figure out 😉

This has been dealt with before
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=474708&pagenumber=1

Originally posted by llagrok

Thanos didn't know about Warlock :/

That's speculation Master,
you might think it's implied or hinted at, but it's speculation.

I'm sure he didn't know, or did he?

"Three times you have triumphed to gained the ends you desire,
three time you have sub-consciously supplied the means to your own defeat"

Guess who wrote this story?

Same guy that wrote "The End: Marvel"

Same guy who created Thanos two act at times sub-consciously.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Just like he didn't know that making himself abstract
and leaving his body unprotected would lead to Nebula stealing the IG from a helpless body?

I'm sure he didn't know, or did he?

"Three times you have triumphed to gained the ends you desire,
three time you have sub-consciously supplied the means to your own defeat"

Guess who wrote this story?

Same guy that wrote "The End: Marvel"

Same guy who created Thanos two act at times sub-consciously.

Still speculation 😉

Thanos/THOTI became the Almighty Supreme Being of the Marvel Omniverse.

Anyone wants to challenge that fact, bring it! 😬

Thanos didn't know where Warlock was?

That's completely untrue.

Thanos instantly knew where Warlock was,
and WHAT Warlock was even doing there,
without ever being there.

Thanos overlooked Death for the same reasons he allowed Warlock to survive,
because of his sub-conscious will. (which has always been his catch 22)

..............................................................................

Thanos sub-consciously allowed Warlock to survive,
in order for Warlock to "witness" Thanos' "grand gesture"
that "grand gesture" being, ... healing Marvel by re-creating it.

This is Warlock's reply to Thanos after he finds the Time-Space gone,
when Thanos told him,
'I see no reason you should now not share the fate of your comrades'

....................................................................................

The Cosmic Anchor's domain is outside of Space-Time,
so one of two possibilities exist.

1. Either Thanos ONLY absorbed all of Space & Time. (not realms outside of it)

2. Atleza's realm just happened to be where Warlock was at,
and Thanos wanted Warlock to witness his "grand gesture"
so he allowed Atleza's realm to survive.

Which is probably the reason why the ONLY other being that appears is Death,
it's not a coincidence that Thanos would sub-consciously allow her to survive as well.
Although Warlock attributed her survival to being located outside of Space-Time.

Imo, #2, and the reason I just explained why Death lived, fits.

Why?

Because in Starlin's interview, which I have the link for if you're interested,
he explains that the ENTIRE Marvel Universe was destroyed by Thanos.

He states that originally it was going to be non-canon,
because destroying all of Marvel for ever was impossible,
so they supposed Jim place the story in a twin reality that resembles Marvel, but wasn't,
Jim didn't like the idea, he wanted it to be canon,
so he instead proposed Thanos re-creating the Marvel Universe at the end,
therefore allowing the story to stay canon, which of course, it is.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Thanos/THOTI became the Almighty Supreme Being of the Marvel Omniverse.

Anyone wants to challenge that fact, bring it! 😬

Thanos didn't know where Warlock was?

That's completely untrue.

Thanos instantly knew where Warlock was,
and WHAT Warlock was even doing there,
without ever being there.

Thanos overlooked Death for the same reasons he allowed Warlock to survive,
because of his sub-conscious will. (which has always been catch 22)

..............................................................................

Thanos sub-consciously allowed Warlock to survive,
in order for Warlock to "witness" Thanos' "grand gesture"
that "grand gesture" being, ... healing Marvel by re-creating it.

This is Warlock's reply to Thanos after he finds the Time-Space gone,
when Thanos told him,
'I see no reason you should now not share the fate of your comrades'

....................................................................................

The Cosmic Anchor's domain is outside of Space-Time,
so one of two possibilities exist.

1. Either Thanos ONLY absorbed all of Space & Time. (not realms outside of it)

2. Atleza's realm just happened to be where Warlock was at,
and Thanos wanted Warlock to witness his "grand gesture"
so he allowed Atleza's realm to survive.

Which is probably the reason why the ONLY other being that appears is Death,
it's not a coincidence that Thanos would sub-consciously allow her to survive as well.
Although Warlock attributed her survival to being located outside of Space-Time.

Imo, #2, and the reason I just explained why Death lived, fits.

Why?

Because in Starlin's interview, which I have the link for if you're interested,
he explains that the ENTIRE Marvel Universe was destroyed by Thanos.

He states that originally it was going to be non-canon,
because destroying all of Marvel for ever was impossible,
so they supposed Jim place the story in a twin reality that resembles Marvel, but wasn't,
Jim didn't like the idea, he wanted it to be canon,
so he instead proposed Thanos re-creating the Marvel Universe at the end,
therefore allowing the story to stay canon, which of course, it is.

Originally posted by starlock
This still leaves it to you speculating 🙁

Originally posted by starlock

This still leaves it to you speculating

Originally posted by Mr Master
I don't expect any other response from you. 🙂

And i did not expect anything other than your interpretation/opinion to be used as fact 🙂

It might also be mentioned that Thanos overlooked Adamn and Death, meaning he had the power to kill them, but for reasons he didn't know (subconscious reasons) he didn't.

Originally posted by fangirl101

And doesn't it amaze you that people actually expect thier speculation to be taken as fact?

😂

Warlock knows Thanos better than Thanos knows himself,
that's the way Starlin writes him,
someone had to be there in the end to convince Thanos to re-create Marvel,
that someone was Adam Warlock.

Yall are ignoring the fact that this a comic book story,
if Starlin didn't allow Warlock to survive, then the book could have no ending.

It makes perfect sense it was a sub-conscious act letting Warlock live,
for said Canon reasons. (concerning Thanos' sub-conscious actions)

Originally posted by Astner
It might also be mentioned that Thanos overlooked Adamn and Death, meaning he had the power to kill them, but for reasons he didn't know (subconscious reasons) he didn't.

The supreme being has no subconcious.

Originally posted by fangirl101

The supreme being has no subconcious.

But in Marvel comics, he does.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Right, it is speculation that Thanos has always loved Death,
and that Warlock is an anomaly beyond the influence of Eternity/Infinity.

😂

Warlock knows Thanos better than Thanos knows himself,
that's the way Starlin writes him,
someone had to be there in the end to convince Thanos to re-create Marvel,
that someone was Adam Warlock.

Yall are ignoring the fact that this a comic book story,
if Starlin didn't allow Warlock to survive, then the book could have no ending.

It makes perfect sense it was a sub-conscious act letting Warlock live,
for said Canon reasons. (concerning Thanos' sub-conscious actions)

The One above all is the writer. He's God. Thanos was never God. Not even on panel. Warlock is beyong the influence of two concepts. Never above the influence or under the notice of God. EVER.

Originally posted by Mr Master
In your head, I'm sure you're right.

But in Marvel comics, he does.

Originally posted by fangirl101
The supreme being has no subconcious.

Now, saying that a supreme being doesn't have any subconsciousness is limiting in nature. But then again, so are many other things.

Originally posted by starlock
Whatever marvel wants to call it, it still exist in an omniverse with DC and all realities....not that hard to figure out 😉

This has been dealt with before
http://www.killermovies.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=474708&pagenumber=1

Show me the proper definition of an omniverse.

Originally posted by Astner
Alternate scenario, Thanos knows all future time-lines that can occur. He knows that the one with Adam and Death surviving is the most pleasant one. So he, before this act he gave himself subconsciousness.

Now, saying that a supreme being doesn't have any subconsciousness is limiting in nature. But then again, so are many other things.