Originally posted by Bicnarok
The problem with this question is that the asker doesn´t seem to understand that God is obviously outside the time zone where there´s a start and finish along an x to y timeline. So he doesn´t have to come from anywhere, but was always there.
I agree with this, and I have to wonder if God himself remembers in full his past and what not since he's been alive so long.
energy was an outcome of the big bang, a property of the universe so to speak which can do WORK. it didnt exist in the form of ENERGY before the big bang. basically, you are looking for a first cause and doing it by going for a mystical, rather than, physical, definition of the word "energy" . but u wont find it.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
only, the energy from the big bang can be observed
So were sitting on a spec called a world, in a spec called a galaxy amongst uncountable other galaxy´s and beyond that there´s the unknown.
So far we have apparently gone as far as the moon, an insignificant distance, we cannot fathom how gravity works amongst other things, and your telling me by measuring certain energy from space which could have been changed by unknown anomaly's of which we couldn´t even dream off, that we can deduce that "oh a big bang must have happened"
What an absolute load of bollocks´s.
we do know how gravity works, just not 100%, as is the case with all things. u are misinformed and seem to WANT things to be mysterious. we are as yet unaware of why gravity is so weak compared to other forces. as for what we CAN do, we can accelerate particles to near lightspeed, recreate conditions near a microsecond after the big bang, etc etc. all evidence{and there is a lot of it} points towards there being a big bang, including the expansion of the universe and galaxy clusters. and the background radiation leftover from the big bang is almost completely uniform irrespective of which direction you sense it from in the sky, discounting you "anomolies" theory. oh and hey, we can clarly observe galaxy clusters billions upon billions of lightyears away, so to say that we live on a spec called the earth, hence we cant know whats beyond it is akin to saying that humans are not more than 8 feat tall and hence cant OBSERVE what is going on a few miles away.
Originally posted by Bicnarok
The problem with this question is that the asker doesn´t seem to understand that God is obviously outside the time zone where there´s a start and finish along an x to y timeline. So he doesn´t have to come from anywhere, but was always there.
how do you know he exists outside the timezone? and seeing as you discount sceptics on the basis of their beleif being based in TIMEZONE, how is it that YOU existing INSIDE the timezone{i presume} can have felt/sensed anything OUTSIDE the timezone{which tells you that god is outside the timezone to begin with} when others can not?
Originally posted by leonheartmm
how do you know he exists outside the timezone? and seeing as you discount sceptics on the basis of their beleif being based in TIMEZONE, how is it that YOU existing INSIDE the timezone{i presume} can have felt/sensed anything OUTSIDE the timezone{which tells you that god is outside the timezone to begin with} when others can not?
Imagination. 😉
observation. when imagination is based in observation, then science/logic/reason. comes into play, when your observation is flawed or you are coming up with unwarranted hypothesis{through your imagination} from your observations then it is illogical. things based almost purely in imagination are fantasies.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
observation. when imagination is based in observation, then science/logic/reason. comes into play, when your observation is flawed or you are coming up with unwarranted hypothesis{through your imagination} from your observations then it is illogical. things based almost purely in imagination are fantasies.
I was asking Shaky.