Originally posted by leonheartmm
wow, just wow. you completely missed the point where i said that euthanasia would have to take into consideration the state that the person is in.{ofcourse i would be conflicted and definately considering authanasia for a person in severe incurable pain}. to which you replied that it is the SAME as when the person is not in pain as its just a decision, so basically you are negating yourself here. makes me wonder whether you are arguing just for the sake of argument here.
You think you should be the one to decide which pain counts and which doesn't. That's my point, you deny people that think that they'd be better off dead the right to kill themselves because you think they'd not be better of dead. Your opinion should not intervene with their lives and theirs alone.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
and no, i do understand facism very well. an
Nah, you are way too stupid.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
says the person with one of the most egotistical replies id seen, claiming that his simple one paragraph argument trumped every other argument in the entire world against unconditional authanasia.
Yeah, would be funny if that happened. Didn't, stop lying or being too stupid to understand what's going on.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
thats kind of like the joker saying "ooh, io did promise you that id return you homse safely after you did your part, but i never said ALIVE now did i?" . you are first calling those who hinder even the slightest in people;s ability to make decisions facists, then you say that the situation is very DIFFERENT{when there is no real difference} if its YOUR mother about to commit suicide and that you would interfere, and when later faced witrh a claim of hypocricy, you conveniently change the argument and say that you actually would if it wasnr spur of the moment. so which one is it, as i am royally confused now. also, are you seriously saying that you would let your mother commit suicide if she isnt already in a terminal or unbearable physical or clinical psychological condition simply because she WANTS to and it is her decision{a clear yes or no would be greatly appreciated}
Idiot. The situation is different. Not going to go deeper into it, since you are too stupid to understand and no one else needs to be convinced of it.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
and also, you put conditions when it is your 6 year old daughter, {i.e. IF SHE understands teh ramifications}. this is inconsistant with your argument as you already argued against me when i brought up the SAME point in this post about suicidals NOT understanding the ramifications of their actions and having illogical beleifs like they will go to a better place. infact the part of your reply right BELOW this was an opposition to this very argument that i presented. do you have any idea how inconsistant your stance is?
Wow. You don't understand the differnece between emotional involvement and rational laws at all, do you? Figures, to arrive at an idiotic conclusion like you did, you must be wrong in the basics.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
and really, WOULD YOU or would you NOT, let your 6 year old daughter in an orgy if SHE decided it irrespective of understanding the ramification or not, as in our own words "You think they don't really want it so they shouldn't do it. Luckily you, leon****tardmm, were not made the ultimate ruler and decider of life...people are different. What applies to you, doesn't apply to everyone else."
Dude, read that back to yourself, it doesn't make any sense. And I told you already that I would if she did decide that...ultimately everyones decision should be their own.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
you are being majorly hypocritical here as see by your above post. also, i really do wonder whether i shud start reporting people for this type of replies, i never have before and it is a bit wierd for me.
Idiot.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
desperate attempt at reconciliation with a blunder poreviously made by yours truly. am i to beleive that you were SO in character in that last post that you actually types the action your body would take, neglecting that it was a hypothetical situation and that you DID have the use of your mind, and not even GIVE the persepctive of what youd ACTUALLY{your claim} do in the situatin if you knew more and ONLY came up with it when you were called a hypocrite????? come on, admit it, you didnt think this while things throught and therefore, your emotions betrayed you inconcistance which looked like hypocrisy.{btw, i dont beleive youd ever let your mother kill herlself simply because she FELT like it at a whime, unless you really hate your mother.}
I answered the question truthfully in the way it was posed to me. "If you'd walk in on your mom killing herself would you stop her"...you then derived your own further conclusions from it and called me a hypocrite on the basis of nothing I ever said.
Originally posted by leonheartmm
wow this is a mature and logical way to rebutt isnt it? again, isnt what you are doing against forum rules and the general rules of human decency and reciporcative respect?
Yes. That is the mature and logical way to refute and argument that is based on something I never said. I'd assume you would do the same if I'd say "But, as you said earlier, you think porn stars do all make mature and intelligent decisions, ergo what you say now is wrong".
Also, if you want further replies to your "points" then address them to me in readable, grammatically decent, well paragraphed, and spellchecked English.
Originally posted by Symmetric Chaos
You can't fathom why it would be liberating to partake in the most natural possible human act with the knowledge that other people would gain some enjoyment from your actions? That's before you get paid.Fu*k this. I'm going to star in a porno.
Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
No, I can't fathom why it would be liberating to be degraded to the point of being a piece of ****meat so that others could use one as a tool to achieve sexual gratification.
Dude, some people get off to the fact that others get off to them getting off. They like it when someone watches them.
Still, I'd say they mostly do it because of the money and its something they like doing for money. I like computers..I do computer stuff for money...I'm exploited and abused all the time for my knowledge...but I like it...
See how it works? 😄
Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Who cares? Is being a dust sweeper, office clerk, sales assistant or tax attorney liberating? Of course not, you're still selling yourself and it's still your choice.
There's a difference between selling yourself for doing menial tasks and being objectified to the point where your only use is to sate one of the most base desires.
Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
Who cares? Not me, particularly. I feel bad for women into pornography, but I certainly can't stop them--much like I can't stop prostitutes.There's a difference between selling yourself for doing menial tasks and being objectified to the point where your only use is to sate one of the most base desires.
Why do you feel bad for them? There's more worthy people to feel bad for, spare them you holier than thou shoulder to cry on.
Originally posted by Zeal Ex NihiloYou may think it's degrading.
Who cares? Not me, particularly. I feel bad for women into pornography, but I certainly can't stop them--much like I can't stop prostitutes.There's a difference between selling yourself for doing menial tasks and being objectified to the point where your only use is to sate one of the most base desires.
They may not.
You're not necessarily right, and neither necessarily are they. But their opinion is probably more relevant.
Jenna's still raking it in, so I think you can save your pity for people more in need.
Originally posted by chillmeistergen
Why do you feel bad for them? There's more worthy people to feel bad for, spare them you holier than thou shoulder to cry on.
Originally posted by xmarksthespot
You may think it's degrading.They may not.
You're not necessarily right, and neither necessarily are they. But their opinion is probably more relevant.
Jenna's still raking it in, so I think you can save your pity for people more in need.
Originally posted by Zeal Ex Nihilo
It's not a "holier-than-thou" thing. I feel bad for people who degrade themselves to the point of being a piece of meat that some guy masturbates to.I can think that someone pooping in my mouth is not degrading all I want, it still doesn't change the fact that it is.
That is a holier than thou thing. Their standards are not yours. Get over it.