Tyrant "depowered" vs. Odin

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Tyrant > Thanos + Enchantment > Thanos
Odin > Thanos

Tyrant > Odin

Originally posted by celestialdemon
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I know mine isn't, and I never try to pass it off like it is. However, I've seen you basically talk down to people for even suggesting Odin might be more powerful than Tyrant. That's wrong.

Galactus wasn't caught off guard. He knew where he was going and who had Morg. Same thing with Tyrant. He knew holding Morg would eventually bring Galactus around.

Again, why would Tyrant need special preparation if he could have just absorbed Galactus' power and gotten stronger during the standoff? Anything Galactus tried should have been useless, right?

And why wouldn't Tyrant be ready for Galactus the first time when he knew he was coming and he still had his absorption abilities?

Ok sometimes I get into debating in the heat of the moment. I apologize if I talked down to you. When I believe something I so badly want to convince you.

Both Galactus and Tyrant decided a direct confrontation at this time would benefit neither. Thats all i can say about that. the rest if either you or I speculating.

I dont think that Tyrant absorbing his power would have been the only hand played there. Galactus has more than blasts in his repertoire, I think Tyrant wanted to be sure he was ready for this rematch as he had lost their first confrontation.

We dont know if Tyrant had these absorption abilities in their first fight or somehow acquired them before their second fight. Its all speculation.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Well I think it wouldnt be as easy but then again its merely my opinion. You disagree so lets leave this at that and kill this issue.

Agreed.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Ok sometimes I get into debating in the heat of the moment. I apologize if I talked down to you. When I believe something I so badly want to convince you.

Apology accepted.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Both Galactus and Tyrant decided a direct confrontation at this time would benefit neither. Thats all i can say about that. the rest if either you or I speculating.

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Originally posted by quanchi112
I dont think that Tyrant absorbing his power would have been the only hand played there. Galactus has more than blasts in his repertoire, I think Tyrant wanted to be sure he was ready for this rematch as he had lost their first confrontation.

But if Galactus was, according to you, desperate enough in the second fight to use tech because none of his attacks were working, then how would things be any different during the standoff, especially since Galactus wasn't well fed in the standoff like he was in the second fight?

Originally posted by quanchi112
We dont know if Tyrant had these absorption abilities in their first fight or somehow acquired them before their second fight. Its all speculation.

If he assume he had those powers in the first fight, then he didn't use them and allowed himself to get beaten. That isn't like Tyrant at all.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Apology accepted.

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But if Galactus was, according to you, desperate enough in the second fight to use tech because none of his attacks were working, then how would things be any different during the standoff, especially since Galactus wasn't well fed in the standoff like he was in the second fight?

If he assume he had those powers in the first fight, then he didn't use them and allowed himself to get beaten. That isn't like Tyrant at all.

Again I dont know how things would have played out differently. It seems Tyrant would have an even bigger advantage if he fought then. For whatever reason though he didnt fight him there. I think he hadnt planned on fighting Galactus then so thats why he put it off.

With regards to the first fight its all speculation. Thats why I tend to focus on the second fight as we can watched every moment of it and have all the details of what happened.

Odin wins.

Originally posted by Classic NES
Odin wins.
Why do you think so?

Sup Quan?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Why do you think so?

Better showings.

Originally posted by Classic NES
Sup Quan?

Better showings.

Better than beating on Galactus? tyrant has not one low showing and did better against Thanos who was prepared in their battle.

Wow this thread has been revived! I'm going with my pick Tyrant, since he had a better showing fighting Thanos than Odin did. But let me explain. Before Tyrant fought Thanos, he was preoccupied against Terrax, Ganymede, and Jack of Hearts. Tyrant did not have time to rest (Not like he need it) when Thanos showed up and challenged him. And we know how the battle turned out.

From what I saw between Odin and Thanos, I think Odin was going all out since he brought out Gunjnir to try to put Thanos out, but couldn't. He was not going easy on Thanos since the team took out Asgard and Thanos said there is no way to reason with him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Better than beating on Galactus?

Galactus is a jobber, though.

Originally posted by quanchi112

tyrant has not one low showing and did better against Thanos who was prepared in their battle.

We don't count low showings anyway, I don't see why that should matter. Odin would rock Thanos in his regular showings for sure.

Originally posted by Classic NES

We don't count low showings anyway, I don't see why that should matter. Odin would rock Thanos in his regular showings for sure. [/B]

For the first few comic strips, Thanos was hanging on to Odin and giving him a fight, until Odin brought out Gungnir. Then the battle kind of became one sided. Thanos was able to take hits from gungnir and at one point was trying to grab it away from Odin. I believe it Odin hadn't use Gungnir, Thanos would have gotten a few more hits from him. Just my theory.

Tyrant cut Galactus.

Invisible Woman blasted a hole straight through Galactus.

Invisible Woman >>> Tyrant >> Odin

Thanos Vs. Odin is a low showing the All Father. There really is no way he should be able to hand with a Sky Father let alone the likes of Odin.

Originally posted by Classic NES
Galactus is a jobber, though.

We don't count low showings anyway, I don't see why that should matter. Odin would rock Thanos in his regular showings for sure.

But Odin didnt rock Thanos. They fought. Tyrant also took on a prepared Thanos with an orb. Tyrant did better against the same opponent and took on Galactus who is more powerful than anyone Odin has taken on imo.

Originally posted by Bada's Palin
Tyrant cut Galactus.

Invisible Woman blasted a hole straight through Galactus.

Invisible Woman >>> Tyrant >> Odin

Galactus was well fed and was prepared to battle Tyrant. Galactus backed down and let him take Morg. When has Galactus ever backed down from a one on one fight with Sue?

Originally posted by quanchi112
But Odin didnt rock Thanos. They fought.

He should have rocked him, which is why it's a low showing mane.

Originally posted by quanchi112

Tyrant also took on a prepared Thanos with an orb. Tyrant did better against the same opponent and took on Galactus who is more powerful than anyone Odin has taken on imo.

I think Galactus>Odin as well, but it doesn't change the fact that he's a reputable jobber.

Originally posted by Classic NES
He should have rocked him, which is why it's a low showing mane.

I think Galactus>Odin as well, but it doesn't change the fact that he's a reputable jobber.

Thats your opinion which has no bearing on whats canon and what isnt. Its like you saying I didnt like the outcome and thats not how it should have gone according to you. It still counts.

Galactus loses yes,but Tyrant kicked his ass by himself and when he was well fed.

Close call am gonna with Odin FTW

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thats your opinion which has no bearing on whats canon and what isnt.
Its like you saying I didnt like the outcome and thats not how it should have gone according to you. It still counts.

Canon isn't always consistent which is why we have PIS. Canonically speaking Odin has much better showings than Thanos and should mop the floor with him. Unless we are just gonna take all bouts for face value and ignore what a Character can do?

Originally posted by quanchi112

Galactus loses yes,but Tyrant kicked his ass by himself and when he was well fed.

A Well Fed Galactus has maxed himself out breaking Thanos shield in certain showings. His jobbing prowess is clearly independent of him being fed or not.