Tyrant "depowered" vs. Odin

Originally posted by celestialdemon
How many other people had to opportunity the clone had? None of them. Odin was going to be given a potion he thought was going to give him strength because he was already weak. The clone just had Tarakis give him poison instead of healing him. But the clone needed a weak Odin for it to work.

Because Odin was weak to begin with. Saying that if the real Thanos wanted to take over Asgard he could is just as pointless as me saying if Odin wanted to kill Thanos at any time he wanted he could.

So then why are you claiming Thanos can take over Asgard if he's going to lose in the end? Pretty stupid if you ask me.

No he failed to put him down on panel in a long fight, Thanos was fine at the end of it.

Thanos could take it over. But sooner or later he would be dethroned. Look at him wit the ig and the heart. Eventually for comics sake he has to give up these powerups in some form or another. This is common sense.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos used the orb which he didnt have against Odin he used against Tyrant. This is an uncommon factor.

And assuming that the orb is the only reason Thanos was able to hurt Tyrant or that Thanos w/orb would be able to hurt Odin is speculation at best.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes there is proof. There are no black marks on Tyrant,he beat up on Galactus, and he did better against Thanos with prep.

There's no marks on Odin either. Thanos was able to actually harm Tyrant. He couldn't do a damn thing to Odin.

Originally posted by quanchi112
He wasnt wrong when he stated that. Thanos has never been wrong on a clone. He created them he knows. Prove he has been wrong when determining a clones power levels if not concede.

Okay, you just said that Thanos shouldn't be able to create a clone to be as powerful as himself because of the Mistress Death upgrade. Now you are saying he was right about making a clone that is twice as powerful as Galactus. How is that possible? If he can't make a clone more powerful than himself using his own DNA, how can he make a clone twice as powerful as Galactus using Galactus' own DNA?

Also, Galactus actually was able to survive a planet exploding. Omega couldn't. How is that being twice as powerful?

Originally posted by quanchi112
We dont know that. All we know for certain is Odin was winning at the point in which the fight stopped.

Yes, we do know that. Thanos was getting the sh*t kicked out of him and was unable to harm Odin in any fashion.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again we didnt see his entire fight only bits and pieces of it. His powers never changed and if the did they are currently what they were against Galactus the second time. You know his size changed right since the first fight. So maybe his powers changed and maybe they didnt. Point is you must accept them.

We saw Tyrant get put down by an eye blasts. We also saw Tyrant's power level reduced by an eye blasts. Nothing was ever said about changing his powers, which wouldn't make sense that Galactus would go ahead and depower Tyrant due give him the ability to absorb bse.

Also, during the standoff, if Tyrant could absorb Galactus' bse, then there should have been no standoff. That was a far better opportunity to take out Galactus than their confrontation ended up being.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The Thanos clone used a situation to his advantage, its what great minds do. Odin was easily taken out is the point.

Again, I didn't say it was a brilliant move. I'm saying the only reason why he was able to do it was because of Odin being weakened and even wanting the potion. Taking advantage of this opportunity to try taking over Asgard isn't the same thing as taking it over at will like you seem to think.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No he failed to put him down on panel in a long fight, Thanos was fine at the end of it.

The fight wasn't as long as you think it was. Thanos wasn't doing anything to Odin. The only reason Thanos was "fine" at the end was because Odin called off his attack. If Odin wanted Thanos dead, Thanos couldn't do much to stop it.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos could take it over. But sooner or later he would be dethroned. Look at him wit the ig and the heart. Eventually for comics sake he has to give up these powerups in some form or another. This is common sense.

Again, if he could easily do the same thing to Tyrant, what's your point?

I am going to pick Odin for the win

I still think there is no clear winner here, so i am just using my best judgement

Originally posted by quanchi112
It isnt hyperbole its factual data concerning Thanos' clone Omega and his power levels.

I never said separating Galactus would put him at a disadvantage at all. It worked on Omega which was a plot device. As you said he was an uncompleted clone pretty much. Thanos didnt work out all the kinks.

Nicely done with the scan it shows Thanos will investigate before he makes a decision very unlike Galactus and the Hunger. He reacted first and shit his pants later. Thanos wanted to find out what was in Annihilus' and found out for himself exactly what he had been planning. He wasnt an idiot like Galactus.

No other beings have torn his heart out and beat him in one shot. Not even Galactus friend who is a lot more powerful than Drax and who recently underwent a significant change since the last time they met.

Catch my drift.

The scan says it all Thanos found out more info before reaching a decision while Galactus didnt and screwed up bigtime. Thanos is a much smarter being that Galactus.

All Thanos had to do was release Galactus and even when he didnt someone else did. Annihilus' planes were beaten rather easily. Free Galactus and the universes dont go boom. 😛

Thanos cleaned up Galactus' mess with the Hunger as we both know.

http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Thanos/?action=view&current=omegagalactus.jpg

Probably twice of Galactus not certain, until Captain Marvel stats that Omega dwarfs the Original, but then again we know Omega has devoured three planets and is operating at full power

http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t173/EndlessMike9/Thanos/?action=view&current=omegachallengegalactus.jpg

No he didn't hence it wasn't a plot device, since Omega was a limited being with a limited understanding/intelligence not capable of looking past the obvious, as shown when Pip blow up his ship, he detected Pip however...

Yes he will investigate based on Moondragons comment you said that Thanos was the initiave to the investigation I proved you wrong. Galactus was a Idiot because he didn't listen to a person that previously had used the Gems to gain universal dominance, is known as a manipulator and that was worked against him the entire time... Well Thanos is a equal Idiot because he let Annihilus outsmart him and wouldn't have found out unless Moondragon informed him.

Oh and you think that would change anything? Please, Galactus broke through all of Thanos forcefields in one blast Drax broke through One, Galactus could easily have killed Thanos with his next blast, Drax used his "silver bullet" to kill thanos because Thanos got careless what a Idiot, which Galactus didn't become by not trusting Thanos.

Thanos had no reason not to trust Moondragon, he stood to lose nothing, Galactus again was confronted with a enemy that constantly worked against him, had blasted him through the side of his own ship and had attempted to force information from him, Answer my question What reasons did Galactus have to trust Thanos? I can easily mention them for you, none at all.

All Thanos had to do, you make is sound easy, which it was for Thanos agreed but again you are forgetting that Thanos didn't want to be on the receiving end of Galactus wrath and two Thanos didn't have a choice, the manipulator had been manipulated.

I isn't denying that, just mentioning key factors in Galactus powerset that he himself forgot.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
And assuming that the orb is the only reason Thanos was able to hurt Tyrant or that Thanos w/orb would be able to hurt Odin is speculation at best.

There's no marks on Odin either. Thanos was able to actually harm Tyrant. He couldn't do a damn thing to Odin.

Okay, you just said that Thanos shouldn't be able to create a clone to be as powerful as himself because of the Mistress Death upgrade. Now you are saying he was right about making a clone that is twice as powerful as Galactus. How is that possible? If he can't make a clone more powerful than himself using his own DNA, how can he make a clone twice as powerful as Galactus using Galactus' own DNA?

Also, Galactus actually was able to survive a planet exploding. Omega couldn't. How is that being twice as powerful?

Yes, we do know that. Thanos was getting the sh*t kicked out of him and was unable to harm Odin in any fashion.

We saw Tyrant get put down by an eye blasts. We also saw Tyrant's power level reduced by an eye blasts. Nothing was ever said about changing his powers, which wouldn't make sense that Galactus would go ahead and depower Tyrant due give him the ability to absorb bse.

Also, during the standoff, if Tyrant could absorb Galactus' bse, then there should have been no standoff. That was a far better opportunity to take out Galactus than their confrontation ended up being.

Again Thanos used the orb but didnt use the orb on Odin. See the difference? We have been over this countless times and I am winning.

The Galactus clone was able to be tampred with because of the dna. Who knows what he did? The fact remains that there hasnt been a clone o fhimself more powerful than the original Thanos outside the Galactus dna.

Being powerful has nothing I repeat nothing to do with durability.
So Omega wasnt as durable but again was more powerful.

Thanos was fine and was getting blasted more in the Odin fight and longer. Odin has one blast from gungir that was a solid blast while he charged through it.

Again quit speculating. If Galactus could have depowered him the same way he did the first time he would have. Use common sense please.

Again the comic played out how it did. Your coulda woulda shoudas are just speculation and you whining.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
Again, I didn't say it was a brilliant move. I'm saying the only reason why he was able to do it was because of Odin being weakened and even wanting the potion. Taking advantage of this opportunity to try taking over Asgard isn't the same thing as taking it over at will like you seem to think.

The fight wasn't as long as you think it was. Thanos wasn't doing anything to Odin. The only reason Thanos was "fine" at the end was because Odin called off his attack. If Odin wanted Thanos dead, Thanos couldn't do much to stop it.

Again, if he could easily do the same thing to Tyrant, what's your point?

You are saying Thanos couldnt teleport out of there if he was close to death. Do you really think if he was near death he woul ddie just to help Thor?

My point is a Thanos clone didnt need the ig to take over asgard or to take Odin out he just needed poison and some help. He lost but the villains usually do eventually.

Originally posted by quanchi112
It doesnt matter. The orb wasnt used against Odin. Its an uncommon factor.

Again Thanos used the orb but didnt use the orb on Odin. See the difference? We have been over this countless times and I am winning.

😆 You are deluded, that's what you are. You sometimes say the orb helped Thanos hurt Tyrant and would have done the same to Odin, but other times you say it's an uncommon factor. If it's an uncommon factor, then why do you use it at all to gauge how well Thanos did against either one, especially since you have no idea how much it helped Thanos?

Originally posted by quanchi112
The Galactus clone was able to be tampred with because of the dna. Who knows what he did? The fact remains that there hasnt been a clone o fhimself more powerful than the original Thanos outside the Galactus dna.

So what? Thanos has DNA also, does he not. If Galactus' DNA can be tampered with to make it twice as powerful than the original, then it stands to reason Thanos' can also.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Being powerful has nothing I repeat nothing to do with durability.
So Omega wasnt as durable but again was more powerful.

So how was he able to make a Galactus clone that was supposedly twice as powerful as the original, yet there's no way his own clone can be as powerful as himself, according to you?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos was fine and was getting blasted more in the Odin fight and longer. Odin has one blast from gungir that was a solid blast while he charged through it.

Odin blasted him twice with Gungir. The first sent Thanos halfway across Asgard. Tyrant never did anything like that, either.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again quit speculating. If Galactus could have depowered him the same way he did the first time he would have. Use common sense please.

Which is why it's PIS. Just because it involves one of your favorite characters doesn't mean it's not. Tyrant didn't have that ability until this story only.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again the comic played out how it did. Your coulda woulda shoudas are just speculation and you whining.

I'm not whining. I'm stating things how I see them. You're resorting to saying I'm whining because you also have absolutely no explanation why things went down the way they did. You're just creaming yourself that Tyrant actually had a good showing against Galactus, no matter how dumb the situation was.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The point is he did it. He seized an opportunity and he had him poisoned. Of course he couldnt just keep having him poisoned. Quit with your coulda woulda shoulda style of debating. It happened and was accomplished by a clone.

You're accusing me of "coulda woulda shoulda" yet you're the one who is constantly running your mouth about how the real Thanos can take our Asgard anytime he wants because his clone did it. Please. How about you try listening to yourself before you type.

Again, Odin was already weakened. Poisoning an already weakened Odin isn't the same as poisoning a normal Odin, so stop acting like the clone would have had just as easy of a time either way.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You are saying Thanos couldnt teleport out of there if he was close to death. Do you really think if he was near death he woul ddie just to help Thor?

I didn't say he was near death. You're arguing that if Thanos wants he can over Asgard anytime he wants. If you want to argue like that, you can do it the other way, too. If Odin wants, he can track down and kill Thanos anytime he wants. That's why debating like that is stupid.

Originally posted by quanchi112
My point is a Thanos clone didnt need the ig to take over asgard or to take Odin out he just needed poison and some help. He lost but the villains usually do eventually.

He didn't take over Asgard, so don't make it sound like he did. He failed. If your defense is "villains usually do eventually" then Odin has nothing to worry about the real Thanos ever taking over, so you'd might as well drop that argument. 😛

Originally posted by celestialdemon
😆 You are deluded, that's what you are. You sometimes say the orb helped Thanos hurt Tyrant and would have done the same to Odin, but other times you say it's an uncommon factor. If it's an uncommon factor, then why do you use it at all to gauge how well Thanos did against either one, especially since you have no idea how much it helped Thanos?

So what? Thanos has DNA also, does he not. If Galactus' DNA can be tampered with to make it twice as powerful than the original, then it stands to reason Thanos' can also.

So how was he able to make a Galactus clone that was supposedly twice as powerful as the original, yet there's no way his own clone can be as powerful as himself, according to you?

Odin blasted him twice with Gungir. The first sent Thanos halfway across Asgard. Tyrant never did anything like that, either.

Which is why it's PIS. Just because it involves one of your favorite characters doesn't mean it's not. Tyrant didn't have that ability until this story only.

I'm not whining. I'm stating things how I see them. You're resorting to saying I'm whining because you also have absolutely no explanation why things went down the way they did. You're just creaming yourself that Tyrant actually had a good showing against Galactus, no matter how dumb the situation was.

Again all you are doing is speculating. As prove Omega was the only clone who was more powerful than the real Thanos. If you want to prove a certain clone is more powerful do it but please quit with all your speculation.

We have seen Thanos make a more powerful version of Galactus but we havent seen him confirm there was a more powerful version of himself. Why on earth would he create a more powerful version of himself anyways. The only more powerful version of Thanos was created by Magus as stated on panel during the Infinity War. Go by what we know and quit speculating.

Odin had concentrated blasts on Thanos while Tyrant had less and didnt concentrated any blasts which obviously does more damage than just a quick blast would do.

Its Tyrants powerset and was explained in this story. Those are his powers. Quit whining about it already.

Yes you are whining its canon and it explained his powerset yet you cant seem to understand that. Do you think his powerset is pis?

Originally posted by celestialdemon
You're accusing me of "coulda woulda shoulda" yet you're the one who is constantly running your mouth about how the real Thanos can take our Asgard anytime he wants because his clone did it. Please. How about you try listening to yourself before you type.

Again, Odin was already weakened. Poisoning an already weakened Odin isn't the same as poisoning a normal Odin, so stop acting like the clone would have had just as easy of a time either way.

I didn't say he was near death. You're arguing that if Thanos wants he can over Asgard anytime he wants. If you want to argue like that, you can do it the other way, too. If Odin wants, he can track down and kill Thanos anytime he wants. That's why debating like that is stupid.

He didn't take over Asgard, so don't make it sound like he did. He failed. If your defense is "villains usually do eventually" then Odin has nothing to worry about the real Thanos ever taking over, so you'd might as well drop that argument. 😛

Again the clone took him out. Explaining that he couldnt do this in the same manner is irrelevant. He did it in this manner because this way was available to him.

Thanos has takeon over the universe while asgard is small potatoes. He sent an high end Thanos clone as an experiment to take over asgard and that nearly worked. The real Thanos woul ddecimate asgard if he wanted to. A clone did and this clone was only an experiment. Do you realize how many clones he could create and send over to asgard?

Odin couldnt even defeat Thanos and Thanos could have teleported away. First thing you have to prove is that Odin can even beat him before he can easily track him down and kill him. I mean come on and use something to back up your petty claims.

Again it was only an experiment. The real Thanos doesnt want asgard but if he did his past history says it would be a cakewalk. The Thanos clone did fail but thanks to Thor because Odin was on the sidelines.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again its an uncommon factor and when I say it was powerful its because you are claiming it isnt when its all speculation at best. Again Thanos used it and he has one of the greatest minds in the marvel u so you really think its a piece of crap and you call me deluded? 😆

You keep putting words in my mouth. You really should actually read my posts instead. Never did I say the orb was a piece of crap. All I am questioning is how powerful it actually is. It may be strong enough to hurt Tyrant on it's own or it may not be. The point is we don't know, so it's stupid to claim the orb would have done anything to Odin just because it hurt Tyrant.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Again all you are doing is speculating. As prove Omega was the only clone who was more powerful than the real Thanos. If you want to prove a certain clone is more powerful do it but please quit with all your speculation.

Again, read my posts. I never said anything about Omega not beinng more powerful than Thanos. Was it proven that Omega was twice as powerful as Galactus? Proven, not stated!

Originally posted by quanchi112
We have seen Thanos make a more powerful version of Galactus but we havent seen him confirm there was a more powerful version of himself. Why on earth would he create a more powerful version of himself anyways. The only more powerful version of Thanos was created by Magus as stated on panel during the Infinity War. Go by what we know and quit speculating.

Was it ever proven Omega was twice as powerful as Galactus? Why would he create a more powerful version of himself, you say. He was willing to create Omega who dwarfed his own power. Why did he do that?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Odin had concentrated blasts on Thanos while Tyrant had less and didnt concentrated any blasts which obviously does more damage than just a quick blast would do.

Odin was also knocking Thanos back just as easily as Tyrant was before he pulled out Gungnir.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Its Tyrants powerset and was explained in this story. Those are his powers. Quit whining about it already.

Like I said, Black Panther putting SS in an armbar he can't get out of is canon, too. Doesn't mean it's not PIS.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Yes you are whining its canon and it explained his powerset yet you cant seem to understand that. Do you think his powerset is pis?

His normal powerset, no. The abilities that were added specifically for this fight so he would absorb Galactus' "biospheric energy", yes.

Originally posted by quanchi112
A weaker version of Thanos took over asgard practically and took Odin completely out of the equation. I am not speculating as I have proof to back me up. This ws just an experiment of Thanos' and it almost worked. 😂

Again the clone took him out. Explaining that he couldnt do this in the same manner is irrelevant. He did it in this manner because this way was available to him.

Thanos has takeon over the universe while asgard is small potatoes. He sent an high end Thanos clone as an experiment to take over asgard and that nearly worked. The real Thanos woul ddecimate asgard if he wanted to. A clone did and this clone was only an experiment. Do you realize how many clones he could create and send over to asgard?

Odin couldnt even defeat Thanos and Thanos could have teleported away. First thing you have to prove is that Odin can even beat him before he can easily track him down and kill him. I mean come on and use something to back up your petty claims.

Again it was only an experiment. The real Thanos doesnt want asgard but if he did his past history says it would be a cakewalk. The Thanos clone did fail but thanks to Thor because Odin was on the sidelines.

I fail to see how any of this has anything to do with proving Tyrant is superior to Odin in any way.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
You keep putting words in my mouth. You really should actually read my posts instead. Never did I say the orb was a piece of crap. All I am questioning is how powerful it actually is. It may be strong enough to hurt Tyrant on it's own or it may not be. The point is we don't know, so it's stupid to claim the orb would have done anything to Odin just because it hurt Tyrant.

Again, read my posts. I never said anything about Omega not beinng more powerful than Thanos. Was it proven that Omega was twice as powerful as Galactus? Proven, not stated!

Was it ever proven Omega was twice as powerful as Galactus? Why would he create a more powerful version of himself, you say. He was willing to create Omega who dwarfed his own power. Why did he do that?

Odin was also knocking Thanos back just as easily as Tyrant was before he pulled out Gungnir.

Like I said, Black Panther putting SS in an armbar he can't get out of is canon, too. Doesn't mean it's not PIS.

His normal powerset, no. The abilities that were added specifically for this fight so he would absorb Galactus' "biospheric energy", yes.

Thanos created his clones and his statements concerning their power levels has never been off. He knew how to defeat Omega and what had to be done.

It was stated by his creator Thanos. So I think Thanos knows if he created Omega himself. He created a more powerful version of Galactus using his dna. He never created a more powerful version of himself. If so send me the scan otherwise you are speculating again. I deal with facts not speculation after speculation.

Thanos took Odin first blast like it was nothing. He never just stood there and took a Tyrant blast like it was nothing. See the difference.

Black Panther doing what he did to SS is completely different than what we are talking about here.

Thats his normal powerset. When were Tyrants powers explained in a comic prior to this issue?

Originally posted by quanchi112
Then drop questioning how powerful the orb was.
Tyrant imo is more powerful than Odin so I do think it would hurt him more than Tyrant.

That's the key. IN YOUR OPINION, so stop parading around like it's a fact.

I have no problem admitting that Tyrant may indeed be more powerful than Odin, because we don't know for sure. I don't believe he is, but I'm open to the possibility. You act like the idea of Odin being more powerful is absurd without any solid proof whatsoever.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos created his clones and his statements concerning their power levels has never been off. He knew how to defeat Omega and what had to be done.

So if he never stated how powerful they were, why do you insist on claiming they were all less powerful than him?

Originally posted by quanchi112
It was stated by his creator Thanos. So I think Thanos knows if he created Omega himself. He created a more powerful version of Galactus using his dna. He never created a more powerful version of himself. If so send me the scan otherwise you are speculating again. I deal with facts not speculation after speculation.

You still haven't answered how he could create a more powerful version of Galactus if according to you he can't create a more powerful version of himself.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos took Odin first blast like it was nothing. He never just stood there and took a Tyrant blast like it was nothing. See the difference.

And Thanos wasn't blown back nearly as far as he was by Tyrant as he was against Odin. Nor was he able to stand right up after taking Odin's attacks as he was against Tyrant.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Black Panther doing what he did to SS is completely different than what we are talking about here.

Not really. At least in this case a new power wasn't invented specifically for Black Panther to use against SS.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Thats his normal powerset. When were Tyrants powers explained in a comic prior to this issue?

Tyrant never had the ability before this story. If he did, he would have used it a long time ago.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
I fail to see how any of this has anything to do with proving Tyrant is superior to Odin in any way.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
That's the key. IN YOUR OPINION, so stop parading around like it's a fact.

I have no problem admitting that Tyrant may indeed be more powerful than Odin, because we don't know for sure. I don't believe he is, but I'm open to the possibility. You act like the idea of Odin being more powerful is absurd without any solid proof whatsoever.

So if he never stated how powerful they were, why do you insist on claiming they were all less powerful than him?

You still haven't answered how he could create a more powerful version of Galactus if according to you he can't create a more powerful version of himself.

And Thanos wasn't blown back nearly as far as he was by Tyrant as he was against Odin. Nor was he able to stand right up after taking Odin's attacks as he was against Tyrant.

Not really. At least in this case a new power wasn't invented specifically for Black Panther to use against SS.

Tyrant never had the ability before this story. If he did, he would have used it a long time ago.

The omega clone was stated as more powerful than Galactus while all other clones werent stated to be more powerful than the real Thanos.

If you think one clone was more powerful,which one? Otherwise concede because their feats dont stack up against the real Thanos'.

Odin hit Thanos more times and blasted him longer. Quit ignoring this time and time again.

yes Black Panther beating the Surfer was bad writing.

Tyrant didnt just have this ability. His powers were never fully explained and when they were you want to cry pis which is hysterical to me. Its his powerset and isnt pis by any means.

Originally posted by quanchi112
We have been over it and then some. A Thanos clone took out Odin easily while the real Thanos couldnt take out Tyrant easily.

COMPLETELY different objectives, and you know it. The clone's objective was to take over Asgard. He failed. Thanos' objective was to confront and withstand Tyrant. He succeeded. Don't act like they are the same thing. Thanos never once mentioned actually trying to defeat Tyrant.

Originally posted by quanchi112
To me the idea that Odin is more powerful is absurd.

Yes, I know it is, because you are a Tyrant fanboy. You have not one solid shred of evidence to support that claim.

Originally posted by quanchi112
The omega clone was stated as more powerful than Galactus while all other clones werent stated to be more powerful than the real Thanos.

They weren't stated, but unless Thanos actually confronted them, which he did to several, then there's no way to find out for sure if they were all weaker, stronger, or the same power level as Thanos.

And you still have yet to answer my question as to how it's possible for Omega to be twice as powerful as Galactus using Galactus' DNA if Thanos, according to you, can't make a clone as powerful as himself using his own DNA.

Originally posted by quanchi112
If you think one clone was more powerful,which one? Otherwise concede because their feats dont stack up against the real Thanos'.

I didn't say any of them were more powerful. I just said it's POSSIBLE that the clone that went to Asgard and the clone from the Celestial Quest could have been at or near Thanos' level.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Odin hit Thanos more times and blasted him longer. Quit ignoring this time and time again.

Why even bring this up if you still think Tyrant did more damage to Thanos than Odin did?

Originally posted by quanchi112
yes Black Panther beating the Surfer was bad writing.

He didn't beat him. He just held him in place.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Tyrant didnt just have this ability. His powers were never fully explained and when they were you want to cry pis which is hysterical to me. Its his powerset and isnt pis by any means.

If he had the power beforehand, then it makes absolutely no sense that he wouldn't have used it beforehand both during their first battle or during their standoff.

Originally posted by celestialdemon
COMPLETELY different objectives, and you know it. The clone's objective was to take over Asgard. He failed. Thanos' objective was to confront and withstand Tyrant. He succeeded. Don't act like they are the same thing. Thanos never once mentioned actually trying to defeat Tyrant.

You think Thanos wouldnt have defeated Tyrant if he thought he could have? Are you serious?