Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Lord of Murder.. please don't start down this road again... You have NOTHING more than your speculation.. Guess what ON PANEL NARRATION is EXPONENTIONALLY more valid than your speculation. Odin said he wanted to kill Thanos.. Period... Your speculation about a common theme in many genres INCLUDING comics doesn't change that. Ya know.. that theme where somebody knocks over another and then goes on to boast and add dialogue to the fight scene... This is a common theme and we then don't say we know FOR SURE he could've killed him. There is NO for sure because it wasn't executed. Futhermore, a reason why he didn't attack further was because Thanos was knocked backwards and sent flying through stuff.. Odin was surprised he was alive.. thus why he didn't continue to attack. It matters not though if that was the reason... what we do know is on panel statements are greater than your speculation. What we also know is that we don't know for sure Odin could've killed him even if he pressed his advantage because fights change course all the time... If I get knockdown and hurt in a fight.. I will take my time to get my bearing and senses if I can.. if he keeps coming don't have that time and get up right away.. Very simple logic.. Don't start your blunder routine again cause you were doing so well
Dude....look no further than the common sense route; you dont let someone you are trying to kill get up.
Its simple.
Dude, any position works to rise forcefield, stop pretending you're stupid, I know you're not 😈
So stop with the fantasies please.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Thanos was in a position to erect a shield at any time he wanted and Odin was unable to do so and I feel Thanos would havegrabbed gungir from him at that point.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
So you admit there is NO proof that Odin could've killed thanos FOR SURE correct? You have to concede that much. Even if you believe he could've.... there is no proof it would've happened for sure.
Do you believe Thanos could have survived being beheaded at that point in time?
I dont...yeah, its possible (this being comics and all) at he could have survived that somehow, but I honestly dont think he could have.
It's a lot of people underestimating Thanos's abilities. Can't say for certain Odin would have just walked up and stabbed Thanos. He already proved he could walk through staff concentrated energy and grab it.
For all we know Thanos could've tried him with another force block just to buy time to get back on his feet.
Too many options available.
Originally posted by Sundipped
It's a lot of people underestimating Thanos's abilities. Can't say for certain Odin would have just walked up and stabbed Thanos. He already proved he could walk through staff concentrated energy and grab it.For all we know Thanos could've tried him with another force block just to buy time to get back on his feet.
Too many options available.
If it didnt take 7 panels for him to simply stand fully you'd have a point...
You're not understanding a few things... so answer these questions...
1. You concede that on panel evidence is greater and carries more weight than your speculation correct? i.e. Odin saying he wanted to kill Thanos means more than you dissecting a scene and coming to your own conclusion that he didn't.
2. If you're in a fight... and you're given a chance to come to your senses... you take it and take your time.... Thanos was given such an opportunity so he took it... however you admit there is NO proof he couldn't have risen sooner or simply teleported out of the way if Odin started to approach... If you're given the time you take it... if you're not you get up quicker.. just like in real life. So your whole point about his neck being vulnerable is nonsense... Odin wasn't proceeding forward.. thus thanos had nothing to fear.. If Thanos did move forward... Thanos could simply teleport out of the way correct? Or do you have proof he had no sense and couldn't react at all.. if so please post it
3. Lastly, Odin might not have done so because he already thought Thanos was dead as he was buried uder crap correct? That is possible right?
Or he could've died in the spot because a rabid beaver eats his cosmic energy.
As far as we saw Odin had the upper hand and nothing suggests he would've lost that advantage. Of course, maybe Thanos would've lasted much longer, but in the long run he loses and later on he's destroyed. Everything is so transparent that I feel people are playing pretend-debating in order to get on Lord of Murder's nerves!
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You're not understanding a few things... so answer these questions...1. You concede that on panel evidence is greater and carries more weight than your speculation correct? i.e. Odin saying he wanted to kill Thanos means more than you dissecting a scene and coming to your own conclusion that he didn't.
2. If you're in a fight... and you're given a chance to come to your senses... you take it and take your time.... Thanos was given such an opportunity so he took it... however you admit there is NO proof he couldn't have risen sooner or simply teleported out of the way if Odin started to approach... If you're given the time you take it... if you're not you get up quicker.. just like in real life. So your whole point about his neck being vulnerable is nonsense... Odin wasn't proceeding forward.. thus thanos had nothing to fear.. If Thanos did move forward... Thanos could simply teleport out of the way correct? Or do you have proof he had no sense and couldn't react at all.. if so please post it
3. Lastly, Odin might not have done so because he already thought Thanos was dead as he was buried uder crap correct? That is possible right?
1) That on panel statement (which I believe is hyperbole) is contradicted by the fact that Odin had Thanos in a position where he could have killed him...the fact that Odin took no action against Thanos during that time is proof enough for me that Odin did not want Thanos dead.
Even if the attack wouldnt have killed Thanos, I would have been convinced that Odin wanted him dead if he had taken action against Thanos when he had him down...
2) It took Thanos 7 panels to simply stagger to his feet; IMHO, that means Thanos was helpless and vulnerable against a foe of Odins caliber...
I guess we agree to disagree here...
3) Odin never thought Thanos dead; he was talking to him (and Thanos responded) after the big ball of energy that brought Thanos to his knees....
I love the fact that Odin who apparently was bloodlusted and wanted to destroy Thanos above anything else asked him politely to surrender.
I think we were meant to believe Odin wanted to destroy Thanos in combat, not helpless and bent, defeated after taking a big pounding. Striking a fallen man is not honorable.
Those are my two cents 🙂
Originally posted by Bentley
I love the fact that Odin who apparently was bloodlusted and wanted to destroy Thanos above anything else asked him politely to surrender.I think we were meant to believe Odin wanted to destroy Thanos in combat, not helpless and bent, defeated after taking a big pounding. Striking a fallen man is not honorable.
Those are my two cents 🙂
😆 No kidding. Yet an absolutely enraged Tyrant apparently was just playing around.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiBecause the fight with Odin didn't near its conclusion. It was interrupted. Once again, absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence.
Well in fact there is something that distinguishes the fight... In both fights... Thanos was told his defeat was assured by both Odin and Tyrant. Yet, ONLY in the case of Tyrant did thanos agree he would be killed. With Odin, he not only never conceded he would be defeated during the numerous exchanges and claims Odin made about his defeat. Not once did he agree, and not only did he not agree, he felt like he was going to win in the end. Tyrant said he was going to kill him once.. Thanos agreeed he would. Odin said something to that effect numerous times as well as asking him to yield.. in every instance he disagreed or didn't back down. That just further proves my point.
Originally posted by KuRuPT ThanosiGalactus pretty much hasn't backed down from anybody. Not Abraxas, not THOTU Thanos, not Secret Wars Beyonder, not Chaos King, yet he mentioned some trepidation when dealing with Tyrant of all people. So what? Him not expressing trepidation when facing Abraxas, THOTU Thanos, Beyonder or Chaos King somehow means Tyrant was superior to them? No. Unless you're retarded. That's why absence of evidence (in our issue, admissions of clear superiority by Thanos to Odin) means sh1t. Get it through your head. Try focusing on the evidence we do have: Tyrant got toppled by Thanos, Odin didn't. Odin one-shotted Surfer and Drax, Tyrant didn't one-shot Surfer, Gladiator, etc.
Can you name these stronger foes he's faced as I'm curious who you're referring to... Agamotto.. in betweener.. ego... T&A.. who are you referring to. What we do know, is that he's faced very powerful foes and I can't recal him ever backing down from them EVEN when hungry. Not only does he not back down from them.. he doesn't feed nor prep to fight them. Even Odin, he didn't seem the least bit concerned about Odin or him being a threat. You trying to deny this has any significance or bearing on anything is amusing. Of course it does. If you have someone who has a history of not being fearful of foes nor feeding before facing a foe.. when he does do so... it certainly is a red flag like hey... he must feel threatened by him. Which of course makes sense, cause ya know, he was made in Galactus image. Ya know, cause the first time they might it was a long long battle that clearly Galactus had to work for. So when Tyrant has said he's gotten enough power back and at the HEIGHT of his powers... your damn right Galactus would know he's in for a fight and needed to feed and prepare for this battle.
And y'know what? You really want to focus on character statements? Take this statement from a Thanosi's own mouth about how that fight turned out: