Spider-man VS the Rhino

Originally posted by DigiMark007
I can dig that issue that you ripped the scan out of if you want...I'm guessing Spidey wins eventually.

Man, OF COURSE Spidey wins in the end. Not only comic books are all about good guys always winning in the end, but in the Comics Code Authority era it was MANDATORY as well.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
Once again, though, you're engaging in confirmation bias and showing only panels that support your cause.

I don't quite understand your point here, should I start showing panels that support yours instead? I'm not used to debate like that, I thought that providing evidence to support my oppinions was enough 😄

Originally posted by DigiMark007
But when you can run circles around a character, it changes the element. And make no mistake, Spidey can and has done it multiple times.

Just like Rhino has proved that he can hit Spidey multiple times as well. Not to mention that just the expansive wave produced by Rhino stomping on the floor could probably toss Spidey all the way to New Jersey, so he wouldn't even have to hit him to win this fight.

Originally posted by DigiMark007
But he'd clearly lose the majority, because that's what always happens.

Big deal when all their fights take place in comic books named 'The Amazing/Spectacular Spider-man' instead of 'The Rampaging Rhino' or something along those lines.

So you concede that Spider-Man usually wins, and your defense is that he's in his own title, rather than Rhino's? Doesn't change the events.

Also, stomp him to New Jersey? Embellishment. To an absurd degree, in this case.

Damn bottom of page.

Originally posted by ScarletSpeed
Spidey...

Spidey has bested the Rhino many times,

he is simply too smart and fast for Rhino 😂

Originally posted by Premutos
Even if it makes no sense in the 1st place? Then Batman must be top-tier at DC and Squirrel Girl at Marvel, right?

Oh, and Rhino has fought Hulk numerous times (and beaten him at least twice), how come Rhino is supposed to be outta Hulk's league then?

I know people around here don't like it much, but I'm gonna point this out once again:

Rhino ---> Class 85
Spider-man ---> Class 25

spidey is class 10 again ! lol marvel screwed up his upgraded powers 😄 ... 🙁

and spidey should win , if cap gut punch ko hulk why cant spidey do the same to rhino

BTW I wonder how many times Spidey has punked classic Hulk in the last 40+ years. Cause, y'know, classic Hulk when not enraged was in the same strenght range than Rhino (probably weaker) but w/o superspeed and (just like Rhino) wasn't exactly a tactical genius either.

I'm sure that if this thread was Spidey vs classic Hulk/Colossus/Thing the general consensus would be very different, but since Rhino apparently deserves no respect...

Originally posted by Premutos
BTW I wonder how many times Spidey has punked classic Hulk in the last 40+ years. Cause, y'know, classic Hulk when not enraged was in the same strenght range than Rhino (probably weaker) but w/o superspeed and (just like Rhino) wasn't exactly a tactical genius either.

I'm sure that if this thread was Spidey vs classic Hulk/Colossus/Thing the general consensus would be very different, but since Rhino apparently deserves no respect...

actually hulk calm starts out as class 90 and increases strength whereas rhino is class 80 ,period

Originally posted by DigiMark007
So you concede that Spider-Man usually wins, and your defense is that he's in his own title, rather than Rhino's? Doesn't change the events.

Actually, that's pretty much the only reason why Spidey happens to win fights against some guys from his Rogues Gallery he has no bussiness fighting in the 1st place. And not that I have anything against Spidey but yes, he does have a Jobber Aura indeed. Otherwise how do you explain that Electro, being able to do this all the time and therefore being capable of winning any fight against Spidey at the speed of thought

Just keeps FORGETTING that he can do such a thing? For the same reason Darkseid forgets all about the Omega Effect when fighting Batman perhaps?

Thing is, Spidey's Jobber Aura is not as massive as other big name's and a lot of times he ends up getting punked by weaker opponents, so one thing compensates the other.

Originally posted by ankur29
actually hulk calm starts out as class 90 and increases strength whereas rhino is class 80 ,period

I may be wrong on this, but AFAIK classic Hulk started out as Class 70.

Originally posted by h1a8
Rule #1
Never say it isn't true if you truly don't know.
For it would be lying. (You are saying you know when you don't).

Nope, it's only lying if you know what you're saying is false.

Originally posted by h1a8
He has lifted or supported multistory buildings thrice.

He has braced support beams while webbing holds stuff together a couple of times, he's never, ever, lifted a building.

Originally posted by h1a8
He has lifted a tank.

Don't know about this, when did this happen?

Originally posted by h1a8
He alone has lifted a huge stone plug that him and she-hulk struggled lifting before.

That was explained during the story ... did you even read it?

Originally posted by h1a8
Caught a 10ton helicopter from a 200-300ft fall in about a 1.5ft or less stopping distance (this feat is way over 100 tons).

Was the weight of the helicopter ever stated? or the speed at which it was falling? or the actual distance it fell? (or are you just guessing?)

Originally posted by h1a8
Lifted a huge water tower that not only weighs a lot but has thousands of gallons of water in it.

When? where?

Originally posted by h1a8
Easily catches a car thrown by Hulk (has to match the strength of the throw to catch it).

When? where?

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Spider-Man has no class 100 feats.

Originally posted by Premutos
how do you explain that Electro, being able to do this all the time and therefore being capable of winning any fight against Spidey at the speed of thought

Just keeps FORGETTING that he can do such a thing? For the same reason Darkseid forgets all about the Omega Effect when fighting Batman perhaps?

Did you not read this story either? This happened during a one time power up of Electro. Electro risked dying by absorbing a stupid amount of electrical energy, I doubt he plans on doing that every time he leaves the house.

In fact that story ended with Electro exploding due to him trying to contain too much energy.

Originally posted by Scoobless
Did you not read this story either? This happened during a one time power up of Electro. Electro risked dying by absorbing a stupid amount of electrical energy, I doubt he plans on doing that every time he leaves the house.

Nope, it's you who didn't read the story. He only had to do it ONCE and the power-up was supposed to be permanent.

Originally posted by Scoobless

In fact that story ended with Electro exploding due to him trying to contain too much energy.

Didn't happen like that either, he exploded cause he dropped himself into the Hudson river. Go read the stroy arc, it happened in ASM #422-425.

Originally posted by Premutos
I may be wrong on this, but AFAIK classic Hulk started out as Class 70.

Grey Hulk (the weakest incarnation) starts out at 70-75 tons. Savage starts at 90tons. the thing is, its not PIS for Rhino to feel even Classic 10ton Spidey's punches as Rhino is about 8 x stronger, and Spiderman is shown to be hurt by punches from Daredevil and Captain America who Spidey is over 20 times stronger than. So if SM goes ultimate Spider on Rhino, he will be hitting him with 10 ton punches/kicks repeatedly and get worn down. If Rhino gets his hands on Spidey, though, its game over for Mr.Parker
I give it 7/10 to Spiderman

Originally posted by Premutos
Nope, it's you who didn't read the story. He only had to do it ONCE and the power-up was supposed to be permanent.

Maybe it was "supposed to be" permanent, but it didn't turn out that way, after he exploded his next appearance was back to regular levels.

Originally posted by Premutos
Didn't happen like that either, he exploded cause he dropped himself into the Hudson river. Go read the stroy arc, it happened in ASM #422-425.

He was about to explode either way, the river had nothing to do with it.

Originally posted by BUSTER1
So if SM goes ultimate Spider on Rhino, he will be hitting him with 10 ton punches/kicks repeatedly and get worn down.

Dunno, here he doesn't seem to be KO-ing Rhino at all:

Originally posted by Scoobless
Maybe it was "supposed to be" permanent, but it didn't turn out that way, after he exploded his next appearance was back to regular levels.

Yeah, but only cause the next writer probably didn't know about the power-up. Where has it been stablished that he's back to regular levels? I haven't read any issue that says that.

Originally posted by Scoobless

He was about to explode either way, the river had nothing to do with it.

Yep, cause he overloaded himself voluntarily to produce some bigass explosion, that's right.

Kind of a weird post. The forums is usually used to pit people who havent fought a thousand times against each other. Rhino is a regular in Spidey's rogue gallery. This is like a "Who'd win, Wolverine or Sabretooth?" post. Thats said, Rhino is just too 1 dimensional.

Originally posted by Premutos
Dunno, here he doesn't seem to be KO-ing Rhino at all:

Well check these scans then Premutos.

Originally posted by BUSTER1
Well check these scans then Premutos.

unfortunately I can't get the scans to work-but they're from the
'Brand New Spiderman Respect Thread' and show Spidey beating Rhino unconscious, even though he is in a weakened state

Originally posted by ankur29
actually hulk calm starts out as class 90 and increases strength whereas rhino is class 80 ,period

Originally posted by Premutos
I may be wrong on this, but AFAIK classic Hulk started out as Class 70.

In recent times (Planet Sakar) it was stated that the Huk started out more powerful than ever. In an issue of the Fantastic 4, Bruce is seen grey once again after he is upgraded by having yet another gamma bomb blew up in his face.

He goes to Sakar and soaks up the energy of another nuke which kills his wife Caiera. Rides back to earth on top of the stone ship soaking up yet more rads from space. Technically he should be far above 90 tons.

Oh and Spider-Man is simply too fast for the lumbering brute named Rhino, the only way I see Rhino ever winning is through a freak environmental attack.

Spidey 8/10

I thought Spider-man was class 10?